MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Galla-]

The fuck is a Gavin?

M113 Gavin
Noun:
Definition: An idealized almost magically capable version of the M113 as imagined and perceived by one Mike Sparks
Origin: Mike Sparks

And as for a Flying m133? Sure it could fly. It's called a C-130 Cargo plane.

Seriously thou. Have you ever been to SDnet and seen their approach to these things? As in, analyze the living hell out of them and actually construct something that would resemble a working model only to show how ridiculous it is. (like for example that plasma weapon link someone posted the other day) Well I want to do that to the aerogavin.

SDnet's approach is actually more like this:

Poster A: "I don't think the Star Destroyer/Death Star can do this as well as you say tbf because <insert relevant movie scene>."
Poster B's Response: "You're a fucking retard, did you read the entire 50+ pages of this thread before wading in ass first and spewing your shit all over the place? Goddamn moron in <book> they totally <previous example>. Jesus Christ where the fuck do you faggots come from?"

[Purpelia]

SDnet's approach is actually more like this:

Poster A: "I don't think the Gavin can fly as well as you hope tbf."
Poster B's Response: "You're a fucking retard, did you read the entire 50+ pages of this thread before wading in ass first and spewing your shit all over the place? Goddamn moron."

Nitpicker.

[Galla-]

SDnet's approach is actually more like this:

Poster A: "I don't think the Gavin can fly as well as you hope tbf."
Poster B's Response: "You're a fucking retard, did you read the entire 50+ pages of this thread before wading in ass first and spewing your shit all over the place? Goddamn moron."

Nitpicker.

Revised for accuracy.

I just realised no one talks about the Gavin on SDnet.

[Purpelia]

Still, I really would love to see just how huge the wings need to be to lift a M113. Probably something the size of one of those WW2 era gliders that could carry a jeep inside. Come to think of it, what he describes is basically a powered version of a jeep glider in a sense.

[Yes Im Biop]

The fuck is a Gavin?

M113 Gavin
Noun:
Definition: An idealized almost magically capable version of the M113 as imagined and perceived by one Mike Sparks
Origin: Mike Sparks

And as for a Flying m133? Sure it could fly. It's called a C-130 Cargo plane.

Seriously thou. Have you ever been to SDnet and seen their approach to these things? As in, analyze the living hell out of them and actually construct something that would resemble a working model only to show how ridiculous it is. (like for example that plasma weapon link someone posted the other day) Well I want to do that to the aerogavin.

A made up word by a Whacko.

Out of clay. Aerodynamically impossible. And Sparky's design has it with a single prop and wooden wings. SO ill tell ya what i told him.

Helo's and AA would have a fun day shooting them IF (And they wouldn't) Get into the air.

[Dorlania]

>trying to look for good things on DeviantArt
>is DeviantArt

amirite

*cough*

*coughing*

i never said there wasn't a golden relic like that

[Alimeria II]

Still, I really would love to see just how huge the wings need to be to lift a M113. Probably something the size of one of those WW2 era gliders that could carry a jeep inside. Come to think of it, what he describes is basically a powered version of a jeep glider in a sense.

Or maybe like this

[Purpelia]

A made up word by a Whacko.

Out of clay. Aerodynamically impossible. And Sparky's design has it with a single prop and wooden wings. SO ill tell ya what i told him.

Helo's and AA would have a fun day shooting them IF (And they wouldn't) Get into the air.

You are missing the point. The point is to create something that starts with the same requirements (Take M113 APC, make it fly with a airborne propulsion system that is detachable and reusable and that requires no extra crew) and design something that while sucking in practice actually achieves those design goals. Than compare it with his proposed solution and laugh.

Also, what was the wingspan on the T-60 + wings there?
Edit: Wiki says 18m. So accounting for a ~100 greater weight and similar size of the two I would say that 22-25m should work for our aerogavin. Make that 30-35 just to be sure.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Dual feed AR-15? Check.

[Discordant Schism]

Dual feed AR-15? Check.

You can do anything with an AR-15.

[Bajireyn]

Dual feed AR-15? Check.

You can do anything with an AR-15.

Except making it a bulpup. T_T

[Spreewerke]

modified this Kar98k to make what I think is a better version. top has a scope and both have a 10 round stripper clip
http://i.imgur.com/Dz6DC.png

Holy chin-weld, Batman!

here is the different version
http://i.imgur.com/ZZBL1.png

• Has sights with low-sitting rail between them allowing potential co-witness.
  
  • Uses EOTech on top of receiver.

[San-Silvacian]

You can do anything with an AR-15.

Except making it a bulpup. T_T

And thats a bad thing?

Not everything needs its faggotry bullpup variant.

[Spreewerke]

Except making it a bulpup. T_T

And thats a bad thing?

Not everything needs its faggotry bullpup variant.

Though I agree 110% with the above statement, unfortunately... This abortion slipped past the coat hanger.

[Nua Corda]

Except making it a bulpup. T_T

And thats a bad thing?

Not everything needs its faggotry bullpup variant.

Nope, bullpups must be built from the ground up as such. Can't make a good gun out of bad parts, after all.

[Den Svenska Riket]

modified this Kar98k to make what I think is a better version. top has a scope and both have a 10 round stripper clip
http://i.imgur.com/Dz6DC.png

Holy chin-weld, Batman!

here is the different version
http://i.imgur.com/ZZBL1.png

• Has sights with low-sitting rail between them allowing potential co-witness.
  
  • Uses EOTech on top of receiver.

1. what does that mean?
2. why would I use a EOTech for a holographic sight?

[Spreewerke]

Holy chin-weld, Batman!

• Has sights with low-sitting rail between them allowing potential co-witness.
  
  • Uses EOTech on top of receiver.

1. what does that mean?
2. why would I use a EOTech for a holographic sight?

The cheek area on that Kar98k stock has way too low of a comb. To address the other, you did use an EOTech. That's what I was pointing out.

[Den Svenska Riket]

1. what does that mean?
2. why would I use a EOTech for a holographic sight?

The cheek area on that Kar98k stock has way too low of a comb. To address the other, you did use an EOTech. That's what I was pointing out.

I will see what I can do with that, I am not sure i have the code still
and oohh

[San-Silvacian]

Yeah, EOTech is the name of the company that produces those style of Holographic Sights.

[Yes Im Biop]

A made up word by a Whacko.

Out of clay. Aerodynamically impossible. And Sparky's design has it with a single prop and wooden wings. SO ill tell ya what i told him.

Helo's and AA would have a fun day shooting them IF (And they wouldn't) Get into the air.

You are missing the point. The point is to create something that starts with the same requirements (Take M113 APC, make it fly with a airborne propulsion system that is detachable and reusable and that requires no extra crew) and design something that while sucking in practice actually achieves those design goals. Than compare it with his proposed solution and laugh.

Also, what was the wingspan on the T-60 + wings there?
Edit: Wiki says 18m. So accounting for a ~100 greater weight and similar size of the two I would say that 22-25m should work for our aerogavin. Make that 30-35 just to be sure.

I'm not missing the point. There isn't one. You want to take something made for the ground. And turn it into a slow attack, low altitude target? Use a armored Attack chopper or throw a M113's gun or 2 on a Sea Crane.

[Graditora]

And thats a bad thing?

Not everything needs its faggotry bullpup variant.

Though I agree 110% with the above statement, unfortunately... This abortion slipped past the coat hanger.

...God... this is why bullpups need to be built from the ground up rather then off another weapon

[Skarsingrad]

G36 - Main Assault Rifle (Grunts)-



IMI Desert Eagle - Main Sidearm (All)-


Sniper:
Brügger & Thomet APR - Main Sniper Rifle (Snipers)-


Bushmaster ACR - Main Assault Rifle (Special Forces)-


M240 Machine Gun - Main Heavy Weapon (Heavy Weapons Expert)-


Benilli M1 - Side arm (Heavy Weapons Expert) -

[San-Silvacian]

G36 - Main Assault Rifle (Grunts)-
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IMI Desert Eagle - Main Sidearm (All)-
([url=http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7623/deserteagler.jpg]Image)[/url]

Sniper:
Brügger & Thomet APR - Main Sniper Rifle (Snipers)-
([url=http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6734/799pxbrggerthometapr338.jpg]Image)[/url]

Bushmaster ACR - Main Assault Rifle (Special Forces)-
([url=http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1075/masada1s.jpg]Image)[/url]

M240 Machine Gun - Main Heavy Weapon (Heavy Weapons Expert)-
([url=http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9713/image002zu.jpg]Image)[/url]

Benilli M1 - Side arm (Heavy Weapons Expert) -
([url=http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/795/benm1e2.jpg]Image)[/url]

G36 is a good choice, which model though?

Deagle is fucking stupid. I hate that gun. Plus they don't issue sidearms to everyone, just those who need it.

APR? Meh, I'd have three different kinds of rifles, an anti-material, a designated marksman rifle, and a sniper rifle.

ACR? Thats not a bad choice, but you normally give your Special Forces allot of choice and you don't want to hold them up with one kind of rifle.

M240 Now, thats a GPMG like the M60, normally those are in machine gun teams that are deployed on per needed basis. You can't really use the M240 like a Squad Support Weapon like the M249 is made for.

Shottie is useless and would be weight for the machine gunner who should only have his machine gun, a side arm, and a knife/bayonet. Shotties should be issued as a per needed basis.

[Galla-]

You can do anything with an AR-15.

Except making it a bulpup. T_T

KH2002.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Why the hell does everyone love the Deagle so much? It looks cool, yeah, but it's so impractical/heavy/trigger-pull-heavy/light on ammo. There's a reason that, to my knowledge, no actual military uses the thing.