Stance on Sentient Ponies

[Holy Marsh]

OOC- See no reason to hate on them.

IC- They exist and are welcome in Holy Marsh, who has supported all manner of sentient creatures. You should see our Loxodons.

[Eahland]

FYI: Dragons are also imaginary. Dinosaurs are extinct. We're still reserving judgment on sentient machines.

Riiiiiight...
-President Alex Sampson

Well, unless you want to count birds as dinosaurs, which is defensible, if not exactly common usage.


If you were wondering, birds aren't sapient by most definitions, either. Though some ravens have exhibited tool use, and in one interesting experiment I saw, the ability to learn to operate a vending machine.

Premier laughs so hard he nearly dies.
"Oh....oh my.....I thought I was going to die for a second, what does this guy say? dinosaurs are what?

Extinct. There was this major impact event about 65 million years ago, and a whole lot of species went extinct as a result, including pretty much all of the dinosaurs. The ones that survived evolved, as creatures do, and, though some of their descendants are still around, the original forms are also long extinct.

Maybe you didn't get the memo.

apparent we have a new North Korea or Cambodia or something, that was hilarious, add it to the note of countries to be invaded and harmed."

With your army of magic talking ponies and dinosaurs, I suppose. You have fun with that.

[Saurisisia]

Riiiiiight...
-President Alex Sampson

Well, unless you want to count birds as dinosaurs, which is defensible, if not exactly common usage.


If you were wondering, birds aren't sapient by most definitions, either. Though some ravens have exhibited tool use, and in one interesting experiment I saw, the ability to learn to operate a vending machine.

Us? Birds?! Okay, your idiocy is really making me laugh, Human.
-President Alex Sampson

[Langenberg]

In the Republic of Langenberg, these sentient equines, also known as Ponies, have been the source of some debate in recent months.

Politically as of this writing, Ponies in Langenberg have the same rights as anybody else, although this may shortly change if a certain bill is passed in Congress. This bill, in fully unaltered incarnation, would deny the vote to Ponies living in Langenberg.

Economically, the law favors nobody against others. Ponies in the Republic tend to live a very rural, agrarian lifestyle.

Regarding social policy, humans in Langenberg have lately been very tense regarding Ponies, especially with events such as the Pony Revolutions.

[Wazkyraque]

Ponies Talk?

[Thurask]

We are a "pony"-free nation and proud of it.

[Vigilancia]

If a horse, donkey, mule or pony were to speak or show signs of sapience, it would likely be kept as a circus animal, passers-by required to pay a nickel upon entry to the tent in which it was contained. If its rants were too depressing or aggravating, it would be put down.

(By the way, this is yet another nation by the one who brought you Imperial DaiHan, Khazyan and Reformed York. I'm am not a newbie.)

[Maraque]

Sentient ponies have all the same rights and privileges as any sentient being in Tsvarchi, as guaranteed by our Bill of Rights.

Ponies in Tsvarchi tend to be more isolated, and live in the outdoors in many of Tsvarchi's grasslands, although an increasing number are entering the city and becoming more urban.

Ponies have recently been subject to increased hate crimes as a result of the failed pony revolution, and the pony population equally feels as though they're targeted by the very harsh and brutal murder of the pony revolution leader at the hands of the king, but the king maintains that we should not let the actions of a few stain their reputation and try to justify harming them, and vice versa.

[Vigilancia]

Well, unless you want to count birds as dinosaurs, which is defensible, if not exactly common usage.


If you were wondering, birds aren't sapient by most definitions, either. Though some ravens have exhibited tool use, and in one interesting experiment I saw, the ability to learn to operate a vending machine.

Us? Birds?! Okay, your idiocy is really making me laugh, Human.
-President Alex Sampson

And while we're on the subject, calling people "Human" directly is quite disrespectful. Somehow, using pronouns would be even more respectful. You don't call a cat 'Cat' when you're speaking to it, do you? Cats typically have names. So do humans, mind.

[Saurisisia]

Us? Birds?! Okay, your idiocy is really making me laugh, Human.
-President Alex Sampson

And while we're on the subject, calling people "Human" directly is quite disrespectful. Somehow, using pronouns would be even more respectful. You don't call a cat 'Cat' when you're speaking to it, do you? Cats typically have names. So do humans, mind.

Hm, right...
-President Alex Sampson

[Vigilancia]

And while we're on the subject, calling people "Human" directly is quite disrespectful. Somehow, using pronouns would be even more respectful. You don't call a cat 'Cat' when you're speaking to it, do you? Cats typically have names. So do humans, mind.

Hm, right...
-President Alex Sampson

A better question is how these letters are reaching you. Do they just arrive at the site before it's built, and sit there in a box with an 'opening date' at which point you open them, read them and send a response backwards through a time machine?

-Alfonso Flores, minister of Chrononautical Affairs

[Langenberg]

OOC: Could we perhaps return to the subject of the OP before this gets locked?

[Vigilancia]

Three off-topic posts is hardly bad. You should see some threads.

But I agree, we ought to stay on topic.

*Ahem*

Sapient ponies and other animals don't really fit the theme of any of my nations, with the exception of a few magical creatures, but they're hardly animals at all. While I actively try not to hate on ponyists, it can become hard. Their ubiquity in NS these days is becoming disconcerting, for I worry their pink-maned terror-hordes will ultimately gorge on the world in lumps, or simply close in on it, bump into it and watch as it rotates four or five times and shrinks to nothing, like Pac-Man after being hit by a ghost.

[The Batorys]

As of yet, the Empire has not encountered any sapient ponies. Our stance would likely depend upon whether contact was peaceful or not. The only non-humanoid sapients we've encountered so far... well... we aren't the best of friends... but then again, we're at war...

[Estainia]

OOCly, I don't get the hype, honestly I think it's semi-stupid. Sentient Dinosaurs? Fine, sentient horses? Annoying. Yes; the double standard is high.

ICly; I recognize the existence of most fantastical creatures, elves etc etc not unheard of. The pony thing is touchy though because honestly; it's just a stupid fad and it'll fade with time; as such I don't recognize them.

This was not meant to be flame-y.

[Imeriata]

They are an inferior species just as all other non-human life, of course so are they more than useful in farming activities amongst other things so the ones living in the federation are quite liked even if chronological priest are still as all good followers of the holy chronicles more than a bit unsettled by their outrageous usage of magic that is the gods gift to mankind and they are promptly told to stop with that nonsense.

Otherwise so do we see no problem to take up the human burden with them even if the few wild ones we have meet have so far been rather rude and actually seemed offended when we informed them that we as well as the entire war effort had a task that only they would be able to accomplish so while they seem a bit nonsensical and hard to follow sometimes so are there far worse inferior species out there that are far bellow them on the natural hierarchy of species.

[The Celestial Flame]

Why would our nation have a stance relating to a species that can't actually exist?
Magic and related... really...

[Hippostania]

About 60% of Hippostania's population consists of earth ponies, pegasi and unicorns. Hippostania is a Pony Republic, but this doesn't mean that the ponies have hegemony over the humans. It simply means that the ponies love and tolerate the humans and vice versa. Ponyist Republic might be a better name, but Pony Republic is shorter and more catchy.

[The International Soviet Union]

We're fine with the ponies.

[Cameroi]

they're cute, they're alien, and i love anything that is both cute and alien.
any pretense of their resembling in any way earth equines is of course utterly absurd.

they don't even look anything like earth horses, and if they did, they'd be just as ugly.
beyond that, well i've seen parts of a couple of episodes with the sound off.
i suspect i might have less appreciation of them if i'd had the sound on, but that's just guessing.

i don't have any other strong feelings about them either way.

there are a lot of other earth species i find more attractive then earth horses. MOST earth species for that matter.
i don't hate horses. i just don't see what horse lovers see in them.

red pandas and fennics, leemers and ferrits, these i can see, even fellids and canids. but equines? why?

because humans used them for a time (along with others) as beasts of burden?

i like cute and alien, and as long as i can leave them at that, i love the concept.

[Killikstan]

Sentient ponies would probably be treated like any other pony. Given that horses can't talk, most Killikstanis would likely just assume that the horses were just very, very intelligent, and after realizing the things they would probably be capable of being taught to do, it's likely the locals would make a killing selling them.

I'd imagine they would be as well treated as any other horse, which, given their rarity on the archipelagio, is usually pretty well.


If we're talking like, actual MLP ponies, I'd imagine it would go roughly the same way. Few Killikstanis have ever seen any kind of horse, and would think it's normal.

[The Irish Marchlands]

They exist, but general pro-humanist sentiment pervasive in the Holy Empire, makes legalisation of immigration of ponies and other non-humans an impossibility. There exists but a singular sentient equine in the entire empire and she is only a refugee, it is currently unclear how she arrived and she does not possess citizenship status.

[1000 Cats]

And while we're on the subject, calling people "Human" directly is quite disrespectful. Somehow, using pronouns would be even more respectful. You don't call a cat 'Cat' when you're speaking to it, do you? Cats typically have names. So do humans, mind.

Hm, right...
-President Alex Sampson

Actually, we don't often mind. I mean, if you know my name, and can actually pronounce it, it would be nice to be referred to by my given label. I've done a lot to earn it, after all. But if not, "Cat" will honestly do.

[Eaglleia]

Don't you mean sapient?

If you do, like all sapient beings, they are granted equal rights and freedoms. (Non-human Sapient beings make up the majority of Eaglleia, but there's no single species that exceeds over 7% of the Population )

[Cameroi]

we would of course treat them like any other sentient if they were to land among us or arrive on the surface from landing somewhere else on lananara.
they would have to be careful though, because one of our native non-sentient ordinary animal species, kitterflys specifically, their main diet is a native flying non-sentient quasi-equine, a 100 times larger then their individual selves, which the bring down by swarming, out numbering and outmaneuvering. we would not want to see this tragedy happen. and would do everything we could to prevent it. though i'm not sure just what we could do to do so.

the best suggestion would be to keep to the ground, as they never attack their prey on the ground, only in mid air. we would gladly design and build special railway carriages on which they could be comfortable and happy traveling. but that is probably the best we could do to try and insure their safety. possibly with their psionics they might establish a rapport with our psionically powerful little lion-bears, and perhaps THEY could find away to discourage the kitterflys from attacking them. (it is even possible, though uncertain, that today's kitterflys evolved from the prehistoric predators that preyed on our lion-bears before they evolved their powerful psionic defense, which is the basis of their common name)

(it has been suggested that kitterflys are the reason our brightly colored a musical song lizards, never grew wings and evolved into true birds)