MMW MkV thread. It's been fun.

[Indeos]

So, it's got performance that'll be very similar to .280B but you had to propose it instead because you made it. #CordasgonnaCorda

It's got performance similar to .280, but it fits in STANAG magazines and loads more modern bullets.

#IndeosbeingadicktosuckuptoGalla

Yep. Because you can't see the huge fucking argument I'm having with him, or deal with any kind of criticism that doesn't involve me talking about how great your guns are. If I'm allowed to be honest, Galla gets on my nerves more often than not. I'll say it again: there's no fucking conspiracy to put him on a fucking pedestal and make everyone else think they're shit.

[Galla-]

1) "Shock value" is about as pointless as "stopping power" when it comes to combat. If you're relying on your enemy to TREMBLE IN FEAR, you're not planning for fighting, you're planning for a costume party.
2) There exist suits today designed to do just such things, weighing less than 6 kg, or 14 lbs.

1. Shock value was what the discussion was about. I don't particularly care whether it's useful or not; I was just pointing out that you kept shifting the discussion around.
2. Presumably those are still fairly thick. 14lbs is a couple times what normal clothes weigh.

1. urrite I should have said "no" rather than offering a somewhat sane alternative.
2. Those types of suits are designed for police/special operations entry teams who are dealing with grenades in doorways and such, but with a full body suit the weight is distributed across the entire body, not centered on the shoulders and back, so it wouldn't be as dramatic a weight, but that means you'd probably have more trouble bending/turning than with a normal vest. ):

Unfortunately the armor-piercing bullets liberally supplied to Great War machine guns and riflemen will penetrate 12-13mm of steel.

Do you know how many rounds riflemen were supplied on average? >:

[Nua Corda]

It's got performance similar to .280, but it fits in STANAG magazines and loads more modern bullets.

#IndeosbeingadicktosuckuptoGalla

Yep. Because you can't see the huge fucking argument I'm having with him, or deal with any kind of criticism that doesn't involve me talking about how great your guns are. If I'm allowed to be honest, Galla gets on my nerves more often than not. I'll say it again: there's no fucking conspiracy to put him on a fucking pedestal and make everyone else think they're shit.

Except you go charging after anyone who chalanges him. I'm fine with REAL criticism, just not your dickish insults, which are never constructive and always intentionally offensive.

- I'll be honest: I'm ignoring you before this turns into a flame war.

[Galla-]

Yep. Because you can't see the huge fucking argument I'm having with him, or deal with any kind of criticism that doesn't involve me talking about how great your guns are. If I'm allowed to be honest, Galla gets on my nerves more often than not. I'll say it again: there's no fucking conspiracy to put him on a fucking pedestal and make everyone else think they're shit.

Except you go charging after anyone who chalanges him. I'm fine with REAL criticism, just not your dickish insults, which are never constructive and always intentionally offensive.

~katt conspiracy~

[Sevvania]

Yep. Because you can't see the huge fucking argument I'm having with him, or deal with any kind of criticism that doesn't involve me talking about how great your guns are. If I'm allowed to be honest, Galla gets on my nerves more often than not. I'll say it again: there's no fucking conspiracy to put him on a fucking pedestal and make everyone else think they're shit.

Except you go charging after anyone who chalanges him. I'm fine with REAL criticism, just not your dickish insults, which are never constructive and always intentionally offensive.

Most "real" criticism is a matter of opinion, but

your dickish insults

seems to be a pretty clear example of something that's intentionally offensive.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Galla is god tier. Heil Galla. o/

[Indeos]

1. Shock value was what the discussion was about. I don't particularly care whether it's useful or not; I was just pointing out that you kept shifting the discussion around.
2. Presumably those are still fairly thick. 14lbs is a couple times what normal clothes weigh.

1. urrite I should have said "no" rather than offering a somewhat sane alternative.
2. Those types of suits are designed for police/special operations entry teams who are dealing with grenades in doorways and such, but with a full body suit the weight is distributed across the entire body, not centered on the shoulders and back, so it wouldn't be as dramatic a weight, but that means you'd probably have more trouble bending/turning than with a normal vest. ):

1. Basically, yeah. This was Purp's thing we were discussing; did you expect the sane alternative to even be considered?
2. True. As Sev said he's only like 1950's tech.

Yep. Because you can't see the huge fucking argument I'm having with him, or deal with any kind of criticism that doesn't involve me talking about how great your guns are. If I'm allowed to be honest, Galla gets on my nerves more often than not. I'll say it again: there's no fucking conspiracy to put him on a fucking pedestal and make everyone else think they're shit.

Except you go charging after anyone who chalanges him. I'm fine with REAL criticism, just not your dickish insults, which are never constructive and always intentionally offensive.

Yep. I go charging after people because they disagree with a fungus (see his sig) that I sometimes wish I could punch in the head. And I definitely never give constructive criticism ever, which is why people ITT have inexplicably admitted to liking me. You just have personal problems with a lot of people, and if you can't get over that I think we'd all prefer you get the fuck out, honestly.

[Galla-]

1. urrite I should have said "no" rather than offering a somewhat sane alternative.
2. Those types of suits are designed for police/special operations entry teams who are dealing with grenades in doorways and such, but with a full body suit the weight is distributed across the entire body, not centered on the shoulders and back, so it wouldn't be as dramatic a weight, but that means you'd probably have more trouble bending/turning than with a normal vest. ):

1. Basically, yeah. This was Purp's thing we were discussing; did you expect the sane alternative to even be considered?
2. True. As Sev said he's only like 1950's tech.

Except you go charging after anyone who chalanges him. I'm fine with REAL criticism, just not your dickish insults, which are never constructive and always intentionally offensive.

Yep. I go charging after people because they disagree with a fungus (see his sig) that I sometimes wish I could punch in the head. And I definitely never give constructive criticism ever, which is why people ITT have inexplicably admitted to liking me. You just have personal problems with a lot of people, and if you can't get over that I think we'd all prefer you get the fuck out, honestly.

i'm sorry, but in the future please refer to me as a puffball

"fungus" is a pejorative term for my kind ):

[Indeos]

1. Basically, yeah. This was Purp's thing we were discussing; did you expect the sane alternative to even be considered?
2. True. As Sev said he's only like 1950's tech.



Yep. I go charging after people because they disagree with a fungus (see his sig) that I sometimes wish I could punch in the head. And I definitely never give constructive criticism ever, which is why people ITT have inexplicably admitted to liking me. You just have personal problems with a lot of people, and if you can't get over that I think we'd all prefer you get the fuck out, honestly.

i'm sorry, but in the future please refer to me as a puffball

"fungus" is a pejorative term for my kind ):

Sorry Galla.

For the record, people ITT tend to be more frustrating when they're right than when they're wrong.

[Nua Corda]

Except you go charging after anyone who chalanges him. I'm fine with REAL criticism, just not your dickish insults, which are never constructive and always intentionally offensive.

Most "real" criticism is a matter of opinion, but

your dickish insults

seems to be a pretty clear example of something that's intentionally offensive.

I'd say that "real" criticism is intended to help someone improve, it points out things that need improvement, and suggests ways to improve them. Whereas insults are basically: "this is stupid" "this is wrong" "you're stupid" "you're wrong" ect.

Those types of insults are an example of behavior generally related with being a dick/jerk/tool. It's a descriptor of the insults, not a mechanism to offend.

[Indeos]

Most "real" criticism is a matter of opinion, but

seems to be a pretty clear example of something that's intentionally offensive.

I'd say that "real" criticism is intended to help someone improve, it points out things that need improvement, and suggests ways to improve them. Whereas insults are basically: "this is stupid" "this is wrong" "you're stupid" "you're wrong" ect.

Those types of insults are an example of behavior generally related with being a dick/jerk/tool. It's a descriptor of the insults, not a mechanism to offend.

Can you find some kind of example where all I said was that you or somebody else was wrong without offering a description?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Minor touch ups to my domestic .280, edited the rim for easier feeding, and raised the shoulder for the so called 'higher pressure' loadings.

#NoideawhatIamdoing

[Den Svenska Riket]

here is the fixed SMG and a modern StG rechambered for standard NATO round.

http://i.imgur.com/HZE6v.png

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

here is the fixed SMG and a modern StG rechambered for standard NATO round.

Image, sil' vous plait.

[Den Svenska Riket]

here is the fixed SMG and a modern StG rechambered for standard NATO round.

Image, sil' vous plait.

1. I fixed it.
2. I dont speak French

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Image, sil' vous plait.

1. I fixed it.
2. I dont speak French

THEN HOW DID YOU KNOOOOWWW?!

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

here is the fixed SMG and a modern StG rechambered for standard NATO round.

http://i.imgur.com/HZE6v.png

Magazine for the SMG looks it'll end up on somebody's lap. I rate your StG at 4,5 kg's. Most modern assault rifles are around 3,5-4 kg's.

[Den Svenska Riket]

1. I fixed it.
2. I dont speak French

THEN HOW DID YOU KNOOOOWWW?!

I know what French looks like.

does the mag need to be less long or less size all around

[Alimeria II]

Yet another PMG creation by Alimeria. This time the Gun my Infantry is equipped with. In case y'all can't tell, I shrank down the 50 BMG to attempt to create a 30-06 bullet.

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<weapon>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1286.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d4af37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1291.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d4af37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1286.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d4af37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1107.2" y="466.45" rotation="0" scale="1.24" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1102.2" y="466.45" rotation="0" scale="1.24" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="1305.2" y="460.45" rotation="0" scale="0.9" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37"/>
  <part id="Shape07" x="1203.2" y="460.45" rotation="0" scale="0.899993896484375" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37"/>
  <part id="Shape07" x="1112.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="0.9" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37"/>
  <group x="1155.2" y="526.95" rotation="0" scale="0.65" flip="1,1">
    <part id="Ammo50CalB" x="33" y="-0.05" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors=""/>
    <part id="Ammo50CalS" x="-17" y="0" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors=""/>
  </group>
  <part id="Bolt007B" x="904" y="473.95" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d4af37"/>
  <part id="Handguard026" x="1153.6" y="453.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="-1,1" colors="9c5e37,666666"/>
  <part id="Handguard026" x="1201.2" y="453.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37,666666"/>
  <part id="LReceiver021" x="996" y="516.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="9c7342,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="ISight010" x="1473.2" y="442.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="LReceiver018B" x="978.2" y="504.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
  <part id="Barrel008" x="1254" y="454.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Shape03" x="989" y="454.45" rotation="0" scale="0.5" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="Shape03" x="1001" y="454.45" rotation="0" scale="0.5" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="845" y="470.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="ISight012" x="925.2" y="455.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Bolt007" x="946" y="454.95" rotation="0" scale="0.7" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="Shape10" x="865" y="481.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="843" y="458.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="870" y="539.95" rotation="-57.678857274283416" scale="1.4715669897691166" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="872" y="567.45" rotation="17.014060701146065" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="LReceiver015" x="915" y="520.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="Bolt007" x="972" y="453.95" rotation="0" scale="0.6638936036603547" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="RMag022" x="975.2" y="526.45" rotation="0" scale="1.2" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="RIS030" x="1135.2" y="446.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
</weapon>

[Indeos]

(Image)

Yet another PMG creation by Alimeria. This time the Gun my Infantry is equipped with. In case y'all can't tell, I shrank down the 50 BMG to attempt to create a 30-06 bullet.

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<weapon>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1284.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1290.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1286.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1107.2" y="466.45" rotation="0" scale="1.24" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="DeltaRing04" x="1102.2" y="466.45" rotation="0" scale="1.24" flip="1,1" colors="d3aa37"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="1305.2" y="460.45" rotation="0" scale="0.9" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37"/>
  <part id="Shape07" x="1203.2" y="460.45" rotation="0" scale="0.899993896484375" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37"/>
  <part id="Shape07" x="1112.2" y="462.45" rotation="0" scale="0.9" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37"/>
  <part id="Gren30mm01" x="975" y="133.95" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="fbec5d"/>
  <group x="1155.2" y="526.95" rotation="0" scale="0.65" flip="1,1">
    <part id="Ammo50CalB" x="33" y="-0.05" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors=""/>
    <part id="Ammo50CalS" x="-17" y="0" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors=""/>
  </group>
  <group x="995.2" y="106.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1">
    <part id="Ammo762x39mmB" x="15.2" y="-0.05" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors=""/>
    <part id="Ammo762x39mmS" x="-6.35" y="0" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors=""/>
  </group>
  <part id="Bolt007B" x="904" y="473.95" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Handguard026" x="1153.6" y="453.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="-1,1" colors="9c5e37,666666"/>
  <part id="Handguard026" x="1201.2" y="453.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="9c5e37,666666"/>
  <part id="LReceiver021" x="996" y="516.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="9c7342,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="ISight010" x="1468.2" y="442.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="LReceiver018B" x="978.2" y="504.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
  <part id="Barrel008" x="1254" y="454.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Shape03" x="989" y="454.45" rotation="0" scale="0.5" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="Shape03" x="1001" y="454.45" rotation="0" scale="0.5" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <group x="1226" y="120.95" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1">
    <part id="GL02Mag" x="-93.7" y="12.4" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
    <part id="GL02Base" x="0" y="0" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,b68157"/>
  </group>
  <part id="Shape01" x="845" y="470.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="ISight012" x="925.2" y="455.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="Bolt007" x="946" y="454.95" rotation="0" scale="0.7" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="Shape10" x="865" y="481.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="843" y="458.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="Shape01" x="870" y="539.95" rotation="-57.678857274283416" scale="1.4715669897691166" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="Shape04" x="872" y="567.45" rotation="17.014060701146065" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="ffffff"/>
  <part id="LReceiver015" x="915" y="520.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666,666666"/>
  <part id="Bolt007" x="972" y="453.95" rotation="0" scale="0.6638936036603547" flip="1,1" colors="bfc1c2"/>
  <part id="RMag023" x="789.2" y="150.45" rotation="0" scale="1.2" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="RMag022" x="975.2" y="526.45" rotation="0" scale="1.2" flip="1,1" colors="666666"/>
  <part id="RIS030" x="1135.2" y="446.45" rotation="0" scale="1" flip="1,1" colors="666666,666666"/>
</weapon>

Part of it is a different color.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

THEN HOW DID YOU KNOOOOWWW?!

I know what French looks like.

does the mag need to be less long or less size all around

Less long, it'll stick me in the leg when firing from the hip, and srsly 50 rounds? Get P90 mag or Bison mag.

[Den Svenska Riket]

I know what French looks like.

does the mag need to be less long or less size all around

Less long, it'll stick me in the leg when firing from the hip, and srsly 50 rounds? Get P90 mag or Bison mag.

I didn't say it was 50 rounds.

[Alimeria II]

Part of it is a different color.

I had experimented a little with colours. And I forgot to delete the stuff above. Woops.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Less long, it'll stick me in the leg when firing from the hip, and srsly 50 rounds? Get P90 mag or Bison mag.

I didn't say it was 50 rounds.

Well, yer looking like between 40-50 rounds with that mag.

[The Phoenix Coalition]

Despite originally being designed as a squad automatic weapon, most Coalition troops are equipped with the LWRC M6A4 IAR chambered for the 5.56x45mm NATO cartridge. There have been plans to change over to the 6.8 Remington SPC round in the past but this now seems unlikely as the Council has focused spending on acquiring stealth interdiction aircraft.