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Postby United States of PA » Tue May 10, 2011 1:27 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Licana wrote:How Heavy is it? What's the dimensions? How long is the 125mm main gun?

Why is there both a pilot and a driver? Why do you need a EMW specialist?

V-100?? I hope to god that this is a model name, and not configuration (would be lolhuge). Also, you definitely don't need two of them.

You have no dense material in your armour, a KEP will tear right through it.

Also, a blurb would be nice, it helps to explain what you're conceptulizing.

KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.



Punch through a meter of armor at 6000m.

ERFB for the win.


@Indeos:

This is the tank thread, not a helicopter one, guys. I eventually need to start adopting tanks/IFVs/SPAs/what have you, any suggestions for that stuff?


viewtopic.php?p=5365190#p5365190
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=76892&hilit=M8

MBTs.

Also have a SPH

viewtopic.php?p=5603326#p5603326

And a Heavy Tank

viewtopic.php?p=5603346#p5603346

All of them are Obscure, so fucking obscure there are only 300 in existence outside of my own nation.
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Postby Anastasia Romanova » Tue May 10, 2011 1:32 pm

Here you go.

The new (reasonable) X-9 MBT.
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Postby Sol Core Federation » Tue May 10, 2011 1:37 pm

Sol Core Federation wrote:M707B Ridgeway Main Battle Tank

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wKWFulxficg/S ... Tank+5.jpg - image courtesy of Google image search. And yes, I know the image doesn’t match up perfectly with the stats but I’d prefer not to see how my horrible MS paint skills transfer over to 3D.

The M707B Ridgeway Main Battle Tank was developed fifteen years ago as the successor to the aging M706A5 Scorpion MBT. The M707B Ridgeway uses a 60 mW Hydrogen fuel cell. The Ridgeway's armor is made up of two primary layers; an outer layer of Electromagnetic Armor and an inner of Tirtainium, giving it incredible protection against everything short of a direct hit from a heavy anti-tank weapon or the main gun of another heavy tank.

Armed with a 140mm auto-loading magnetically accelerated cannon in an automated turret, two secondary automated turrets with a standard loadout of a 70 kW free-electron lasers and Typhoon autocannon, scatterable mines and several integrated 60mm mortars, hydropneumatic suspension, Electromagnetic armor, N45 Multi-sensor Target Acquisition Sensor, CDC ADA based fire control system, lightweight track, advanced chemical agent alarm, NBC collective protection system and a Vehicle Integrated Defense System with countermeasures, threat sensors and smoke. The tank is equipped with an automatic Kedian fire extinguishing system which is activated within 2 milliseconds of a fire outbreak and extinguishes a fire within 100 milliseconds.

The automated turret holds the 120mm auto loading anti-tank gun which has a standard muzzle energy of 150MJ and a reload time of 4 seconds and standard recharge time of 15 seconds. With ammunition separated from the crew compartment by an armored blowout bulkhead crew survivability greatly increases.

The three-man crew is seated in an armored capsule inside the hull of the tank. With supplies and lavatory for 220 hours of combat operations the crew each crewman is linked to the tank’s system by their neural interfaces, as a back up each has 7 LCD screens providing data over the integrated combat network and by exterior high-resolution cameras with light-intensification and infrared sensors, an infrared laser rangefinder, and an integrated Electronic Support Measures array. Millimeter wave radar allows gun engagements on attack helos using airbursting rounds.

The Ridgway can run with a crew of two but in practice three are used, a Commander, Loader and Driver.

Specifications

Weight: 66.4 metric tons.
Length: 11 meters.
Width: 4.2 meters.
Height (counting secondary turrets): 2.7 meters.
Crew: Minimum of 1, 3 for optimal efficiency (Commander, Loader and Driver).
Primary Armament: 120mm gauss cannon (100 rounds ammo).
Secondary (Configurable):
  • Several 60mm mortars.
  • 70 kW free-electron laser point defense guns.
  • 25mm Typhoon auto cannons.
  • Plasma Cannon.
  • Heavy flame throwers.
Armor: Electromagnetic Armor (outer layer), Tirtainium Armor (inner layer) in whipple layers.
Shields: 24x Heavy Grav-Barrier Emitters.
Power Plant: 60 mW Hydrogen fuel cell.
Suspension: hydropneumatic
Clearance: 0.60 meters.
Range: 1246 km
Max. Speed (Road): 82 km/h.
Max. Speed (Off-road): 49 km/h.
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue May 10, 2011 1:45 pm

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Postby Licana » Tue May 10, 2011 1:46 pm

Sol Core Federation wrote:M707B Ridgeway Main Battle Tank

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wKWFulxficg/S ... Tank+5.jpg - image courtesy of Google image search. And yes, I know the image doesn’t match up perfectly with the stats but I’d prefer not to see how my horrible MS paint skills transfer over to 3D.

The M707B Ridgeway Main Battle Tank was developed fifteen years ago as the successor to the aging M706A5 Scorpion MBT. The M707B Ridgeway uses a 60 mW Hydrogen fuel cell. The Ridgeway's armor is made up of two primary layers; an outer layer of Electromagnetic Armor and an inner of Tirtainium, giving it incredible protection against everything short of a direct hit from a heavy anti-tank weapon or the main gun of another heavy tank.

Armed with a 140mm auto-loading magnetically accelerated cannon in an automated turret, two secondary automated turrets with a standard loadout of a 70 kW free-electron lasers and Typhoon autocannon, scatterable mines and several integrated 60mm mortars, hydropneumatic suspension, Electromagnetic armor, N45 Multi-sensor Target Acquisition Sensor, CDC ADA based fire control system, lightweight track, advanced chemical agent alarm, NBC collective protection system and a Vehicle Integrated Defense System with countermeasures, threat sensors and smoke. The tank is equipped with an automatic Kedian fire extinguishing system which is activated within 2 milliseconds of a fire outbreak and extinguishes a fire within 100 milliseconds.

The automated turret holds the 120mm auto loading anti-tank gun which has a standard muzzle energy of 150MJ and a reload time of 4 seconds and standard recharge time of 15 seconds. With ammunition separated from the crew compartment by an armored blowout bulkhead crew survivability greatly increases.

The three-man crew is seated in an armored capsule inside the hull of the tank. With supplies and lavatory for 220 hours of combat operations the crew each crewman is linked to the tank’s system by their neural interfaces, as a back up each has 7 LCD screens providing data over the integrated combat network and by exterior high-resolution cameras with light-intensification and infrared sensors, an infrared laser rangefinder, and an integrated Electronic Support Measures array. Millimeter wave radar allows gun engagements on attack helos using airbursting rounds.

The Ridgway can run with a crew of two but in practice three are used, a Commander, Loader and Driver.

Specifications

Weight: 66.4 metric tons.
Length: 11 meters.
Width: 4.2 meters.
Height (counting secondary turrets): 2.7 meters.
Crew: Minimum of 1, 3 for optimal efficiency (Commander, Loader and Driver).
Primary Armament: 120mm gauss cannon (100 rounds ammo).
Secondary (Configurable):
  • Several 60mm mortars.
  • 70 kW free-electron laser point defense guns.
  • 25mm Typhoon auto cannons.
  • Plasma Cannon.
  • Heavy flame throwers.
Armor: Electromagnetic Armor (outer layer), Tirtainium Armor (inner layer) in whipple layers.
Shields: 24x Heavy Grav-Barrier Emitters.
Power Plant: 60 mW Hydrogen fuel cell.
Suspension: hydropneumatic
Clearance: 0.60 meters.
Range: 1246 km
Max. Speed (Road): 82 km/h.
Max. Speed (Off-road): 49 km/h.

No way your shoving 100 rounds in there, there's a discrepancy in your write up (says it uses a 140mm, statblock says 120mm). Additionally, you don't go over a lot of the features of this tank in anyway other than naming them.
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Thonian MBT

Postby Thonia » Tue May 10, 2011 1:52 pm

Thonian MBT-
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/227509

If rail guns are not allowed for your MBT, its this one:

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Postby Indeos » Tue May 10, 2011 2:21 pm

United States of PA wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.



Punch through a meter of armor at 6000m.

ERFB for the win.


@Indeos:

This is the tank thread, not a helicopter one, guys. I eventually need to start adopting tanks/IFVs/SPAs/what have you, any suggestions for that stuff?


viewtopic.php?p=5365190#p5365190
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=76892&hilit=M8

MBTs.

Also have a SPH

viewtopic.php?p=5603326#p5603326

And a Heavy Tank

viewtopic.php?p=5603346#p5603346

All of them are Obscure, so fucking obscure there are only 300 in existence outside of my own nation.


I'll read and think about it. You generally know your stuff, so I'm sure they'll be good. Too bad there's no IFV.
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Postby Axis Nova » Tue May 10, 2011 3:07 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Licana wrote:How Heavy is it? What's the dimensions? How long is the 125mm main gun?

Why is there both a pilot and a driver? Why do you need a EMW specialist?

V-100?? I hope to god that this is a model name, and not configuration (would be lolhuge). Also, you definitely don't need two of them.

You have no dense material in your armour, a KEP will tear right through it.

Also, a blurb would be nice, it helps to explain what you're conceptulizing.

KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.


Punch through jack shit because your opponent's tank has electric reactive armor.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Tue May 10, 2011 3:08 pm

Axis Nova wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.


Punch through jack shit because your opponent's tank has electric reactive armor.

electric armour is purely PMT.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Tue May 10, 2011 3:08 pm

Axis Nova wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.


Punch through jack shit because your opponent's tank has electric reactive armor.


That's like ATS silly, though. I'll believe it when I see it, tbh. Same amount as silly as the entire OFW programme.
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Postby Tehraan » Tue May 10, 2011 3:41 pm

Screw PMT stuff like electric reaction army to stop HEAT rounds. Spaced composite armor is efficient with less technobable required.

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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Tue May 10, 2011 3:43 pm

Axis Nova wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.


Punch through jack shit because your opponent's tank has electric reactive armor.


Doesn't actually work, and has quickly been dropped from development for this reason.

Might as well use fairy dust as armour, it has the same effect.
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Postby Axis Nova » Tue May 10, 2011 3:44 pm

Actually, it does work-- the UK stuck the stuff on an APC and fired a bunch of RPGs at it, and it stopped every single one.

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Postby Dostanuot Loj » Tue May 10, 2011 3:49 pm

Axis Nova wrote:Actually, it does work-- the UK stuck the stuff on an APC and fired a bunch of RPGs at it, and it stopped every single one.


I've seen the DoD reports, it actually didn't make much difference. Much of the perforation was absorbed by the vehicle's base armour and stand-off for the ELRA panels. The conclusion of every analysis ended with the ELRS giving no added protection. This is why government funding was cut off, quite harshly, in 2007.

You can argue AN, but you're wrong. It doesn't work, and the MoD dropped it like a hot potato because of this, years ago.
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Postby Senestrum » Tue May 10, 2011 4:21 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Licana wrote:How Heavy is it? What's the dimensions? How long is the 125mm main gun?

Why is there both a pilot and a driver? Why do you need a EMW specialist?

V-100?? I hope to god that this is a model name, and not configuration (would be lolhuge). Also, you definitely don't need two of them.

You have no dense material in your armour, a KEP will tear right through it.

Also, a blurb would be nice, it helps to explain what you're conceptulizing.

KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.

Modern KEPs only have marginal drops in penetration at the ranges they're accurate at.

Also, how are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".
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Postby Indeos » Tue May 10, 2011 4:23 pm

Senestrum wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:KEPs are for cowards. Real men go HEAT for constant penetration regardless of distance. Punch through a meter of armour at 500m, punch through a meter at 1000m, and punch through a meter of armour at 2000m.

Modern KEPs only have marginal drops in penetration at the ranges they're accurate at.

Also, how are KEPs cowardly? Surely the "real man" would in fact be the one firing giant rods of nuclear waste at speeds best described as "hilarious".


The real man is the one charging the tanks, a sword in his hand and a shout tearing out of his throat.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Tue May 10, 2011 4:55 pm

Tehraan wrote:Screw PMT stuff like electric reaction army to stop HEAT rounds. Spaced composite armor is efficient with less technobable required.


And it actually works and isn't from ATS.

P. much everything on ATS should be taken with mountains of salt.
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Postby United States of PA » Tue May 10, 2011 5:31 pm

Indeos wrote:
I'll read and think about it. You generally know your stuff, so I'm sure they'll be good. Too bad there's no IFV.


IFV was in the works, until my fucking computer got another virus, so i dont have access to what i have started so far.

It was also a BMPT rip with a small troop compartment mainly for Spare Ammo and heavy weapons, might be able to fit 4 dismounts if your lucky.

Everyone else can ride on top or in the APCs following for the most part behind.
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Postby Indeos » Tue May 10, 2011 5:48 pm

United States of PA wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I'll read and think about it. You generally know your stuff, so I'm sure they'll be good. Too bad there's no IFV.


IFV was in the works, until my fucking computer got another virus, so i dont have access to what i have started so far.

It was also a BMPT rip with a small troop compartment mainly for Spare Ammo and heavy weapons, might be able to fit 4 dismounts if your lucky.

Everyone else can ride on top or in the APCs following for the most part behind.


That might work, but I think for an IFV I'm gonna go for more dismounts/space.
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Postby United States of PA » Tue May 10, 2011 6:06 pm

ride on top.

problem solved.

Afterall, IFVs are mostly used for carrying some of the squads weapons.
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby Indeos » Tue May 10, 2011 6:07 pm

United States of PA wrote:ride on top.

problem solved.

Afterall, IFVs are mostly used for carrying some of the squads weapons.


Eh, I need to completely mechanize the imperial army and it seems easier just to use assloads of IFVs.
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Postby United States of PA » Tue May 10, 2011 6:12 pm

IFVs are doctrinally used to support the troops in their fight, while APCs are supposed to be used to ferry said troops around.

Even the US Army, with its lol number of Bradleys, still uses a lot of M113s. (Last number i heard was like 6,000-7,000 Brads vs almost 20,000 M113s of all types)
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby United States of PA » Tue May 10, 2011 6:15 pm

Actually, mistake, its about a 1.2-3 M113 to M2 Bradley Ratio.


2,000 of the Bradleys in existence arent true IFVs, their Scouting Vehicles.

Something like 4,500 to 6,000.
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby Indeos » Tue May 10, 2011 6:17 pm

United States of PA wrote:IFVs are doctrinally used to support the troops in their fight, while APCs are supposed to be used to ferry said troops around.

Even the US Army, with its lol number of Bradleys, still uses a lot of M113s. (Last number i heard was like 6,000-7,000 Brads vs almost 20,000 M113s of all types)


It seems like they're vehicles that are getting more similar, but w/e. I don't really know too much about them.
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Postby United States of PA » Tue May 10, 2011 6:21 pm

Indeos wrote:
United States of PA wrote:IFVs are doctrinally used to support the troops in their fight, while APCs are supposed to be used to ferry said troops around.

Even the US Army, with its lol number of Bradleys, still uses a lot of M113s. (Last number i heard was like 6,000-7,000 Brads vs almost 20,000 M113s of all types)


It seems like they're vehicles that are getting more similar, but w/e. I don't really know too much about them.


It really is just a use thing, though, due to doctrine, APCs are generally less armored, and less well armed, to give it greater internal space. See M113 vs M2. M113 carries the same but is significantly lighter than the M2, despite carrying a similar number of dismounts.

As i said, APCs are meant to carry troops from one section of the battlefield to another, while a IFV is mainly meant to carry additional weapons into battle and support said troops with its heavier armament.
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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