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Who will OP the next Ground Vehicle thread?

Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen
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19%
Transnapastain
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Lubyak
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8%
Risen Britannia
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The Alaska Colony
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12%
Orussia
24
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The Kievan People
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9%
 
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Elan Valleys
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Postby Elan Valleys » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:34 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Not an IFV. Can't carry troops.

I don't strictly see why it can't, since it's just a BMP-3 with a different turret. Troops are sat all around the turret anyway in a BMP-3 so my guess is that the issue is to do with ammunition lying in all the everywhere.

Larger turret ring?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:35 am

Elan Valleys wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I don't strictly see why it can't, since it's just a BMP-3 with a different turret. Troops are sat all around the turret anyway in a BMP-3 so my guess is that the issue is to do with ammunition lying in all the everywhere.

Larger turret ring?

Can you really do that to an armoured vehicle?
I thought enlarging the turret ring would effectively weaken the hull structure.
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Postby Republic of South Carolina » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:36 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Not an IFV. Can't carry troops.

I don't strictly see why it can't, since it's just a BMP-3 with a different turret. Troops are sat all around the turret anyway in a BMP-3 so my guess is that the issue is to do with ammunition lying in all the everywhere.

BMD-3 Hull. The BMD-3 can only carry 4 Personnel, anyways. They can ride Tank-desant with the Sprut. The BMD Family of Vehicles are Air-dropped vehicles for the VDV.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:58 am

Is 9.3m too long for a WW1 tank? Remembering that I use Mark 1 style tracks so at least 1.8m of that would be the front and rear track overhangs. (wont effect weight that much).
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Postby The Kievan People » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:38 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Not an IFV. Can't carry troops.

I don't strictly see why it can't, since it's just a BMP-3 with a different turret. Troops are sat all around the turret anyway in a BMP-3 so my guess is that the issue is to do with ammunition lying in all the everywhere.


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The Sprut-SD is not on a BMP-3 hull.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:54 am

Which we have since established.
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:51 am

Purpelia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:I don't recall the Stug III being used in the 40k universe.

It's based on those Baneblade titan killers that look like stugs. Either that or the awesome but not always remembered Leaman Russ Destroyer tank hunter.


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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:56 am

I was newer much of a FAL guy anyway. I prefer the SIG SG 510.
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Postby Cameroi » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:07 am

if we had a military and it had vehicles, they would not run on the ground, because we have and use anti-gravity instead, so we don't have to tear up the environment to do whatever we need to do.
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:17 am

Cameroi wrote:if we had a military and it had vehicles, they would not run on the ground, because we have and use anti-gravity instead, so we don't have to tear up the environment to do whatever we need to do.

You don't use munitions?
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Postby Bhelyant » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:30 am

Purpelia wrote:I was newer much of a FAL guy anyway. I prefer the SIG SG 510.


How bad do you want one? There was one an AMT at the Cabela's I went to a few days ago. 8)

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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:38 am

I am not all into buying and owning firearms. I think these are something that should be reserved for police and the army to be honest. But dam that thing just looks cute.
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:44 am

Bhelyant wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I was newer much of a FAL guy anyway. I prefer the SIG SG 510.


How bad do you want one? There was one an AMT at the Cabela's I went to a few days ago. 8)

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I've always thought that thing looks absolutely hideous.
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Postby Bhelyant » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:44 am

O.O

I guess that's a good thing - it was mostly priced outside of availability (at least mine :meh: ) anyways.

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It sure is a steep price, but each magazine is worth ~$250, to put it into perspective. :(
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:45 pm

Purpelia wrote:
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It's no less effective at infantry support than it was previously. The decrease in ammunition capacity is immaterial relative to its intended use. The increase in caliber provides it a more powerful HE shell as well. Weight increases were mostly not related to the armament change, either.

But when you take all those things together (more weight, different gun, less ammo, searing heat behind the tank so that you can't stand behind it to take cover, etc.) It's clearly good at what it does, but not as good as it could be at something else if it was designed with that something else in mind.

Personally I believe in converting some IFVs into medium tanks, but that's me.
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The difference of ~15 rounds is not that great, especially if the tank crew goes and says "screw regulations," and carries an additional twenty rounds of ammunition underneath flame retardant blankets during exceptional wartime conditions.

Purpelia wrote:Is 9.3m too long for a WW1 tank? Remembering that I use Mark 1 style tracks so at least 1.8m of that would be the front and rear track overhangs. (wont effect weight that much).

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Surprisingly NS tanks aren't TOG II-copies, because WWI tanks and the TOG II were designed to traverse a ruined landscape churned up by shell fire and bombs.
Even NS-heavy tanks seem to not take this into consideration....


Is the smallest guided rocket possible around 75mm? I'm thinking of having a really expensive top-attack GLATGM.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:20 pm

Name: BMP-3/125
Type: Infantry Fighting Vehicle
Place or Origin: The People's Republic of San-Silvacian

Service History-
In Service: 1999-Current
Used By: The People's Republic of San-Silvacian
Wars:

Production History-
Designer: Junkers Motor Vehicles
Manufacturer: Various
Unit Cost: 6,500,000
Designed: 1990-1999
Number Built:
Variants: BMP-3/57, BMP-3/57-M, BMP-3/125, BMP-3/120

Specifications-
Weight: 26,000 kg (28.6 tons)
Length (Without gun forward): 7.1 m (23.2 ft)
Width: 3.2 m (10.5 ft)
Height: 2.72 m (8.9 ft)
Crew: 3 (Gunner, Commander, Driver)

Armament-
x1 2A46M
*15 HEAT
*25 APFSDS
*5 ATGM
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x1 PKT Co-Axial
*2000 rounds

General Performance-
Engine: MTE95A7 10-cyl. Diesel 550 PS (542.5 hp, 404.5 Kw)
Power/Weight: 19.2 PS (19.1 hp, 14.1 Kw)
Suspension: Torsion Bar
Fuel Capacity: 900 L (237.7 US gal) Internal
Operational Range: 600 km (370 mi) Internal
Speed: 70 km/h (43.5 mph)

Protection-
Passive Protection System: Nozh Explosive Reactive Armor, Slat Armor, Kontkat-5 Explosive Reactive Armor, Nakidka Radar-absorbent material
Frontal Armor (Hull): 45mm
Side Armor (Hull): 25mm
Rear Armor (Hull): 25mm
Frontal Armor (Turret): 40mm
Side Armor (Turret): 25mm
Rear Armor (Turret): 25mm
Active Protection System: 'Arena' Hardkill Active Protection System, Shtora-1 Softkill Active Protection System
NBC: CRBN Suite
Also holds: Provisions for three carbines and four magazines each. Five firing ports.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:27 pm

Suddenly, shameless teaser.

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I have fast hands.

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Postby Bhelyant » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:40 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:Name: BMP-3/125
Type: Infantry Fighting Vehicle
Place or Origin: The People's Republic of San-Silvacian


It seems a bit overgunned for an IFV with ATGMs, APFDS, and HEAT, but no HE or HE-FRAG. Though I suppose that's just a suggested loadout that changes based on mission requirements.

What's the significance of two types of ERA?
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:41 pm

Today seems to be a bit of a repost day for me, so I'll shamelessly continue the trend.

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Postby Saphirasia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:45 pm

Anemos Major wrote:Today seems to be a bit of a repost day for me, so I'll shamelessly continue the trend.

...how much would it cost to commission a .pdf for my four major designs?
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Soxastan wrote:...then how did you get 1TB of pony in about an hour, maybe less?

I have fast hands.

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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:52 pm

Saphirasia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:Today seems to be a bit of a repost day for me, so I'll shamelessly continue the trend.

...how much would it cost to commission a .pdf for my four major designs?


Ahahaha :P

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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:13 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
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You should probably talk to Anemos Major about that one. Though, I have heard him say that Dassault HATES being in the fighter aircraft market, and that they don't market their wares NEARLY as much as they should.

What do Dassault want to do, exactly?


Produce business jets. It's a very low risk business that nets them quite a bit of money, as opposed to fighter projects (where the initial investment is *very* high in comparative terms and, as the Rafale shows, returns are far from guaranteed).

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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:26 pm

Bhelyant wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:Name: BMP-3/125
Type: Infantry Fighting Vehicle
Place or Origin: The People's Republic of San-Silvacian


It seems a bit overgunned for an IFV with ATGMs, APFDS, and HEAT, but no HE or HE-FRAG. Though I suppose that's just a suggested loadout that changes based on mission requirements.

What's the significance of two types of ERA?


From what I understand, you can't put Nozh on top of a turret. You can do that with Kontakt-5 though.

Also its dedicated light-tank/tank destroyer. So I'll have to change that out.
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Postby Birneheim » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:58 pm

The main battle tank is the AMX56 "Leclerc" and as tank destroyer the Birneheim National Ground Forces (BNGF) uses the ERC90F1 "Sagaie" and the Marine Corps of the Birneheim National Maritime Forces (BNMF) uses the LVTP-7 alongside the AMX-10P.
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:00 pm

Birneheim wrote:The main battle tank is the AMX56 "Leclerc" and as tank destroyer the Birneheim National Ground Forces (BNGF) uses the ERC90F1 "Sagaie" and the Marine Corps of the Birneheim National Maritime Forces (BNMF) uses the LVTP-7 alongside the M113.


Nearly <3

Could I possibly prevail upon you to replace that M113 with the AMX-10P?

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