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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:12 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Why the hell does everyone love the Deagle so much? It looks cool, yeah, but it's so impractical/heavy/trigger-pull-heavy/light on ammo. There's a reason that, to my knowledge, no actual military uses the thing.


Video games make it out to be the best damn pistol thats ever been around.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:14 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Why the hell does everyone love the Deagle so much? It looks cool, yeah, but it's so impractical/heavy/trigger-pull-heavy/light on ammo. There's a reason that, to my knowledge, no actual military uses the thing.


Video games make it out to be the best damn pistol thats ever been around.

I think it's more the movies. The Deagle in MW is total crap, so I don't know how much inventory that moved for it, overall. But yeah, it somehow got the media on its side.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:36 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Video games make it out to be the best damn pistol thats ever been around.

I think it's more the movies. The Deagle in MW is total crap, so I don't know how much inventory that moved for it, overall. But yeah, it somehow got the media on its side.


Movies, games like Counter-Strike, all that crap.
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:40 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I think it's more the movies. The Deagle in MW is total crap, so I don't know how much inventory that moved for it, overall. But yeah, it somehow got the media on its side.


Movies, games like Counter-Strike, all that crap.


Might be because of all the ''buff guy'' movies (Ahnold, Mickey Rourke, Dolph Lundgren). Though I can't blame them..

Honestly, Ahnold just wouldn't work with a damn PPK. Or a Beretta 92FS.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:44 pm

A Colt M1911 fits every mans hand.

Badassery and usability wrapped up together in a 7 + 1 package. Or 8 + 1 if you got MEU.
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:55 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:A Colt M1911 fits every mans hand.

Badassery and usability wrapped up together in a 7 + 1 package. Or 8 + 1 if you got MEU.


No, you don't get it.

This is like.. a size thing more than manliness, I'd say.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:59 pm

Fischermann wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:A Colt M1911 fits every mans hand.

Badassery and usability wrapped up together in a 7 + 1 package. Or 8 + 1 if you got MEU.


No, you don't get it.

This is like.. a size thing more than manliness, I'd say.

Ah, so it's compensation. Makes sense to me! :p
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:43 am

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KAE SYSTEMS 'MSWS' - Modern Sniper Weapon System


Designation: Sniper Weapons System
Weight - 6.9 kg
Length - 1200 mm
Cyclic RoF - Semi-Automatic
Fire Types - Semi-Automatic
Method of Feed - 5 or 10 round detachable box magazine
Maximum Recommended Combat Range - 1,500m
Barrel Length - 686 mm
Calibre - .338 Lapua Magnum


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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:02 am

Where's the bolt handle?
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:03 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Where's the bolt handle?
It's on the other side, to make it easier to use whilst keeping the finger on the trigger. A compact one, similar to the G36 in that you hold it and turn/fold/pull it out before yanking it back.
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Postby Sevvania » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:08 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Why the hell does everyone love the Deagle so much? It looks cool, yeah, but it's so impractical/heavy/trigger-pull-heavy/light on ammo. There's a reason that, to my knowledge, no actual military uses the thing.


I'd known that this was the case, but it never really sank in until I held one at a gun show. The thing is ridiculous. Awesome, but ridiculous.

San-Silvacian wrote:A Colt M1911 fits every mans hand.

Badassery and usability wrapped up together in a 7 + 1 package. Or 8 + 1 if you got MEU.


^This guy has the right idea.
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Postby Purpelia » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:55 am

San-Silvacian wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I think it's more the movies. The Deagle in MW is total crap, so I don't know how much inventory that moved for it, overall. But yeah, it somehow got the media on its side.


Movies, games like Counter-Strike, all that crap.

Nonsense. If people built their NS army based on CS everyone would be issued a H&K G3 and a Glock.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:13 am

Could you use a Sawed offed Double barrel; shotgun for a sidearm? Or an emergency weapon? Have like a 12 inch barrel and load it with 3/0 Bucck.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:29 am

Pretty damned bulky.
A handgun is lighter, more accurate, longer ranged, faster loading and firing (even as a revolver, assuming speedloading) and carries more ammunition.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:33 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Pretty damned bulky.
A handgun is lighter, more accurate, longer ranged, faster loading and firing (even as a revolver, assuming speedloading) and carries more ammunition.


Emergency weapon then. As in you get surprised and your handgun just wont cut it. Light body armor would still leave the person fucked up from a double blast.
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:34 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Pretty damned bulky.
A handgun is lighter, more accurate, longer ranged, faster loading and firing (even as a revolver, assuming speedloading) and carries more ammunition.


Emergency weapon then. As in you get surprised and your handgun just wont cut it. Light body armor would still leave the person fucked up from a double blast.

Use .45ACP.

Body armour'll stop it, but fire four rounds into their chest and they'd probably be on the floor and stunned from the impacts. Then rush them and end it with a head shot.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:41 am

Mozambique Drill.
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:48 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Mozambique Drill.

Mmm-hmm. But I was thinking of the 'emergency situation' in which I figure going "AAAH DIE BITCH!" with the pistol is more instinctive.
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A-4 MPCR (Multi-Purpose Combat Rifle

Cartridge: NATO 5.56x45mm
RPM: 700
Ammo Cap: 35 Rounds
Range: Accurate range 600 Yards
Fire modes: Three: Safe, Single shot, Fully automatic
In service: USMA, USMMC, USMSOC, and USM civilian SWAT teams


History:

After the Catlands skirmish in 2005, the USM decided that it's aging A-3 PDAR, would not be a viable choice for it's military any longer. Top designers were employed to design and construct the A-4 MPCR. Designed with both accuracy and Urban Combat in mind, the XA-4 was first deployed with USMSOC in 2007, during Operation Wafflestomp. Proving itself very effective, the rifle went into full scale production in 2008. Currently Serving with the USM's Army, Marine Corps, Special Operations Command, and civilian SWAT teams, it shows little signs of weakening any time soon.

SC-10

Cartridge: NATO 5.56x45mm
RPM: 650
Ammo Cap: 20
Range: Accurate Range: 350 Yards
Fire Modes: Three: Safe, Single shot, Three Round Burst
In Service: USMN

History:

The SC-10 was first introduced in 2010, after the SC-8 was retired by the USM Navy. It's design was optimized for CQC engagements, hence the bullpup configuration. Praised for its compact design, and durability under fire, the SC-10 was quickly adopted the the Navy's SEAL teams. The only drawback is it's ammo capacity, however this problem is eliminated by 30 round, extended magazines.

MG-05B

Cartridge: 7.62x39mm
RPM: 790
Ammo Cap: 250
Range: Accurate Range: 250 Yards
Fire modes: Two: Safe, Fully automatic
In service: USMA, USMMC

History:

After years of unauthorized modifications to the A-3 PDAR, the MG-05 was commissioned. The MG-05A model, was ill-received by troops, due to its lack of a hand guard, and several dozen reports of the barrel exploding, due to overheating. The problems were quickly rectified, and the MG-05B model was introduced in late 2007 just before Operation Wafflestomp. The MG-05B proved itself in combat, and quickly shook the disrespect the A model had earned. Another variant, the MG-05B-M, is a mounted machine gun, that is deployed on top of the nation's HMF-109 Main Battle Tank.

LR-2 Sniper RIfle

Cartridge: 7.62x54mm
Ammo Cap: 10 Rounds
Range: Accurate Range: 1000 Yards
Fire Modes: Two: Safe, Single shot
In service: USMSOC

History:

In 2007, during Operation Wafflestomp, USMSOC operatives were tasked with assassinating Ploochland's Inerior Ministry Minister. Due to the lack of a long range rifle, the target escaped unharmed. Outraged, the USMDOD ordered that a dedicated sniper rifle be put into production. The LR-2 is the result. It has high praise from the sniper teams who use it. If it's within 1000 yards, this rifle can kill it.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:15 am

Those don't look at all bad.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:19 am

Don't worry about it.
SABR as a rifle programme name has popped up several times, in a firearms tender I submitted to (and won), and also Mekugi's battle rifle programme.
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Ea90
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Postby Ea90 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:26 am

TBH, I'm not really bothered at all, I just found it quite amusing.

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The United States of Mojoey
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Postby The United States of Mojoey » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:28 am

Ea90 wrote:
The United States of Mojoey wrote:A-4 MPCR (Multi-Purpose Combat Rifle

Hmm...

Ahh damnit....

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Postby The United States of Mojoey » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:29 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Those don't look at all bad.

Thanks. I didn't really try.

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