Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Mk.IV

[Socialist States Owen]

HOLY SHIT

IS THAT WHAT I THINK IT IS

FIFTY SIX POINT TWO TONS OF SOLID STEEL AND GUN ON FUCKING STEROIDS AND WEED

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BUY MORE TANKS

As you can see, FSSOTank is for men. Manly men. Manly men doing manly things like football and talking about cars and women and shit.

In all seriousness, here is my nations last generation MBT. I've never actually asked for the thoughts of you guys on it before so here you go.

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[Orussia]

Cripes. I just realized that I never posted my tank on this thread...
Time to cause RAEG.

Kharkov T-94SU

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The creme de la creme of Orussian tanks, the T-94SU is powerful in every regard. When the 'UMX' was found to be unable to reliably kill the heaviest of the tanks existing today, KHI privately undertook a study to determine whether a 152mm cannon would be suitable for use as a tank gun. After enlarging the breech and strengthening the barrel, the 2A64 L/47 artillery gun was found to be an excellent option.
The Defense Ministry was made aware of the potential of the newly dubbed T-94SU, and allowed KHI to finalize development.

This tank was the result.

Mounting a 152mm l/47 2A65 cannon, the T-94SU is capable of penetrating even the heaviest of armored vehicles, and the sheer size of its rounds almost guarantee a first-hit kill.

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Dry Weight: 125,000 lbs(62.5 Tons)
Combat Weight: 140,000 lbs(70 Tons)
Max Weight: 150,000 lbs(75 Tons)
Crew: 3 (Driver in hull, Commander and Gunner in turret)

Propulsion:

Engine: 1x VMK AG 12-Cylinder Opposed Piston Quad-Turbocharged Diesel
Power: 2000 HP(2250 HP available)
APU: 2x KHI 1.5L Inline-4 Turbocharged Diesel
Power: 100HP each
Energy Produced: 100Kw per APU
Transmission: 8-gear(6 forward, 2 reverse)
Steering System: Epicyclic Double Differential

Performance:

Top Speed: 40mph
Cruising Speed: 35mph
Fuel Capacity: 1200 liters + 2x200 liter fuel drums (Mountable on the engine deck)
Unrefueled Range: 300 miles (Internal fuel, on road)
375 miles (Internal + External fuel, on road)


Running Gear:

Suspension: Torsion Bar
Track Type: Triple-Pin Removable-Pad Linked Track
Track Pitch: 150mmx600mm

Armament:

Main Gun: 1x152.4mm L/47 2A65T Anti-Tank Cannon
Number of Rounds: 24+1
Shell Types: APFSDS, HEAT, HE, GLATGM
Loading Method: Bustle-Mounted Autoloader
Rate of Fire: 6 rpm (8 rpm burst)

Co-Axial: 2x14.5mm SA-14114HMG Heavy Machine Gun
Type of mount: Fixed, internal
Number of Rounds: 875+125
Rate of Fire: 300 rpm

Secondary Weapon: 1x12.7mm SA-1276HMG Heavy Machine Gun
Type of Mount: Remote Weapons System
Number of Rounds: 1250+250
Rate of Fire: 600 rpm

Defensive Weapons: 24x40mm Smoke Grenade Dischargers

Armor:

Hull:

Front/Glacis Plate: 350mm Layered Composite
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Series Aluminum Armor
100mm High-Hardness ESR Steel Plates(500 BHN)
50mm Cast DU Armor
150mm Boron Carbide Ceramic Plates
RHAe: 586mm

Side: 150mm Layered Composite
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Series Aluminum Armor
50mm High-Hardness ESR Steel Plates(500 BHN)
50mm Boron Carbide Ceramic Plates
RHAe: 221mm

Rear: 100mm Layered Composite
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Series Aluminum Armor
50mm High-Hardness ESR Steel Plates(500 BHN)
RHAe: 121mm

Top: 50mm Backed Aluminum Armor
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Series Aluminum Armor
RHAe: 31mm

Turret:

Front: 600mm Layered Composite
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Series Aluminum Armor
250mm High-Hardness ESR Steel Plates
100mm Cast DU Armor
150mm Boron Carbide Ceramic Plates
RHAe: 931mm

Side: 300mm Layered Composite
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Series Aluminum Armor
150mm High-Hardness ESR Steel Plates
100mm Boron Carbide Ceramic Plates
RHAe: 501mm

Rear: 100mm Layered Composite
Armor Layers(Back-to-Front):
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Aluminum Armor
25mm High-Hardness ESR Steel Plates
50mm Boron Carbide Ceramic Plates
RHAe: 176mm

Top: 50mm Layered Composite
10mm Kevlar Splinter Shield
40mm AL-5000 Aluminum Armor
25mm Boron Carbide Ceramic Plates
RHAe: 81mm

[Roskaya]

T-26 MBT. Can be produced with or without autoloader.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/ ... 35ld3p.jpg

Weight: 112,000lb (56 tons/51 tonnes)
Length: 32ft 2in (9.8m)
Width: 12ft 0in (3.7m)
Height: 9ft 4in (2.8m)
Crew: 3 or 4, depending on whether autoloader is fitted

Armor: 30mm (1.2in) minimum, 300mm (11.8in) maximum; Composite with optional ERA
Primary armament: One HVT-12, 125mm smooth-bore gun, 40 (with autoloader) or 50 shells (without)
Secondary armament: Two CT-7 7.62mm machine gun (coaxle, turret roof), 2,600 shells; one AA-12M 12.7mm antiaircraft machine gun, 1,000 shells
Engine: SL-1210 V-12 diesel developing 1,000 horsepower at 1,200 RPM
Transmission: T-1052 cross drive, 5 forward gears and 2 reverse.
Power/weight ratio: 18 hp/ton (19.6 hp/tonne)
Suspension: Double torsion-bar with six dual road wheels
Fuel capacity: 350 US Gal (1,325 Liters)
Fuel Consumption: 1.1 US Gal/mile (3.7 liters/kilometer)
Operational range: 310 miles (499 kilometers)
Speed: 43 mph (69 km/h)

Here's one of their older designs not really used anymore but plenty remain just incase they get desperate...13,000 were built, and some were rearmed with a 100mm gun, with 70 rounds.

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2 ... 3awnhv.jpg

T-28 Medium Tank

Weight: 84,650lb (42.3 tons; 38.4 tonnes)
Length: 28ft 8in (8.7m)
Width: 11ft 6in (3.5m)
Height: 9ft 6in (2.9m)
Crew: 4

Armour: Minimum 20mm (.8in) turret roof; up to 270mm (10.6in) mantlet; 120mm (4.7in) turret front; 102mm (4in) hull front
Primary Armament: D-25 85mm L/55 gun, 92 rounds
Secondary Armament: One 8mm MG coaxle with main gun, 2,000 rounds; one 12.7mm AA MG on turret roof, 600 rounds
Engine: TE-8S Supercharged V-8 diesel developing 600 hp @ 2000rpm
Transmission: MT-628 cross-drive; 5 speeds forward and 2 reverse
Power/Weight Ratio: 14.2 hp/ton (15.6 hp/tonne)
Suspension: Torsion bar with six individually sprung dual road wheels
Fuel Capacity: 221 gallons (837 L)
Fuel Consumption: 1.3 gal/mile (3.1 L/km)
Operational Range: 170 miles (270 km)
Speed: 40mph (64km/h) road; 25mph (40km/h) off-road

[Orussia]

T-26 MBT. Can be produced with or without autoloader.

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/ ... 35ld3p.jpg

Weight: 112,000lb (56 tons/51 tonnes)
Length: 32ft 2in (9.8m)
Width: 12ft 0in (3.7m)
Height: 9ft 4in (2.8m)
Crew: 3 or 4, depending on whether autoloader is fitted

Armor: 30mm (1.2in) minimum, 300mm (11.8in) maximum; Composite with optional ERA
Primary armament: One HVT-12, 125mm smooth-bore gun, 40 (with autoloader) or 50 shells (without)
Secondary armament: Two CT-7 7.62mm machine gun (coaxle, turret roof), 2,600 shells; one AA-12M 12.7mm antiaircraft machine gun, 1,000 shells
Engine: SL-1210 V-12 diesel developing 1,000 horsepower at 1,200 RPM
Transmission: T-1052 cross drive, 5 forward gears and 2 reverse.
Power/weight ratio: 18 hp/ton (19.6 hp/tonne)
Suspension: Double torsion-bar with six dual road wheels
Fuel capacity: 350 US Gal (1,325 Liters)
Fuel Consumption: 1.1 US Gal/mile (3.7 liters/kilometer)
Operational range: 310 miles (499 kilometers)
Speed: 43 mph (69 km/h)

Here's one of their older designs not really used anymore but plenty remain just incase they get desperate...13,000 were built, and some were rearmed with a 100mm gun, with 70 rounds.

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2 ... 3awnhv.jpg

T-28 Medium Tank

Weight: 84,650lb (42.3 tons; 38.4 tonnes)
Length: 28ft 8in (8.7m)
Width: 11ft 6in (3.5m)
Height: 9ft 6in (2.9m)
Crew: 4

Armour: Minimum 20mm (.8in) turret roof; up to 270mm (10.6in) mantlet; 120mm (4.7in) turret front; 102mm (4in) hull front
Primary Armament: D-25 85mm L/55 gun, 92 rounds
Secondary Armament: One 8mm MG coaxle with main gun, 2,000 rounds; one 12.7mm AA MG on turret roof, 600 rounds
Engine: TE-8S Supercharged V-8 diesel developing 600 hp @ 2000rpm
Transmission: MT-628 cross-drive; 5 speeds forward and 2 reverse
Power/Weight Ratio: 14.2 hp/ton (15.6 hp/tonne)
Suspension: Torsion bar with six individually sprung dual road wheels
Fuel Capacity: 221 gallons (837 L)
Fuel Consumption: 1.3 gal/mile (3.1 L/km)
Operational Range: 170 miles (270 km)
Speed: 40mph (64km/h) road; 25mph (40km/h) off-road

Hmmm...what tech era are you, if I might ask?

[Ea90]

@Orussia: Is your tank for sale?

[Orussia]

@Orussia: Is your tank for sale?

Well...
It is, but it's a highly restricted export item. Not just anyone can dance in and buy one.
The relevant information is on my storefront's OP. The link is in my sig.

[Roskaya]

Eh, about like NATO countries irl about now...in the original private rp universe, my country would export weaponry for oil. (Massive coal reserves but practically no oil)

[Orussia]

Eh, about like NATO countries irl about now...in the original private rp universe, my country would export weaponry for oil. (Massive coal reserves but practically no oil)

Ok, so MT.
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Honestly, the designs you have are...ill-suited to modern warfare. Particularly the T-28, seeing as how an 85mm won't even dent most tanks of today. The 100mm upgunning makes them marginally more potent, but barely.

(Also, IRL, "D-25T" was the designation for the tank-mounted version of the 122mm A-19 howitzer. Most famously mounted on the IS-2. The 85mm was designated either the D-5T (IS-1 and KV-85) or ZiS S-53 (T-34-85 and T-44), depending on which factory produced it and which vehicle it was mounted on. )

[Questers]

Softham Arsenal Mark XVI (SA-16A) Battle Tank

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[Samozaryadnyastan]

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Softham Arsenal Mark XVI (SA-16A) Battle Tank

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I don't recall what the response was when this was raised in the Draftroom - but shouldn't the cupola gun's ammunition be stated as "300 rounds in 50 round boxes" rather than "300 rounds in a 50 round box"?

[Immoren]

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Softham Arsenal Mark XVI (SA-16A) Battle Tank

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What kind of autoloader it employs?

[Orussia]

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Softham Arsenal Mark XVI (SA-16A) Battle Tank

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=180794

I don't recall what the response was when this was raised in the Draftroom - but shouldn't the cupola gun's ammunition be stated as "300 rounds in 50 round boxes" rather than "300 rounds in a 50 round box"?

No, because everyone knows it's better to absurdly overfill your ammo storage containers.

[Questers]

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Softham Arsenal Mark XVI (SA-16A) Battle Tank

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=180794

What kind of autoloader it employs?

This needs to be further detailed.

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Softham Arsenal Mark XVI (SA-16A) Battle Tank

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=180794

I don't recall what the response was when this was raised in the Draftroom - but shouldn't the cupola gun's ammunition be stated as "300 rounds in 50 round boxes" rather than "300 rounds in a 50 round box"?

Well, this was my response to Ekr being an aspie:



I think it's fairly evident that I'm not claiming to fit 300 rounds in a 50 round box, but if people really do have a problem with it, I'll sum up the effort to change it.

Currently I'm looking at perforation. this is cool, but I'm not sure what to put for density of armour or brinell hardness or. So far I'm using 7850 & 300 which gives me super-similar results to what Rroan told me, but still.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I don't recall what the response was when this was raised in the Draftroom - but shouldn't the cupola gun's ammunition be stated as "300 rounds in 50 round boxes" rather than "300 rounds in a 50 round box"?

No, because everyone knows it's better to absurdly overfill your ammo storage containers.

TO HELL WITH MAXIMUM STATED CAPACITY
I'M SHOOTING HERE

[Questers]

also S tank version with 140mm gun

[Roskaya]

Eh, about like NATO countries irl about now...in the original private rp universe, my country would export weaponry for oil. (Massive coal reserves but practically no oil)

Ok, so MT.
...
...
Honestly, the designs you have are...ill-suited to modern warfare. Particularly the T-28, seeing as how an 85mm won't even dent most tanks of today. The 100mm upgunning makes them marginally more potent, but barely.

(Also, IRL, "D-25T" was the designation for the tank-mounted version of the 122mm A-19 howitzer. Most famously mounted on the IS-2. The 85mm was designated either the D-5T (IS-1 and KV-85) or ZiS S-53 (T-34-85 and T-44), depending on which factory produced it and which vehicle it was mounted on. )

I know I know. The T-28 is no longer used as noted, and they were originally designed for a very fictional world so had their own designations. The 125mm tank is using many modern things.

[Galla-]

Eh, about like NATO countries irl about now...in the original private rp universe, my country would export weaponry for oil. (Massive coal reserves but practically no oil)

Ok, so MT.
...
...
Honestly, the designs you have are...ill-suited to modern warfare. Particularly the T-28, seeing as how an 85mm won't even dent most tanks of today. The 100mm upgunning makes them marginally more potent, but barely.

(Also, IRL, "D-25T" was the designation for the tank-mounted version of the 122mm A-19 howitzer. Most famously mounted on the IS-2. The 85mm was designated either the D-5T (IS-1 and KV-85) or ZiS S-53 (T-34-85 and T-44), depending on which factory produced it and which vehicle it was mounted on. )

wat

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

Currently I'm looking at perforation. this is cool, but I'm not sure what to put for density of armour or brinell hardness or. So far I'm using 7850 & 300 which gives me super-similar results to what Rroan told me, but still.

7850 is appropriate for density, and a hardness of 300 is somewhere between RHA (~235) and high-hardness armor (somewhere past 400 IIRC). If you look at the downloads section there's a spreadsheet specifically for jacketed penetrators, which have a slightly lower perforation than a normal penetrator (the appropriate term is monoblock IIRC) of the same size/velocity. Of course, they let you achieve higher penetrator lengths and velocities, which more than makes up the difference.

That website and the materials on it are by a researcher who actually does this shit for a day job, and was involved in the swiss 140mm gun program.

also S tank version with 140mm gun (Image)

Tank guns do get significantly thicker at the chamber. I would either bump the barrel down a few pixels or raise the roof a bit. For reference, here's how much higher the S-tanks roof was compared to the gun.

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

in other news TWO GUNS JUST WASN'T ENOUGH

[Anacasppia]

The Leopard 2A6, all of which are planned to be upgraded to 2A7 standard over the course of the next two years as a stop-gap measure. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2)

[Kouralia]

in other news TWO GUNS JUST WASN'T ENOUGH

OH MY GOD THEY ALL MOVE INDEPENDENTLY!

*ahem*

I'll just go and calm down...

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Random question: is there anyway to combine the density of tungsten with the hardness of Boron carbide ( or Silicon carbide if it's cheaper )?

i didn't choose to have a mixture of diamond hardness because it still pretty rare and expensive. I'm sure they are getting better at making synthetic diamonds, but I'm doubtful of how far it's gonna go for now.

[Deneager]

Could some of you give me a reveiw of my tanks. Their link is in the signature under Marter Armarments. Please send me telegrams if you do reveiw it. Thank you.

[Ea90]

How many tanks should there be in a division?

[Questers]

more like how many tanks should there be in a battalion/brigade