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Postby Minnysota » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:39 pm

Radictistan wrote:I understand that it's built on a superheavy tank chassis, it just seems odd to have a SPAAG/TELAR that can't be air transported except one per An-124. I hope you have something lighter for when you need rapid deployment.


I think he uses the AA version of the WMAV for this.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:24 am

I'm not sure I've actually seen the SHORADS WMAV. Is it in your storefront, or on Linc?
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:44 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I'm not sure I've actually seen the SHORADS WMAV. Is it in your storefront, or on Linc?


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Yes, it doesn't have tracks. Deal with it.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:51 am

Why should I dwi?
Wheeled vehicles with the armament of MBT families are glory.
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:56 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Why should I dwi?
Wheeled vehicles with the armament of MBT families are glory.


that was directed at the people who whined and complained last time

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:15 am

Ah.
Also, I had seen it before, I just had visions of you having plonked the IFDE's turret onto the WMAV :P
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:35 am

Gawdzendia wrote:Besides, now that I'm working on getting that 280mm Artillery piece on a mobile platform, it'll probably get named Godhammer, whereas the 165mm will probably get named... something less silly,

'Demigodhammer'? :p
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:43 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Ah.
Also, I had seen it before, I just had visions of you having plonked the IFDE's turret onto the WMAV :P


That's... tempting. -.-

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:02 am

I am tempted to put my HAV-3 turret on the HAV-1 for lulz, if I ever get around to linearting the two.
FYI, my HAV-3 is this (minus the silly bit about anti-gravity rounds): http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/7/12 ... al_art.jpg and the HAV-1 is basically something the size of an AMX-10RC.
Incidentally, the HAV-3 is just a HAV-2 hull with that turret, so the HAV-2 will have that hull.
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Gawdzendia wrote:Besides, now that I'm working on getting that 280mm Artillery piece on a mobile platform, it'll probably get named Godhammer, whereas the 165mm will probably get named... something less silly,

'Demigodhammer'? :p

DemiGodgavel, I think :P

Or maybe just Godgavel.
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Postby Immoren » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:53 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Why should I dwi?
Wheeled vehicles with the armament of MBT families are glory.


that was directed at the people who whined and complained last time

I was just joking when you last time posted them. :<

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I feel like an idiot asking this, because I found out I have read about oscillating turrets before. :palm:
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:54 am

WW2 tech so we use a PanzerIV
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:26 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Gawdzendia wrote:Besides, now that I'm working on getting that 280mm Artillery piece on a mobile platform, it'll probably get named Godhammer, whereas the 165mm will probably get named... something less silly,

'Demigodhammer'? :p

God Mallet?
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:27 am

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:'Demigodhammer'? :p

God Mallet?
God Gavel?
God's Upholstery Hammer?

Deific Ball-Peen?



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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:29 am

The A7+ package, and the 140/L50 gun.
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:36 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The A7+ package, and the 140/L50 gun.

Would giving it an Abrams engine help too? (Ignoring any structural redesign problems) 'Cause can't that work on almost any type of fuel, thus helping a bit with supply lines in extreme circumstances.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:38 am

Can't remember if the AGT-1500 is bigger or smaller than a conventional diesel.
But yes, if you can burn it, a turbine can run on it.
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Postby Licana » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:40 am

I don't see using nonstandard fuel as being that big of an advantage, tbh. I'd keep the diesel.

That being said, use glorious Leopard Revolution or Evolution if you want a Leo 2 that is MADE FOR FIGHT!! D:<
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:43 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Can't remember if the AGT-1500 is bigger or smaller than a conventional diesel.
But yes, if you can burn it, a turbine can run on it.

"Private Mackenzie! Hand me your alcohol, it is for the good of the platoon!"

And would something like the TRT-25 work in the RWS? I'm guessing it might be a bit too big, but the 30mm cannon would definitely be a help against lighter vehicles which wouldn't warrant the power of the 140mm, and it still comes with a 7.62 MMG for use against infantry.
Licana wrote:That being said, use glorious Leopard Revolution or Evolution if you want a Leo 2 that is MADE FOR FIGHT!! D:<

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:47 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Can't remember if the AGT-1500 is bigger or smaller than a conventional diesel.
But yes, if you can burn it, a turbine can run on it.


My guess it's smaller than a conventional diesel of the time it was introduced, which is the late 1970s/early 1980s. Modern diesels such as the EuroPowerPack have caught up in volume to power, but newer-model gas turbines like the LV100-5 and LV50-2 have much greater power densities, lower displacements, and improved fuel efficiency, approaching 50% within their optimum power band.
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Postby Licana » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:48 am

Kouralia wrote:
Licana wrote:That being said, use glorious Leopard Revolution or Evolution if you want a Leo 2 that is MADE FOR FIGHT!! D:<

What're these?

Leopard 2A4 that was overhauled by Rheinmetall and IBD Deisenroth (respectively).

I can't access any of the small amount of information on them atm because my school has web-blockers made of tyranny.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:59 am

I think Crookfur or someone has posted a pdf on at least one of the R/Evolution pair.
Just search this thread for "leopard evolution" and "leopard revolution". Or even just Evolution or Revolution on their own, i can't imagine them being that common within this thread.
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Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Can't remember if the AGT-1500 is bigger or smaller than a conventional diesel.
But yes, if you can burn it, a turbine can run on it.

"Private Mackenzie! Hand me your alcohol, it is for the good of the platoon!"

And would something like the TRT-25 work in the RWS? I'm guessing it might be a bit too big, but the 30mm cannon would definitely be a help against lighter vehicles which wouldn't warrant the power of the 140mm, and it still comes with a 7.62 MMG for use against infantry.
Licana wrote:That being said, use glorious Leopard Revolution or Evolution if you want a Leo 2 that is MADE FOR FIGHT!! D:<

What're these?

Well, I put a TRT-25 alike on my HAV-2, but even I was too concerned about the size of it and retconned it to being 70cm tall instead of a metre.

I feel it will probably be too large. However, I'd suggest trying to shoehorn in a 25 or 30mm gun as a coaxial, and have a 14.5mm machine gun as the commander's RWS. 14.5x114 is about twice as powerful as BMG.
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Postby Crookfur » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 am

Kouralia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The A7+ package, and the 140/L50 gun.

Would giving it an Abrams engine help too? (Ignoring any structural redesign problems) 'Cause can't that work on almost any type of fuel, thus helping a bit with supply lines in extreme circumstances.


Just about anythign you would ever realsitically consdier feeding to an AGT-1500 you could porbably feed to the MTU plants found on Leo 2s.

of coruse you should be adopting the NATO ideal of having everything running on JP8.

Biggest issue with the switch from a reciprocating ICE to a turbine is the gear box, your turbine engine itself will be much smaller but its gear box will be a fair bit bigger than the one for a conventional engine.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:06 am

Kouralia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Can't remember if the AGT-1500 is bigger or smaller than a conventional diesel.
But yes, if you can burn it, a turbine can run on it.

"Private Mackenzie! Hand me your alcohol, it is for the good of the platoon!"

Has to be at least 100% proof in order to burn, otherwise the water content is too high...
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Postby Sieen » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:10 am

While the Republican Guard employs a ridiculously small division of the E-190 Paladin from the Russo-Spanish Empire (now a Republic); the bulk of Saracen armored divisions are comprised of this.

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Postby Kouralia » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:19 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Kouralia wrote:"Private Mackenzie! Hand me your alcohol, it is for the good of the platoon!"

Has to be at least 100% proof in order to burn, otherwise the water content is too high...

He's Scottish. It'll burn.

(no offence intended to any Scottish people out there)
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