Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Mk.IV

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Judging from the design, it's either an early Cold War light tank, or a WWII tank.

[Risen Britannia]

Judging from the design, it's either an early Cold War light tank, or a WWII tank.

I believe its WW2

Also here is an "Update"

I have sort of cheated as I buggered up the track, so I antialised the F out of it so it looks.... ok(ish)

I'm going to have a retry at the tracks later one (I suck at tracks)

[Hladgos]

Judging from the design, it's either an early Cold War light tank, or a WWII tank.

I believe its WW2

Also here is an "Update"

I have sort of cheated as I buggered up the track, so I antialised the F out of it so it looks.... ok(ish)

I'm going to have a retry at the tracks later one (I suck at tracks)

That is a massive gun on such a small tank...

[Immoren]

A design I am doing on request for leos
(Image)
(WIP)
Its armed with a "50mm L50 gun and a coaxial 8mm machine gun"

(I trying my hardest to put off doing the tracks)

I'll be pissed if people say that a 50mm gun is good for your tank while everyone told me that the long 110mm on my DT-20 tank was too insufficient -.-

Nevertheless i love the design, i already had been making a concept with a similar turret shape.

50mm gun is sufficient for recce tank. :I

[Indeos]

I'll be pissed if people say that a 50mm gun is good for your tank while everyone told me that the long 110mm on my DT-20 tank was too insufficient -.-

Nevertheless i love the design, i already had been making a concept with a similar turret shape.

50mm gun is sufficient for recce tank. :I

And probably alright for a WWII tank, even if they usually had larger ones. TBH in MT 50mm would practically be a really really big autocannon.

[Risen Britannia]

I believe its WW2

Also here is an "Update"
(Image)
I have sort of cheated as I buggered up the track, so I antialised the F out of it so it looks.... ok(ish)

I'm going to have a retry at the tracks later one (I suck at tracks)

That is a massive gun on such a small tank...

Its a 50mm L50 gun

50mm gun is sufficient for recce tank. :I

And probably alright for a WWII tank, even if they usually had larger ones. TBH in MT 50mm would practically be a really really big autocannon.

The Panzer III only had a 5cm gun for most of the war, along with quite a few other tanks.

[Immoren]

Otobreda 76 mm(or Otomatic version of it) on recce tank for lulz?

[Indeos]

That is a massive gun on such a small tank...

Its a 50mm L50 gun

And probably alright for a WWII tank, even if they usually had larger ones. TBH in MT 50mm would practically be a really really big autocannon.

The Panzer III only had a 5cm gun for most of the war, along with quite a few other tanks.

Ah. I thought stuff closer to 88mm was relatively "standard". Of course, I'm not a tank guy.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Judging from the design, it's either an early Cold War light tank, or a WWII tank.

I believe its WW2

Also here is an "Update"

I have sort of cheated as I buggered up the track, so I antialised the F out of it so it looks.... ok(ish)

I'm going to have a retry at the tracks later one (I suck at tracks)

Why are the road wheels so lol?
Almost looks like a turreted Hetzer.

Indeos, 88s only became popular in the latter stages of the war, when allied tanks mounted more armour and bigger guns. Just like how until the 70s/80s, the West was content with 105mm guns, until the Russians upgunned to 125mm.

[Risen Britannia]

I believe its WW2

Also here is an "Update"
(Image)
I have sort of cheated as I buggered up the track, so I antialised the F out of it so it looks.... ok(ish)

I'm going to have a retry at the tracks later one (I suck at tracks)

Why are the road wheels so lol?
Almost looks like a turreted Hetzer.

Indeos, 88s only became popular in the latter stages of the war, when allied tanks mounted more armour and bigger guns. Just like how until the 70s/80s, the West was content with 105mm guns, until the Russians upgunned to 125mm.

Because the hull I was asked to base the design on can do this...

[Samozaryadnyastan]

That is a Hetzer

[Risen Britannia]

That is a Hetzer

"The Entwicklung series, more commonly known as the E-series, was a late-World War II attempt by Germany to produce a standardised series of tank designs. There were to be standard designs in six different weight classes, from which several specialised variants were to be developed. This was necessitated by the extremely complex tank designs that had resulted in poor production rates and mechanical unreliability.

The E-series designs were simpler, cheaper to produce and more efficient than their predecessors, however their design involved only modest improvements in armour and firepower over the designs they were intended to replace, such as the Hetzer, Panther G or Tiger II."

[Purpelia]

Sadly they would also have sucked more or less. At least E-100 would. I am not sure about E-75. But I think E-50 might have worked out fine.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

That is a Hetzer

"The Entwicklung series, more commonly known as the E-series, was a late-World War II attempt by Germany to produce a standardised series of tank designs. There were to be standard designs in six different weight classes, from which several specialised variants were to be developed. This was necessitated by the extremely complex tank designs that had resulted in poor production rates and mechanical unreliability.

The E-series designs were simpler, cheaper to produce and more efficient than their predecessors, however their design involved only modest improvements in armour and firepower over the designs they were intended to replace, such as the Hetzer, Panther G or Tiger II."

I saw the similarity in the image to a Hetzer's profile and figured a Hetzer was an E-10.

[Purpelia]

God no. The Hetzer is a Pz 38t, a Czechoslovakian light tank that the Germans took for them self and mass produced with its turret ripped off and a casemate gun attached.

[The Akasha Colony]

"The Entwicklung series, more commonly known as the E-series, was a late-World War II attempt by Germany to produce a standardised series of tank designs. There were to be standard designs in six different weight classes, from which several specialised variants were to be developed. This was necessitated by the extremely complex tank designs that had resulted in poor production rates and mechanical unreliability.

The E-series designs were simpler, cheaper to produce and more efficient than their predecessors, however their design involved only modest improvements in armour and firepower over the designs they were intended to replace, such as the Hetzer, Panther G or Tiger II."

I saw the similarity in the image to a Hetzer's profile and figured a Hetzer was an E-10.

Understandable, given that the Panzer 38(t) that the Hetzer was built on was to be the base of the E-10 design.

[Leos]

yeah the E-10 was supposed to be an upgraded PZ38(t) chassis

[Strykla]

Hey, I just thought of the necessity of a flame tank. I just modified the Warhammer some of you may remember. Here's the flame tank.

....The Warhammer can be modified for any number of missions; one of the more well-known versions of the Warhammer is the ‘Shark’ - Essentially a modern flame tank. While certain versions of the 140mm in the normal Warhammer contains thermobaric materials that are highly effective against garrisoned infantry, the need was realized for a version of the tank that is effective in urban environments. The Shark has an exact same chassis as the Warhammer, but the turret is changed; the ammo magazine for the main gun has been replaced with a 250 gallon pressure tank. It is filled with an advanced form of naphthenic and palmitic acids under high pressure. This ‘napalm’ is then shot out of a modified barrel; much of the space in the barrel is lined with the material Ll-2200, so as to resist the high temperatures. The Grade 5 titanium alloy already had excellent heat capabilities, but prolonged exposure to the 1300-Celcius(+2200F) temperature will warp the barrel and crack the Ll-2200, disrupting the stream. The barrel must be serviced for every 90 seconds of firing, equivalent to roughly 3 250 gallon tanks. The barrel, however, does not need an autoloader, and thus does not stick back into the turret nearly as much. This allows the gun to depress and go up far more than normal; it can go down nearly 15 degrees and up 40 degrees. Because the Shark was made for urban environments, this allows it to reach upper stories in many buildings. Additionally, the napalm has a maximum range of 250 meters; though the rubber on the treads may suffer, the Shark can easily douse a street with napalm and then drive right through.

By necessity, the tanks must be heavily armored. The 250 gallon fuel tank is made of nearly two inches of RHA and an additional 1” layer of ceramic. This can protect against shell fragments that may penetrate the tank, and blowout panels and the regular armor put around the magazine can protect it against a very spectacular explosion, but it is assumed if the Shark’s napalm tanks are penetrated, the tank will be a conflagration. Infantry, obviously, will have a hard time protecting the tank, so instead another remote weapons station is put on the turret, this one AI-controlled to target heat signatures not with IFF tags. The concept is similar to CIWS on ships, though with an infrared, not radar, system.

Google doc here.

[Indeos]

Why are the road wheels so lol?
Almost looks like a turreted Hetzer.

Indeos, 88s only became popular in the latter stages of the war, when allied tanks mounted more armour and bigger guns. Just like how until the 70s/80s, the West was content with 105mm guns, until the Russians upgunned to 125mm.

Because the hull I was asked to base the design on can do this...

Is there a reason tanks aren't made with tracks like the combat position thing? Seems like it'd lower profile a lot. (Though, I suppose dropping the bottom would cause some mobility problems...)

[The Akasha Colony]

Because the hull I was asked to base the design on can do this...
(Image)
(Image)

Is there a reason tanks aren't made with tracks like the combat position thing? Seems like it'd lower profile a lot. (Though, I suppose dropping the bottom would cause some mobility problems...)

Additional mechanical complexity for relatively little benefit. With the drive sprocket and idling wheel now in direct contact with the ground, they too must be given their own suspension systems, as they will now be bearing some of the vehicle's weight, at least when crossing rough terrain. Normally, only the unpowered road wheels carry this burden. The roadwheels also need a more complex suspension than normal in order to allow them to retract that high.

The combat position arrangement here is really just a hull-down configuration; it's not meant to actually drive around the battlefield like that. For a tank-destroyer like the Hetzer, which is designed to lie in ambush, it's a useful ability, but in a general purpose tank, less so. Offensive operations will never require it, and in defensive operations, the tank's own turret will add far more height than the tracks.

[Leos]

i never intened for the tank to do that but i just liked the way it looked

[Risen Britannia]

for those interested here is a cross section

[Purpelia]

Considering that sloped armor was well known and used even prior to WW1 (The French used it a lot for one) how feasible would you rate a Panther like tank being created in the late 30's. As in, instead of the Panzer IV. Noting of course that by panther like I mean the shape and NOT the actual specifications of the vehicle which would in my case be a diffrent type of tank anyway.

[Leos]

seems feasable

[The Akasha Colony]

Considering that sloped armor was well known and used even prior to WW1 (The French used it a lot for one) how feasible would you rate a Panther like tank being created in the late 30's. As in, instead of the Panzer IV. Noting of course that by panther like I mean the shape and NOT the actual specifications of the vehicle which would in my case be a diffrent type of tank anyway.

Not unfeasible, as sloped armor was already being used by a few nations as you noted. Of course, the rest of the specs, as you also noted, would take a bit longer to develop and field.