MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Yes Im Biop]

Yeah. the Rugger .22/10 with a 25 round Bannana clip has shit for feeding (I think its the clip) It tries to fdouble feed if the clip is ever touched when its fireing.

These surprisingly have relatively few issues in comparison to other magazines I've used.

Those are the 10 round Box's right? The 25 ones i talk are Banana's and usually plastic. They don't melt (SO teh box says) But they feed for shit.

[Nua Corda]

The rotary mags are pretty good, though the only issues I've ever had with 25 rounders is that they're a major pain in the ass to load.


This is what he's talking about

[San-Silvacian]

I changed my flag and now I can't find any of my posts :>

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

The rotary mags are pretty good, though the only issues I've ever had with 25 rounders is that they're a major pain in the ass to load.

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I've used the same thing (in aluminum form). Definitely a piece of shit.

[Yes Im Biop]

The rotary mags are pretty good, though the only issues I've ever had with 25 rounders is that they're a major pain in the ass to load.

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This is what he's talking about

Thank you. Very big piece o shit. No wonder we got it free.

[Nua Corda]

The rotary mags are pretty good, though the only issues I've ever had with 25 rounders is that they're a major pain in the ass to load.

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This is what he's talking about

I've used the same thing (in aluminum form). Definitely a piece of shit.

Ive only ever had 1 jam (a stovepipe, which is not a function of the magazine) with those things, but maybe I got lucky...

[Wolohanistan]

I've used the same thing (in aluminum form). Definitely a piece of shit.

Ive only ever had 1 jam (a stovepipe, which is not a function of the magazine) with those things, but maybe I got lucky...

Ruger make their own 25 rounders now.
Apparently they're quite good.

[Crookfur]

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(click for bettah resolution)
KAE SYSTEMS 'MSWS' - Modern Sniper Weapon System

Designation: Sniper Weapons System
Weight - 6.9 kg
Length - 1200 mm
Cyclic RoF - Semi-Automatic
Fire Types - Semi-Automatic
Method of Feed - 5 or 10 round detachable box magazine
Maximum Recommended Combat Range - 1,500m
Barrel Length - 686 mm
Calibre - .338 Lapua Magnum

Thoughts on design and stats?

What kind of action are you using with this?

Also it doesn't really feel like a .338: the magazine feels a little small and the grip/controls feel a bit big.

its ncie but it does feel out of scale. Have you tried putting it side by side with the stock 99 bravo?

[Crookfur]

If your don't armor the sides, you get parried and a bayonet through your ribs/kidneys.

That is sufficient to stop pistol/rifle rounds and bayonets at close quarters.



http://fort.ru/eng/catalog/7/34

I'm about ~1950 in terms of technology.

stuff like that existed in the 1950s the USMC has "The Armor, Body, Fragmentation Protective, Lower Torso, M1953" aka Flak Diapers 1.36kg of layered nylon formed into a pair of much hated shorts. Designed to be worn with the USMC M52 protective jacket which used layered nylon and small aluminium plates.

Alternatives porpular at the time were the Armor, Crotch, T64 which covered the croth with small steel "scales" and for thsoe with the right connectiosn or awesome scrouging capabilities stuff like the flyers aprons and some very rare groudn troop aprons (basiclaly a flap of armour that attaches to at the belt to cover the lower torso).

Typically armour that focuses on protecting the groin and in particular the femoral artery has been preffered and has generally proven more useful than stuff designed to protect the outer leg.




Edit: So i don;t end up with the massive quad post spree:

A discussion on ww1 body armour and i missed, I am now sad.

Anyway for ww1 armour the chemico body sheild was where it was at: a mere 6-7lbs gives you protection from .45 cal psitols and at least 12 vigoruous bayonet thrusts from a Private of the Dragoon Gaurds!

There was also the dayfield body shield (4 steel plates in a canvas vest) and for the more fashion orientated officer the Wilkinson Jacket (basically a servcie jacket with built in ballsitic plates).

[Noders]

30-40 years from now or more figuratively speaking (this is very rough so any correction are most welcome)
A. Case-less weapons only
B. Mostly Case-less with heavy weapons still using cased ammo
C. Mostly Cased weapons with spec units and such heavily case-less
D. your opinion

[San-Silvacian]

Case-less ammunition for small arms is still problematic and in 30-40 years I don't see them doing much more than just coming out with a solid, cheap way to produce, field, and fire them. And make them allot more reliable like the cartridge.

Even after that the next 40-50 years would still be dominated by the cartridge because there is just so many of them and they would still be cheaper to field and produce than case-less.

So, I'd say C but with larger nations starting to issue case-less weapons to higher echelon forces but not special forces due to the fact your normally issue them the best, not the newest.

[Ea90]

I'd say that entirely caseless is completely plausible in PMT.

[Noders]

I'd say that entirely caseless is completely plausible in PMT.

could you elaborate on the reason you think so please?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Germans experimented with caseless in WWII. Just say your nation historically pursued this line of thought and did it better.

[Noders]

Germans experimented with caseless in WWII. Just say your nation historically pursued this line of thought and did it better.

Er Nirv I meant real life

[Aqizithiuda]

30-40 years from now or more figuratively speaking (this is very rough so any correction are most welcome)
A. Case-less weapons only
B. Mostly Case-less with heavy weapons still using cased ammo
C. Mostly Cased weapons with spec units and such heavily case-less
D. your opinion

I think we'll be still using cased ammunition, although whether it's polymer CTA or still brass/steel/aluminium cased I don't know. Why? Because, despite having a massive advantage over other teams working with caseless ammunition, the LSAT team couldn't reduce the cost, toxicity or the fragility of CLA down to a point where it became viable. I'd suggest that we'll see the first multi national trial of polymer CTA in 10–20 years, with it coming into use within 20-30 years. We definitely won't see any major progress until five years or so after the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

[Ea90]

Er Nirv I meant real life

Oh. In that case I'm not really sure; I thought you meant for your NS nation.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Germans experimented with caseless in WWII. Just say your nation historically pursued this line of thought and did it better.

Er Nirv I meant real life

Oh. I don't see caseless making a comeback any time soon. Unless we run into a similar resource problem. Maybe some field trials here and there, but not general issue.

[Indeos]

Germans experimented with caseless in WWII. Just say your nation historically pursued this line of thought and did it better.

Er Nirv I meant real life

Then it's not for this thread. Just pretend you're going to use it for your nation to keep it on-topic.

[Noders]

Er Nirv I meant real life

Then it's not for this thread. Just pretend you're going to use it for your nation to keep it on-topic.

oh ok Indeos thanks

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Case-less ammunition for small arms is still problematic and in 30-40 years I don't see them doing much more than just coming out with a solid, cheap way to produce, field, and fire them. And make them allot more reliable like the cartridge.

Even after that the next 40-50 years would still be dominated by the cartridge because there is just so many of them and they would still be cheaper to field and produce than case-less.

So, I'd say C but with larger nations starting to issue case-less weapons to higher echelon forces but not special forces due to the fact your normally issue them the best, not the newest.

I think it boils down to this.
Are you willing to have your troops mass-issued with an ammunition that is, on paper, less effective in almost all counts ballistically to an academic degree and reap the benefits of hilariously low round weight and size (and thus large carry amount for given weight), or go with tried and true and simple?

[Galla-]

Case-less ammunition for small arms is still problematic and in 30-40 years I don't see them doing much more than just coming out with a solid, cheap way to produce, field, and fire them. And make them allot more reliable like the cartridge.

Even after that the next 40-50 years would still be dominated by the cartridge because there is just so many of them and they would still be cheaper to field and produce than case-less.

So, I'd say C but with larger nations starting to issue case-less weapons to higher echelon forces but not special forces due to the fact your normally issue them the best, not the newest.

Rly? Caseless ammo has been produced commercially for decades now.

[Sevvania]

Faillist is fail.
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Let's come up with a better shortlist of weapons.
I nominate the DSA SA58 FAL OSW, AKMN/AK-103 and AKMSU as firearms, and scratch the Deagle and RPG-7 completely.

Scratch the entire list.

Then burn it.

I nominate Ruger 10/22, Ruger MK III, M1903 Springfield, M1 Garand, Remington 700, M14, and the M1911.


My personal loadout if I got what I wanted would be liek this:

M1903 Springfield Rifle
Ruger MK III
Machete or many kitchen knives

M1 Carbine or similar lightweight semi-auto carbine would be helpful, as would an SKS with spike bayonet, so as to prevent becoming lodged in the zombie brainpan.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Scratch the entire list.

Then burn it.

I nominate Ruger 10/22, Ruger MK III, M1903 Springfield, M1 Garand, Remington 700, M14, and the M1911.


My personal loadout if I got what I wanted would be liek this:

M1903 Springfield Rifle
Ruger MK III
Machete or many kitchen knives

M1 Carbine or similar lightweight semi-auto carbine would be helpful, as would an SKS with spike bayonet, so as to prevent becoming lodged in the zombie brainpan.

M1 would be a good choice. I'd probably take the folding stock version. Even has dat pistol grip.

[Purpelia]

I have read somewhere that the Italians had a machine gun in WW2 that was magazine fed and that returned spent casings into the magazine. How is that supposed to work? And does anyone have any idea what I am talking about?