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Would you make these creatures slaves?

No. They deserve freedom, and they have the right to explore your land, and maybe join your nation!
132
72%
Yes, it'd be a great service for your nation, and you can possibly sell them to keep the economy going.
41
22%
No, just shoot them and get them off our country. They're funny looking.
11
6%
 
Total votes : 184

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Vragian
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 42
Founded: Nov 06, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Vragian » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:52 am

Murderers, rapists and violent criminals after third strike can be stripped of their rights and sold to industry. Anything from hard labour to human testing is perfectly acceptable.
Money of their sale is used to recompense families of their victims.

Enslaving entire people just because they are different would be abhorrent and completly against laws of Vragian.
Last edited by Vragian on Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Daegukgi
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 166
Founded: Jan 06, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Daegukgi » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:55 am

Daegukgi does not support enslavery because everyone are humans, and humans have to be treated equal among themselves.

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Nevena
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 15
Founded: Sep 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Nevena » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:51 am

No we are capitalists. They will be allowed to enter and rise and fall on their own merits.
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Tuthina
Senator
 
Posts: 4948
Founded: Jun 14, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Tuthina » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:59 am

Slavery is illegal in Tuthina. Apart from the obvious violation against human rights of slavery, we deem slavery an obstacle to the unity of the population, as slaves would not be likely to share the culture with the freed population, and the restriction on their rights hurts productivity anyway.
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New York - New Jersey
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Posts: 282
Founded: Dec 07, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby New York - New Jersey » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:45 am

It depends on your definition of strange creatures? If these creatures are comparable to domestic horses or something then yes I guess they would be slaves in the same way horses or or other domestic animals serve humans. If they are intelligent beings in the way humans are then no because slavery is unconstitutional in that respect.
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Saurisisia
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Posts: 30239
Founded: Jan 28, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Saurisisia » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:26 pm

Western Visayas and Palawan wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:How is it violation of human rights, if they are not human?

Wellboneland wrote:Any HUMAN who steps foot on Wellboneland is a free man.

He had to fix my statement. Thanks. ;)


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Ourisio
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Posts: 66
Founded: Jan 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Ourisio » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:56 pm

Nope. Slavery is one of the marks of barbarian-ism.
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Saurisisia
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Founded: Jan 28, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Saurisisia » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:57 pm

Ourisio wrote:Nope. Slavery is one of the marks of barbarian-ism.


I believe the correct term would be "barbarism".

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Dagnia
Senator
 
Posts: 3930
Founded: Jul 27, 2004
Ex-Nation

Postby Dagnia » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:03 pm

Slavery for people who have committed no crime is illegal in Dagnia. If they are smart in addition to hard-working, they will do very well here.
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Vegetaria (Ancient)
Secretary
 
Posts: 36
Founded: Jan 21, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Vegetaria (Ancient) » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:55 pm

We welcome fugitive slaves from other countries as long as they learn English, give up eating meat and drinking alcohol, abide by our nation's laws, and convert to Hinduism. This is what we consider our nationalization process. Because of the rigor of this process, very few people have chosen to undertake this.

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Coltessia
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 62
Founded: Oct 11, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Coltessia » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:59 pm

I'd support it as long as everyone else can be a slave aswell. No single race.

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The UPOBZ
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 398
Founded: Jan 05, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The UPOBZ » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:09 pm

Yes, They would be allowed to join the country,granted they can fill out the forms, but they will never ever be enslaved.

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Singapore and Southern Malaya
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 59
Founded: Jan 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Singapore and Southern Malaya » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:09 pm

Slavery is illegal in which the person who does so will be punished under the "Human Trafficking Act" in which they will be sentenced to a 10 years prison sentence including corporal punishment in which they will receive 20 cane strokes including a fine of CM 1,000,000 or SGD 2,000,000 and lawsuit fine which cost CM 5,000,000 or SGD 10,000,000 while those who conduct human smuggling are sentenced to 20 years in prison including corporal punishment in which they will receive 35 cane strokes including a fine of CM 10,000,000 or SGD 20,000,000 including lawsuit fine which cost CM 20,000,000 or SGD 40,000,000 and Immigration Fine which cost CM 5,000,000 or SGD 10,000,000 or being sent to one of Nazi Centauri's Ultramaximum Security Prison in which they will face a Lifetime sentence and being locked in a Solitary-Confinement Cell or in rare cases the death penalty.
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Aethrys
Minister
 
Posts: 2714
Founded: Apr 14, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Aethrys » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:15 pm

Of course we would support slaves, monetarily and with supplies and weapons, so that they can revolt and overthrow their evil overlords and form a socialist state under our benevolent guidance.

Oh wait, you mean would we support slavery, yeah, no, we'd be totally against that shit.
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JJ Place
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5051
Founded: Jul 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby JJ Place » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:16 pm

Reymonor wrote:Let's say ( THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. ) Some strange creatures, who are very hard-working come into your nation, would you make them slaves. What would you do then?

Of course not. Slavery is high treason in JJ Place, and punishable to the highest extents of law.
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Rasht
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Jan 22, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Rasht » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:21 pm

Not at all.

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Glenmere
Envoy
 
Posts: 223
Founded: Jan 20, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Glenmere » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:21 pm

Glenmere enslaves nobody. Nor do we tolerate those who do enslave others.
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Eahland
Minister
 
Posts: 3404
Founded: Apr 18, 2006
Libertarian Police State

Postby Eahland » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:33 am

What are these "strange creatures", and from whence do they come? This is a vital bit of information left out of the question.

Slavery is unlawful in Eahland, and has been near as long as there has been an Eahland - more than fifteen hundred years. Any slave who sets foot on Eahlisc soil, or anywhere else we can enforce our writ, is a freeman. Any Eahlisc citizen (and it's really easy to become an Eahlisc citizen) anywhere in the world is a freeman. Any slaver who comes under our power will be hanged by the neck until dead. And anyone who disputes any of these will have the full might of the Eahlisc military machine to deal with.

But this only applies to people. You can't enslave a horse, or an ox. They're not people; they're dumb beasts.

Current Eahlisc law extends its protections only to humans. Full protections, anyway... there are laws against unnecessary cruelty to animals, but I'm not a cannibal for eating this chicken dinner, and the man who twisted the chicken's neck isn't a murderer. (One hopes. Not for killing the chicken, at any rate.)

If we should meet another species or other form of life that qualifies as people, I'd be inclined to modify the law accordingly - and, since I wear the cynehelm, my opinion carries all the weight that counts in these matters. But there aren't any other creatures on Earth that make the cut (some say that counter-virus that they assured me would be a good idea to release into the network qualifies, but I'm not sure of that, and even if it does, it's so alien that most of our law isn't even relevant, so I'm content to live and let (maybe) live for the moment), and creatures from elsewhere raise a whole host of other questions, many of them more immediately pressing than their legal status.

Like, again, where did they come from? How did they get here? Is anything likely to be pursuing them? The full might of the Eahlisc military machine only goes so far against a star-faring civilization...
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Arumdaum
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Founded: Oct 21, 2009
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Postby Arumdaum » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:09 am

Slavery has been illegal in Arumdaum ever since 1544.
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Blitzkreig Reich
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Posts: 3
Founded: Jan 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Blitzkreig Reich » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:22 am

Our Nation would vote for slaves being allowed.. your economy could sell them off for Cash yes. but why not sell them with their rights?

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Blitzkreig Reich
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Founded: Jan 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Blitzkreig Reich » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:23 am

Arumdaum wrote:Slavery has been illegal in Arumdaum ever since 1544.
Then why does the State of Israel use it today?

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Darth Sidious
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 5
Founded: Jan 19, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Darth Sidious » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:25 am

The Nation of Darth Sidious official reply regarding the support of slavery


To whom it may concern,

The Great Nation of Darth Sidious hereby declares that it supports all forms of slavery as it results in a free workforce which may be disposed of in a timely fashion if it is deemed as necessary. Those who are enlisted as slaves in The Great Nation of Darth Sidious have the following benefits which they otherwise would not have:

- A complementary Euthanasia Coupon, to be used upon completion of mandatory work assigned. (Minimum 10 years labour contract)
- Free dental care. When starting a new work contract, all slaves teeth are removed for health reasons.
- Free food. Food is provided to all slaves after the days end in the form of boiled roots laced with Amphetamines.
- Free Gravesite. (Non-compulsory) Upon completion of above mentioned labour contract, a worker will be laid to rest in a large pit with his fellow colleagues.

Signed

Lord Darth Sidious
The Nation of Darth Sidious

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Arumdaum
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Founded: Oct 21, 2009
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Arumdaum » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:26 am

Blitzkreig Reich wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Slavery has been illegal in Arumdaum ever since 1544.
Then why does the State of Israel use it today?

Umm, what? :p
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The cold ice
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Posts: 399
Founded: Mar 25, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The cold ice » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:29 am

pay 'em done
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Oblivionic
Civilian
 
Posts: 1
Founded: Nov 29, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Oblivionic » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:39 am

We call them 'citizens'.

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