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Who will OP the next Ground Vehicle thread?

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The Alaska Colony
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Orussia
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The Kievan People
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Samozaryadnyastan
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:49 pm

I take it that, with the same advice, there's no issue with a full-power 120mm gun on a light chassis?
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Postby Bafuria » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:26 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I take it that, with the same advice, there's no issue with a full-power 120mm gun on a light chassis?


I think the Argentinians are planning to put 120mm guns on their 30 ton TAMs.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:49 pm

I'm thinking a chassis about half that :S
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:49 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I'm fairly certain that two of the vehicles further down the lists were in Endwar, both for European Federation forces.

ENDWAR is very loosely based on RL, some of the units are real or planned.


Endwar has about as much resemblance to reality as Red Alert.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:56 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:ENDWAR is very loosely based on RL, some of the units are real or planned.


Endwar has about as much resemblance to reality as Red Alert.

The SPG truck in the article looks pretty identical to Endwar's Enforcer Corps' Artillery unit, and I'm not certain if that IFV with the barrel 'jacket' resembles either Enforce Corps or JSF's IFV.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:57 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:ENDWAR is very loosely based on RL, some of the units are real or planned.


Endwar has about as much resemblance to reality as Red Alert.


D:

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Postby Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:09 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I take it that, with the same advice, there's no issue with a full-power 120mm gun on a light chassis?


That's exactly what the low-recoil tank gun posted last page is. A regular tank gun firing full-power ammo but with more attention given to recoil management.
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Postby Galla- » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:10 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
Endwar has about as much resemblance to reality as Red Alert.

The SPG truck in the article looks pretty identical to Endwar's Enforcer Corps' Artillery unit, and I'm not certain if that IFV with the barrel 'jacket' resembles either Enforce Corps or JSF's IFV.


That's probably because Ubisoft's modellers were using Archer as a reference.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:13 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
Endwar has about as much resemblance to reality as Red Alert.

The SPG truck in the article looks pretty identical to Endwar's Enforcer Corps' Artillery unit, and I'm not certain if that IFV with the barrel 'jacket' resembles either Enforce Corps or JSF's IFV.

well there is the:
-Archer Artillery System (real)
-Quad tilt-rotor heavy VTOL (cancelled)
-Multi-Mission Effects Vehicle (real)
-the helicopters are just more advance RL ones
-I think the US IFV and arty were part of the US army's "Future Combat Systems Manned Ground Vehicles" program
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:47 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The SPG truck in the article looks pretty identical to Endwar's Enforcer Corps' Artillery unit, and I'm not certain if that IFV with the barrel 'jacket' resembles either Enforce Corps or JSF's IFV.

well there is the:
-Archer Artillery System (real)
-Quad tilt-rotor heavy VTOL (cancelled)
-Multi-Mission Effects Vehicle (real)
-the helicopters are just more advance RL ones
-I think the US IFV and arty were part of the US army's "Future Combat Systems Manned Ground Vehicles" program


Neither the artillery nor the IFV designs from the FCS MGV program quite match the US JSF equipment from EndWar. They're broadly similar, in the same way that the Bradley is broadly similar to the Fastback, but otherwise quite different.

This was the FCS MGV IFV design:
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While this was the artillery design, the only one to make it to prototype stage:
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:27 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The SPG truck in the article looks pretty identical to Endwar's Enforcer Corps' Artillery unit, and I'm not certain if that IFV with the barrel 'jacket' resembles either Enforce Corps or JSF's IFV.


The original Red Alert was exactly like that.
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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:11 am

Anomalous Research and Containment wrote:DU penetrators already burst into flames once they've penetrated, and also tend to fragment and spray their hot load all over the crew.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:11 am

Armoured warfare is nothing more than phallic representation of supreme violence.
We know this already :blush:
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:13 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Warfare is nothing more than phallic representation of supreme violence.
We know this already :blush:

Fixed.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:19 am

Well, yes, but armoured warfare especially.
Thrust, penetrator and penetration, weakest at the rear, Fulda Gap, blow your load, injecting burning hatred into your enemy etc etc
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Postby Questers » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:51 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I'm thinking a chassis about half that :S
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Postby Bajireyn » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:18 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Well, yes, but armoured warfare especially.
Thrust, penetrator and penetration, weakest at the rear, Fulda Gap, blow your load, injecting burning hatred into your enemy etc etc

Freud would have a field day with armored warfare terms...
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Postby Anomalous Research and Containment » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:33 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Well, yes, but armoured warfare especially.
Thrust, penetrator and penetration, weakest at the rear, Fulda Gap, blow your load, injecting burning hatred into your enemy etc etc


Actually this isn't normal, believe it or not.

That's actually a symptom of nerve agent exposure, believe it or not.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:44 am

That line was referring to DU (both KEP and HEAT).
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Postby Anomalous Research and Containment » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:47 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:That line was referring to DU (both KEP and HEAT).


Are you saying nerve agents don't cause burning skin?

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:50 am

Some yes, I just had pyrophoricity in my mind.
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Postby The Kievan People » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:52 am

Anomalous Research and Containment wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Well, yes, but armoured warfare especially.
Thrust, penetrator and penetration, weakest at the rear, Fulda Gap, blow your load, injecting burning hatred into your enemy etc etc


Actually this isn't normal, believe it or not.

That's actually a symptom of nerve agent exposure, believe it or not.


No it isn't.
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Postby Orussia » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:59 am

Anomalous Research and Containment wrote:...and spray their hot load all over the crew.

I dun snorted my drink when I read this.
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Postby Galla- » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:00 am

The Kievan People wrote:
Anomalous Research and Containment wrote:
Actually this isn't normal, believe it or not.

That's actually a symptom of nerve agent exposure, believe it or not.


No it isn't.


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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:15 am

Orussia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Technology of Tanks, a $700 tome by Jane's.

yvw

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