Your Nation's Main Battle Mech (No Tanks)

[Eahland]

OOC:

For starters, Kilometers per hour =/= Miles per hour. 60 Miles per hour is roughly 96 Kilometers per Hour, the only Mech that can match that speed is a light mech, the Raven.

Eh, plenty of mechs that'll match or exceed that. My merc company's got two Phoenix Hawks and a Javelin that move the same speed as a Raven, and a Jenner that tops out at 110 km/h. And we're playing in 3025. Get into Clan era and recovered tech and Clan tech, and it's pretty practical to get heavies up to 90 km/h, and any medium that isn't doing at least 80 km/h is doing something wrong.

Still can't match hovercraft, though... our J. Edgar hover cruises at 110. Flank speed is in excess of 170 km/h.

Now, as for the weight; that's where I start getting confused. These stats were taken from the Battletech equivalents of the mechs, but I modified them slightly. The weight was the part where I raised an eyebrow, I decided it would be best to leave them on the part of believing that the designers of battletech knew what they were doing. I will probably modify these to be more realistic; but only for some mechs. Got any suggestions for the weight? I would greatly appreciate a point in the right direction if I am going to redo the weight statistics.

I love me some BattleTech - I've been playing for 27 years now, long enough that I can claim that the Clans wrecked the game - but, man, the tonnages are completely wack. I've done the math, using some of the 1/48 scale models I've got and BattleTech tonnage figures, and... not only is the ground pressure thing that mech-haters go on about a total non-issue, most battlemechs should float in water. Seriously. Not only is your Atlas not going to sink into the pavement, the frickin' thing can do the backfloat.

The only sane theory I've been able to come up with is that myomer fiber is really light but bulky, and so those mechs are a basically a thin super-alloy skeleton wrapped in fluff, with a layer of super-strong foil armor wrapped around that, and some weapons strapped on.

More reasonably, they got a zero shot off their tonnage numbers during the Succession Wars...

Oh, and this is why I love the Atlas so much, it's just "one of those" Mechs, thought I'd share my thoughts.
Note: That's a Timberwolf (Or a vulture, it's pretty banged up, difficult to tell), getting it's pilot canopy being smashed in by the Atlas' fist.

It's a Vulture. Sic semper clanners.

[Omaska]

The L5 Gigante (Spanish for 'gigantic') is a highly armoured, powerful and maneuverable Omaskan Battle Walker used by the Confederate Armed Forces.

What the L5 Gigante Battlewalker loses in forward velocity, it makes up for ten-fold in offensive potency and scope. The bipedal configuration of this next generation assault unit enables it to traverse almost all terrains while its elevated vantage point, providing long distance viewing and multi-directional targeting, gives it a significant advantage over low height, horizontally-based agents. Manned by two occupants, the Battlewalker is outfitted with an array of weaponry, including two rapid-fire cannons and a dual-arena, infrared homing missile system. The Battlewalker armor is multi-layered, combining steel and reinforced plastic laminates with kinetic energy and heat absorbing materials. An automatic Active Defense System assists in resisting off air and ground fired rocket attacks.

The Gigante was inspired by the Minroz's 'T1' Battle Walker, which would eventually be developed into the T-39 Baghatur. Whilst Minroz has long had the more advanced Battle Walkers, the latest versions of the Gigante are up to the standard of their counterparts by the outbreak of The Cold War.

At long range, the Gigante's AV missiles snake around less than the Baghatur, giving it a slight advantage. But Gigante are expansive comparing to their Minrozian counterparts due to sophisticated production.

Specifications
Weaponry
• Two mounted Gatling guns
• Infrared Missile System
• One mounted Anti Aircraft/Anti Infantry MG
• MG mounted EMP infrared missile system

Armour
• Steel + Reinforced Plastic laminates
• Outer Layered Insulating Materials

Defences
• ADS

Capacity
• One pilot
• One gunner

Propulsion
• Two reinforced piston operated legs
• One high powered drive engine

[Ularn]

(Image)

The L5 Gigante (Spanish for 'gigantic') is a highly armoured, powerful and maneuverable Omaskan Battle Walker used by the Confederate Armed Forces.

What the L5 Gigante Battlewalker loses in forward velocity, it makes up for ten-fold in offensive potency and scope. The bipedal configuration of this next generation assault unit enables it to traverse almost all terrains while its elevated vantage point, providing long distance viewing and multi-directional targeting, gives it a significant advantage over low height, horizontally-based agents. Manned by two occupants, the Battlewalker is outfitted with an array of weaponry, including two rapid-fire cannons and a dual-arena, infrared homing missile system. The Battlewalker armor is multi-layered, combining steel and reinforced plastic laminates with kinetic energy and heat absorbing materials. An automatic Active Defense System assists in resisting off air and ground fired rocket attacks.

The Gigante was inspired by the Minroz's 'T1' Battle Walker, which would eventually be developed into the T-39 Baghatur. Whilst Minroz has long had the more advanced Battle Walkers, the latest versions of the Gigante are up to the standard of their counterparts by the outbreak of The Cold War.

At long range, the Gigante's AV missiles snake around less than the Baghatur, giving it a slight advantage. But Gigante are expansive comparing to their Minrozian counterparts due to sophisticated production.

Specifications
Weaponry
• Two mounted Gatling guns
• Infrared Missile System
• One mounted Anti Aircraft/Anti Infantry MG
• MG mounted EMP infrared missile system

Armour
• Steel + Reinforced Plastic laminates
• Outer Layered Insulating Materials

Defences
• ADS

Capacity
• One pilot
• One gunner

Propulsion
• Two reinforced piston operated legs
• One high powered drive engine

I like the look of this one; the body sort of resembles a tank turret so I can imagine the front armour being able to take a fair bit of punishment and since you've not given it any overpowered weapons like a tank gun it won't have a problem with the recoil. I can see it being effective in low density conflicts where the main opposition's going to be from infantry, while the missiles can probably deal with aircraft quite nicely as well. It's only main problem will be if it comes up against an actual tanks so as long as it has some sort of non-mech unit for support in those cases it will probably do nicely.

[Bajireyn]

(Image)

The L5 Gigante (Spanish for 'gigantic') is a highly armoured, powerful and maneuverable Omaskan Battle Walker used by the Confederate Armed Forces.

What the L5 Gigante Battlewalker loses in forward velocity, it makes up for ten-fold in offensive potency and scope. The bipedal configuration of this next generation assault unit enables it to traverse almost all terrains while its elevated vantage point, providing long distance viewing and multi-directional targeting, gives it a significant advantage over low height, horizontally-based agents. Manned by two occupants, the Battlewalker is outfitted with an array of weaponry, including two rapid-fire cannons and a dual-arena, infrared homing missile system. The Battlewalker armor is multi-layered, combining steel and reinforced plastic laminates with kinetic energy and heat absorbing materials. An automatic Active Defense System assists in resisting off air and ground fired rocket attacks.

The Gigante was inspired by the Minroz's 'T1' Battle Walker, which would eventually be developed into the T-39 Baghatur. Whilst Minroz has long had the more advanced Battle Walkers, the latest versions of the Gigante are up to the standard of their counterparts by the outbreak of The Cold War.

At long range, the Gigante's AV missiles snake around less than the Baghatur, giving it a slight advantage. But Gigante are expansive comparing to their Minrozian counterparts due to sophisticated production.

Specifications
Weaponry
• Two mounted Gatling guns
• Infrared Missile System
• One mounted Anti Aircraft/Anti Infantry MG
• MG mounted EMP infrared missile system

Armour
• Steel + Reinforced Plastic laminates
• Outer Layered Insulating Materials

Defences
• ADS

Capacity
• One pilot
• One gunner

Propulsion
• Two reinforced piston operated legs
• One high powered drive engine

Hey look someone uses the same mech as me!

[Malbogia]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terr ... _Transport

[Drakumbia]

Currently, we have no mech, though we are researching and developing a prototype, known as the X1277 Griffin. It is yet to enter service and is not to expected to do so until sometime around the halfway point of the century.

Concept at of an X1277 in action

[The Germania Alliance]

Currently, we have no mech, though we are researching and developing a prototype, known as the X1277 Griffin. It is yet to enter service and is not to expected to do so until sometime around the halfway point of the century.

Concept at of an X1277 in action

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I beat you to it!

[Bajireyn]

Why do so many people foolishly replace their MBT's with inferior mecha/mechs?

[Saurisisia]

Why do so many people foolishly replace their MBT's with inferior mecha/mechs?

They just think it's cooler.

While yes, Walkers are indeed cool, they're no replacement for tanks. Hence why my FT Army employs both tanks and Walkers.

[Ularn]

Why do so many people foolishly replace their MBT's with inferior mecha/mechs?

To repeat:

And before anyone says, we are most likely perfectly aware of how infeasible mechs would really be in real life. Chill out and recite the MST3K Mantra.

While yes, Walkers are indeed cool, they're no replacement for tanks. Hence why my FT Army employs both tanks and Walkers.

This approach is best approach.

[Arkon Corporation]

The Landmate Exosuit made for a single soldier to amplify his/her abilities. Constructed for the special forces E-S.W.A.T.
Landmate

For commanders and generals, they can personalize their Landmates to any degree. Giving them better weapons, different color, etc.

Commander Siphon's Landmate

[Saurisisia]

Why do so many people foolishly replace their MBT's with inferior mecha/mechs?

To repeat:

And before anyone says, we are most likely perfectly aware of how infeasible mechs would really be in real life. Chill out and recite the MST3K Mantra.

While yes, Walkers are indeed cool, they're no replacement for tanks. Hence why my FT Army employs both tanks and Walkers.

This approach is best approach.

Indeed.

[Arkon Corporation]

What about a tank type Armored Core Unit?

Same Armored Core Unit with legs and with tank tracks

[Ularn]

What about a tank type Armored Core Unit?

Same Armored Core Unit with legs and with tank tracks

That's actually giving you the worst of both worlds. You lose what few advantages a humanoid form does have over a tank while also sacrificing the tank's lower profile and sloped armour for, as far as I can see, no advantage.

[The Germania Alliance]

What about a tank type Armored Core Unit?

Same Armored Core Unit with legs and with tank tracks

That's actually giving you the worst of both worlds. You lose what few advantages a humanoid form does have over a tank while also sacrificing the tank's lower profile and sloped armour for, as far as I can see, no advantage.

To me, it looks like a mix of this and this, so I suppose it could have some advantages.

[Graditora]

Graditoras "Mech"

Nothing big and nothing pretty just something to aid the common soldier in breaking everyone's face in who still uses Droids and Clone trooper like soldiers.

[Arkon Corporation]

That's actually giving you the worst of both worlds. You lose what few advantages a humanoid form does have over a tank while also sacrificing the tank's lower profile and sloped armour for, as far as I can see, no advantage.

To me, it looks like a mix of this and this, so I suppose it could have some advantages.

Especially if it's as big as it was in the game

Mabey there are better versions of mech-tank hybrids.

[Bajireyn]

Graditoras "Mech"
(Image)
Nothing big and nothing pretty just something to aid the common soldier in breaking everyone's face in who still uses Droids and Clone trooper like soldiers.

Thats actually powered armor....

[Graditora]

Graditoras "Mech"
(Image)
Nothing big and nothing pretty just something to aid the common soldier in breaking everyone's face in who still uses Droids and Clone trooper like soldiers.

Thats actually powered armor....

Well now I know...learning everyday since 1995

[The Germania Alliance]

To me, it looks like a mix of this and this, so I suppose it could have some advantages.

Especially if it's as big as it was in the game

Mabey there are better versions of mech-tank hybrids.

If it's large (and I hadn't taken that into consideration), it's just begging to be target practice, so never mind.

http://mechazone.net/media/emulation/Xbox360/chromehounds-shotw.jpg; this is technically considered a mech (note I'm just using it as an example), so if someone could make this thing smaller (it's ten times bigger than a tank ), I suppose you could have the best of one world (tanks) and a little of the other world, though it's still probably going to be huge. It has a one-man crew situated in the cockpit (could be called a turret, though the entire 'command center' is in it too, so I'm not sure which it would be), so it technically qualifies as what is considered a 'western' mech.

[Graditora]

Especially if it's as big as it was in the game

Mabey there are better versions of mech-tank hybrids.

If it's large (and I hadn't taken that into consideration), it's just begging to be target practice, so never mind.

http://mechazone.net/media/emulation/Xbox360/chromehounds-shotw.jpg; this is technically considered a mech (note I'm just using it as an example), so if someone could make this thing smaller (it's ten times bigger than a tank ), I suppose you could have the best of one world (tanks) and a little of the other world, though it's still probably going to be huge. It has a one-man crew situated in the cockpit (could be called a turret, though the entire 'command center' is in it too, so I'm not sure which it would be), so it technically qualifies as what is considered a 'western' mech.

I used to have that game...I miss it

[Hobbiest Republic]

My nation isn't yet large enough to develop our own Mechs, but there were recently large Mecha hangars rediscovered under Mary's Peak, Ancient but serviceable OZ mobile suits. OZ MS-06 'Leo' and OS AMS-07 'Aries' Suits were discovered, as well as incomplete schematics for 'Taurus' units. We're still working on modifying our existing infrastructure to support transportation of the suits, until then they'll remain posted at the Capital. As far as the most common suit employed, it would be the L150 Power Armor, which looks suspiciously similar to the kind that starcraft marines use. However these aren't classified as mecha, so much as power armor.

[The Germania Alliance]

I used to have that game...I miss it

Would be worth getting again if the servers hadn't been taken down.

[Shevorin]

(Don't have pics, don't feel like drawing anything right now).

ModMech 1.0
A mech in production by the Shevorin government, with about 100 in testing. It's not a huge giant mech, but is worn by Shevorin soldiers, a mech suit with a helmet. It is fully customizable, with several add-ons. Here is a general list.
Laser Cannon. A small laser gun, which fires beams efficiently. It burns through skin. It is strapped on to the wrist area.
Micro-Jets. A small jet-pack engineered into the ModMech, which can carry soldiers up to 5,000 ft. above ground.
Assault Rifle. An assault rifle that can be fitted onto the Micro-Jets.
Double Armor. An extra suit of armor to be fitted over the first suit. Makes soldiers harder to kill and increases storage, but makes them slower.
Buzzsaw. Two buzzsaws that can be fitted into the shoulder area. Can be fired easily.
X-Ray Sniper. A rather small sniper rifle, with extremely accurate crosshairs.
(Yes, I know there are only 6 customization features. I wrote this at 12:30 a.m. I'm not completely full of ideas right now.

The ModMech constantly undergoes changes, allowing more customization.

Drone Automaton
The Drone Automaton is a mech currently used in the Shevorin Army. It stands at about 6 feet, but has superhuman capabilities. It can jump far and high, it hits hard, and runs fast. However, they are expensive, so they are not too numerous. They attack using their fists. They are mainly used in National Defense.

Major Automaton
A rare automaton, which is a larger and more powerful form of the Drone Automaton. They are even more expensive than the drones, and there are currently around 100 Major Automatons, only used in national emergencies.

Project Grand Automaton
Project Grand Automaton is a military project in progress by the Shevorin government. It is designed to be the ultimate defense force. It is currently about 5 years in production. It will be extremely superhuman, able to eradicate entire troops of enemies with no effort at all.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Writeup to come tomorrow.