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Postby Whairtia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:08 pm

Eahland wrote:There is no such thing as a sentient (by which we assume you mean "sapient") pony, bad '50s television shows and that one horse that they claimed could do arithmetic notwithstanding. Anyone who believes in talking ponies, or believes that they are a talking pony, is clearly delusional, and we really wish that they would stop talking their nonsense in sane-people threads.

FYI: Dragons are also imaginary. Dinosaurs are extinct. We're still reserving judgment on sentient machines.


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Postby YellowApple » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:09 pm

Dark Mule wrote:OOC: I've never watched "My little pony", and I'm mystified about why it seems so popular with anyone old enough to post here.

IC: Obviously, as a nation of sentient equines ourselves, we have no problem with sentient ponies. We're not so sure about magic though. Our nation has no recognized magic.


It's actually rather well written, in my opinion, with creative talent originating from a variety of shows; for example, the former creative director (and now consulting director), Lauren Faust, was part of the creative team (including animation) for the Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and The Iron Giant. The Season 2 premiere even featured John de Lancie, who played "Q" in Star Trek: TNG, and the ending scene of the second part of that episode was a shot-by-shot reenactment of the ending ceremony from Star Wars: A New Hope. The series (especially the latest season so far) basically bleeds awesome.

It's not for everyone, of course, but it's a show I certainly recommend.

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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:10 pm

Whairtia wrote:
Eahland wrote:There is no such thing as a sentient (by which we assume you mean "sapient") pony, bad '50s television shows and that one horse that they claimed could do arithmetic notwithstanding. Anyone who believes in talking ponies, or believes that they are a talking pony, is clearly delusional, and we really wish that they would stop talking their nonsense in sane-people threads.

FYI: Dragons are also imaginary. Dinosaurs are extinct. We're still reserving judgment on sentient machines.


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"Oh....oh my.....I thought I was going to die for a second, what does this guy say? dinosaurs are what? apparent we have a new North Korea or Cambodia or something, that was hilarious, add it to the note of countries to be invaded and harmed."

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Postby Whairtia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:11 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Dark Mule wrote:OOC: I've never watched "My little pony", and I'm mystified about why it seems so popular with anyone old enough to post here.

IC: Obviously, as a nation of sentient equines ourselves, we have no problem with sentient ponies. We're not so sure about magic though. Our nation has no recognized magic.


It's actually rather well written, in my opinion, with creative talent originating from a variety of shows; for example, the former creative director (and now consulting director), Lauren Faust, was part of the creative team (including animation) for the Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and The Iron Giant. The Season 2 premiere even featured John de Lancie, who played "Q" in Star Trek: TNG, and the ending scene of the second part of that episode was a shot-by-shot reenactment of the ending ceremony from Star Wars: A New Hope. The series (especially the latest season so far) basically bleeds awesome.

It's not for everyone, of course, but it's a show I certainly recommend.

Meh, I find it overated, I mean if I had to watch with my little sister than yeah but other than that, pretty much overated, but that is my opinion.
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Postby Rupudska » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:13 pm

Eahland wrote:There is no such thing as a sentient (by which we assume you mean "sapient") pony, bad '50s television shows and that one horse that they claimed could do arithmetic notwithstanding. Anyone who believes in talking ponies, or believes that they are a talking pony, is clearly delusional, and we really wish that they would stop talking their nonsense in sane-people threads.

FYI: Dragons are also imaginary. Dinosaurs are extinct. We're still reserving judgment on sentient machines.


I'd just like to point out that I can count the number of nations we've come across that would agree with you on one hand. And that's not even mentioning the fact that I'm not human, either, technically. (Still a member of the human genus, though.)

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Postby Wolfenium » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:24 pm

Like I care about talking ponies...

In any case, the imperial constitution guarantees the rights of all sentients, bipedal or not. We have no issues with their magic, since as fellow users of the arcane arts, we already have secure laws to regulate the use of magic within our nation.

Political freedom is also guaranteed under our laws, although given the general mood of the local population, I would not think Ponyism would be very receptive to us. My grandfather, the previous Emperor, once championed a similar call for harmony in the region. In the end, the people he was trying to win over the most, our northern neighbour Amythyst, had him and my entire family assassinated, before sending their armies to invade our beloved homeland...

I personally find the ponies' ideals absurd. There is no room for honesty or kindness in a world like Astol. I'll leave it to those walking ads how they'll spread their message, as long as they toe the line, but I can tell you their cheeriness is going to fade soon enough...

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Postby Faolinn » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:51 pm

Serious sociopolitical/true to life what if answer:They would be tolerated so long as they contributed to the community and didn't cause any trouble.

Personal opinion based on thoughts on the show:Drive the f*ckers out of there and over a ledge 300 style!
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Postby 1000 Cats » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:54 pm

There has never been such a thing witnessed in our world, but those few who have witnessed them outside of it would very much like to sample them. The flying ones might be a little too... airborne, but something that's bright and colourful and relatively slow and meaty, well, what could be better?
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Postby Pius the Grand » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:55 pm

So,let me get 'dis straight. Talking,magic ponies that come in all the colors of the rainbow? Sounds like Gay Unicorns and we got a ban on them. So they will be shot on sight.

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Postby The Seven Realms » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:04 pm

Even though our entire population consists of cat people,we use Sentient Ponies as pets and companions throughout the Empire.

Either they comply or they are sent to "pony settlements" which are nuclear weapons test installations.

No matter where they end up we consider them to be valuable contributions to our society...though we can always use more for conventional and nuclear powered weapons too....
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Postby Legokiller » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:37 pm

Legokiller's views on the sentient ponies is friendly, adored by their cuteness, and welcomes any pony that emigrate into the Nation. Although there's currently one pony named Pinkie Pie in Legokiller, that going to have an exorcism because of trying to devour a security guard soul.
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Postby Threlizdun » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:49 pm

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Postby Licana » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:52 pm

The Republic's stance on sapient ponies is roughly summed up as apprehensive. The speed in which they have spread to other nations is simply astounding. Throughout the Republic, most citizens meet the issue with indifference, though there is a healthy minority that believes that they should be banned from traveling within Licanan borders.

Under our definition of the word, these ponies are defined as sapient beings and therefore fall under the protection of the Licanan Basic Bill of Rights while in Licanan borders, though there is a small movement challenging this within The Republic. Additionally, extreme military actions taken against a sizable civilian or otherwise noncombatant population of these ponies is considered, under Licanan law, a war crime.

As of right now, the pony population in Licana is minimal. A majority of the ponies in The Republic are either tourists or temporary refugees, while those intending to take up residence in the Republic making up less than 0.1% of the population. Socially, they are outsiders, more so than other immigrants and refugees due to their nonhuman status. There are some moderate discriminatory issues for all ponies, resident or otherwise, especially in employment, and there is currently trouble with the law enforcement turning a blind eye to these cases. Domestic violence against these ponies is rare, but not unheard of, especially in the refugee communities.

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Meh, I find it overated, I mean if I had to watch with my little sister than yeah but other than that, pretty much overated, but that is my opinion.

OOC: You find it overrated how? Have you ever watched the show? Or are you simply saying it's "overrated" because it's popular on the internet and you don't like it?

I really fail to see how it's any more overrated than Halo, CoD, Avatar, or any one of the millions of unfunny memes. :/
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Postby Whairtia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:55 pm

Licana wrote:The Republic's stance on sentient ponies is roughly summed up as apprehensive. The speed in which they have spread to other nations is simply astounding. Throughout the Republic, most citizens meet the issue with indifference, though there is a healthy minority that believes that they should be banned from traveling within Licanan borders.

Under our definition of the word, these ponies are defined as sentient beings and therefore fall under the protection of the Licanan Basic Bill of Rights while in Licanan borders, though there is a small movement challenging this within The Republic. Additionally, extreme military actions taken against a sizable civilian or otherwise noncombatant population of these ponies is considered, under Licanan law, a war crime.

As of right now, the pony population in Licana is minimal. A majority of the ponies in The Republic are either tourists or temporary refugees, while those intending to take up residence in the Republic making up less than 0.1% of the population. Socially, they are outsiders, more so than other immigrants and refugees due to their nonhuman status. There are some moderate discriminatory issues for all ponies, resident or otherwise, especially in employment, and there is currently trouble with the law enforcement turning a blind eye to these cases. Domestic violence against these ponies is rare, but not unheard of, especially in the refugee communities.

Whairtia wrote:Meh, I find it overated, I mean if I had to watch with my little sister than yeah but other than that, pretty much overated, but that is my opinion.

OOC: You find it overrated how? Have you ever watched the show? Or are you simply saying it's "overrated" because it's popular on the internet and you don't like it?

I really fail to see how it's any more overrated than Halo, CoD, Avatar, or any one of the millions of unfunny memes. :/

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Postby Licana » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:56 pm

Whairtia wrote:I am so sorry that my harmless opinion has harmed you, sorry ;)

OOC: It really didn't, I'm just intrigued as to why you see it as overrated.
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

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Postby Whairtia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:01 pm

Licana wrote:
Whairtia wrote:I am so sorry that my harmless opinion has harmed you, sorry ;)

OOC: It really didn't, I'm just intrigued as to why you see it as overrated.

OOC: Because some people have taken it to extreme measures in fandom, I am not saying anyone here is bad with it, I just find that it has grown to popularity to rival Halo and Family Guy.
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Postby Licana » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:07 pm

Whairtia wrote:
Licana wrote:OOC: It really didn't, I'm just intrigued as to why you see it as overrated.

OOC: Because some people have taken it to extreme measures in fandom, I am not saying anyone here is bad with it, I just find that it has grown to popularity to rival Halo and Family Guy.

OOC: Extreme measures as in?

I also think you should rethink it's popularity as well. It is no where near Halo or Family Guy in terms of recognition. There's very few people I know of IRL that even know about the show, whereas I don't think I've met anyone who didn't know Family Guy, and only a handful that didn't know Halo. It's only really prominent on the web, and a good amount of those people that I've met on online didn't have anything nice to say about it.

In short, I still don't see how it's even remotely overrated. It gets some moderate recognition on the internet, but has mixed opinions on it and very little presence IRL (at least, in my area).
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Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

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Postby Oceanic Vakiadia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:08 pm

While there are no sapient ponies in Vakiadia and likely never will be, the religion of Ponyism is a matter of continuous debate in Vakiadian politics. The Fascists and Communists have radically different opinions on the matter, of course.

The Fascists believe we should put aside our reservations about the pony race and push for improved relations with all Ponyist states.

The Communists believe we should view Ponyist nations as potential threats, and possibly declare Ponyism a dangerous ideology.

The Imperials are split in their opinions and constantly fluctuate with every incident.

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Postby YellowApple » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:09 pm

Licana wrote:
Whairtia wrote:OOC: Because some people have taken it to extreme measures in fandom, I am not saying anyone here is bad with it, I just find that it has grown to popularity to rival Halo and Family Guy.

OOC: Extreme measures as in?

I also think you should rethink it's popularity as well. It is no where near Halo or Family Guy in terms of recognition. There's very few people I know of IRL that even know about the show, whereas I don't think I've met anyone who didn't know Family Guy, and only a handful that didn't know Halo. It's only really prominent on the web, and a good amount of those people that I've met on online didn't have anything nice to say about it.

In short, I still don't see how it's even remotely overrated. It gets some moderate recognition on the internet, but has mixed opinions on it and very little presence IRL (at least, in my area).


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Postby Dystopian Malisin » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:10 pm

Tolerated, unless they break the law, in which case they're killed. It's no different for humans and non-humans, although the sentient pony population is less than .0036%
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Postby Jinos » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:43 pm

Since Jinos is a 'real life' nation. If some Jinosites saw a Sentient Pony, they'd probably call the National Guard up, and we'd role in, take it into custody, and then thoroughly question it as to where it came from.
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Postby Bajireyn » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:16 pm

Saurisisia wrote:Ponies are tolerated within Saurisia as we view the whole issue over Ponyism with indifference. They are free to live here in Saurisia with the same rights as other non-Humans provided they become citizens. It should be noted that the sapient Equines already living in Saurisia (Horses and Zebras) are especially welcoming of those Ponies who decide to live here in Saurisia.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:17 pm

We have non-humans like elven, nekos, etc alongside humans. We just don't have (the MLP: FM sort of) ponies as, OOCly speaking, I'm just not really that interested in having them, not really seeing the reason why any of this pony stuff gets the attention it does anyways across the internet these days.

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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:18 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:Ponyist nations can RP quite well, though, I'll give them that. :)

That they can.
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