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Nazi Centauri wrote:

Fegeleinland wrote:
Ah
Allen hagel Fredeick the great

Cousin to one of our greatest officers, Generalfeldmarschal(Retired) Johanness Erich Von Fegelein

Bringen sie mir fegelein (hi cousin fegel) FEGELEIN! FEGELEIN!! FEGELEIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i use the Ottoman class Supreme carrier
over three times as large as a nimitz class it is the best (non god mode) aircraft carrier ever made
using 800 aircraft and 200 helicopters it is a terifying foe
defensive systems are classified and it has a highly trained crew

When I sink it, you will lose a thousand aircraft and tens of thousands of men and one ludicrously expensive warships. In the Navy, "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" rings especially true. Supermassive aircraft carriers are just supermassive targets, when ships can be engaged and sunk from thousands of miles away by long-range missile, or by near-invisible stealth submarines.

Mektavia wrote:The mainstay of the mektavian MT navy is the Nihilus class battlecruiser


http://www.cityofart.net/bship/hms_hood_engaging.jpg

The Nihilus class shown is the MAS wolfen, first of it's kind to be put to service, it has a compliment of 2 14 inch cannons for ship to ship warfare, 4 8 inch guns for anti-aircraft duties, and 4 torpedo launchers on the front and rear of the ship.

8 inch guns for anti-aircraft? The round will be too slow to engage aircraft, and the gun's rate of fire will be far too low to make a convincing anti-aircraft emplacement. Use autocannons in the 20-120mm range at varying levels. A good setup might be the American 20mm Phalanx, various types of Swedish 40 and 57mm Bofors mounts and the Italian 76mm Otobreda (which can maintain a rate of fire of 120rpm over short bursts, which is impressive for a weapon firing rounds of the size it does). Then back these up with surface-to-air missiles. Since the Bofors and Otobredas will be capable of targeting light surface ships, it leaves your 14 inch guns (I assume you mean two turrets, not two guns) free to target enemy capital ships. However, ship-to-ship missiles will be capable of engaging at much longer ranges and doing more damage.

No space ships.

Crap...
Serapis-class dreadnought,more detalis latrer.

Even though we're a rather pacific country, we do take some precautions.

Our primary warship is The Yamato Class Destroyer "Baependy".

Immoren wrote:No space ships.

Crap. I'm an FT player.

Srry.

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:When I sink it, you will lose a thousand aircraft and tens of thousands of men and one ludicrously expensive warships. In the Navy, "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" rings especially true. Supermassive aircraft carriers are just supermassive targets, when ships can be engaged and sunk from thousands of miles away by long-range missile, or by near-invisible stealth submarines

ever hear of missle defense systems? or aircraft that can spot submerged subs?

Switzstoniaberanyland wrote:

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:When I sink it, you will lose a thousand aircraft and tens of thousands of men and one ludicrously expensive warships. In the Navy, "the bigger they are, the harder they fall" rings especially true. Supermassive aircraft carriers are just supermassive targets, when ships can be engaged and sunk from thousands of miles away by long-range missile, or by near-invisible stealth submarines

ever hear of missle defense systems? or aircraft that can spot submerged subs?

and our military is funded by Lemon Cheese who even though its 2012 has a deathstar that doubles as a naval ship

I use the Emily class battleship
the ES-Empress is the Empress's flagship and can out run anything in the world and if it gets cornered she has the DSP (Dragovichland Socialist Party) the worlds greatest commandos to defend the ship and she mounts 8 16in guns in double turrets (6 after the GGR conflict) with 18 inch armor and now mounting for primary armorment 8 NS-5 Grand missle batteries she is a modern ship with a bit of an old feel (an added bounus long range anti sub equipment) she may not be a combat ship but the ES-Empress is tough girl that should not be underestimated

As many previously said, there are two ways to answer this question.

If "primary" means most numerous, then the workhorse of the ZMSDF could be said to be the Dragoon-class Strike Cruiser.


The Dragoon Class uses vertical-launch missile systems. Their CIC data allows them to launch both SSMs and SAMs, including the Ultra Hedghog, a non-nuclear anti-submarine missile using MLRV-style technology.

However, if "primary" means most important, then we are talking about the three Leonard Scamwell-Class Command Ships, based on the Sea Shadow class of the US Navy.

Such ships are armed, again, with VLMs. The high-stability SWATH design of the ships allows them incredible precision and rapid acceleration, making pinning down the ships non-visually difficult. Given their ability to attack from over the horizon and move before the missiles have hit their mark, they are highly important in anti-submarine warfare, provided their squadron's compliment of helicopters are deployed (or that the submarines are in one of the stationary SMBG sonar bands.)

The "Primary" warship of the Alekseevskayan navy is the Hyperion-Class Cruiser, Manufactured by Drekari Shipyards.

I understood primary as a the backbone. Not as the capital Ship.

Republica Federal de Catalunya wrote:I understood primary as a the backbone. Not as the capital Ship.

yes its what he meant
but some countries have massive dreadnaughts as the most numerous or backbone of the fleet

This ban on spacecraft is unfair and illogical as far as I can see...

Lemonius wrote:This ban on spacecraft is unfair and illogical as far as I can see...

Though that's what the OP said, so it goes.

Lemonius wrote:This ban on spacecraft is unfair and illogical as far as I can see...

Indeed.

Maltropia wrote:

Lemonius wrote:This ban on spacecraft is unfair and illogical as far as I can see...

Though that's what the OP said, so it goes.

Never said it didn't, just see it as unfair...
One day we shall strike you all down for such closed-mindedness..

Although I suppose this may be a good reason to actually get designing a sea-navy vessel or two..

Lemonius wrote:

Maltropia wrote:Though that's what the OP said, so it goes.

Never said it didn't, just see it as unfair...
One day we shall strike you all down for such closed-mindedness..

Although I suppose this may be a good reason to actually get designing a sea-navy vessel or two..

Hey, nothing stops you from making a thread for spaceships. I don't doubt there's demand for it. Heck, if I had the time to make an FT version of my nation as well (I've some vague ideas worked out, not much else) I'd be clamouring for spaceships too.

Meanwhile I've slipped out of the room and avoided conflict. Another Victory for The People's Republic of Stalliongrad.

Well, the Neorian Naval Command has many "primary" warships, filling different roles and responsibilities.
These vessels are used the most when my nation is at war.....

Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Terratories wrote:Meanwhile I've slipped out of the room and avoided conflict. Another Victory for The People's Republic of Stalliongrad.

not so fast *Dragovichland and centuari grab you by the arms* now lets have a nice talk about your country
*brings you to conferance room forces you to sit down.* *then everone behaves like steryotypical british gentlemen*
may i intersest you in some chinese tea?

Lemonius wrote:This ban on spacecraft is unfair and illogical as far as I can see...

No, not really. This is for "wet" navy contrasts and comparisons. Much like the armoured vehicle thread where tanks couldn't be compared to 'video game' mechas, and where they had seperate threads, it is impossible to compare a death star to a destroyer. Kinda like trying to compare a dreadnaught to a trireme. If you want an FT space navy thread, then make one.

Fegeleinland wrote:

Republica Federal de Catalunya wrote:I understood primary as a the backbone. Not as the capital Ship.

yes its what he meant
but some countries have massive dreadnaughts as the most numerous or backbone of the fleet

A ok. The backbone of mine is cheaper. DDGs, FFGs, SSKs and A lot anfibian ships. for me CVNs are part of the Capital ship lists.