NS Military Realism Consultation Thread

[Novraslavia]

I'm not sure if I'm using the correct term. I know that an infantry section is eight to thirteen personnel, so I assume an artillery section is eight to thirteen batteries. That aside, I was thinking that if if each battery requires a spotter, gunner, and loader (for indirect firing missions), plus a deployment team, then I can either use smaller deployment teams or have, for example, one deployment team assigned to serve more than one battery. At the cost of deployment speed, I think this would be a good way to save personnel.

An artillery battery is equivalent to an infantry company. 80-225 men
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Hierarchy_of_modern_armies

I always thought an artillery batter was a single unit. As in one howitzer.

[Immoren]

Battery is single unit with several guns. For example Anglo-saxon battery is eight guns while Finnish battery is six.

[-St George]

Really? Back when I was rping as a nation that had an army I always integrated at various levels (hence mortar spam at squad level)

Commando mortar to every infantryman.
dwi

1 in 3 in a 24 man squad.
dwi

[Novraslavia]

Well according to the article, a military battery that uses howitzers usually consists of six to eight units. If I'm using the 2A18, which normally has a crew of seven personnel, then I will need no more than 56 men/women to maintain the guns. But I will still need drivers to transport the guns as well as any supplies needed (ammunition, supplies for the troopers if it is an extended operation, etc.).

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Commando mortar to every infantryman.
dwi

1 in 3 in a 24 man squad.
dwi

It's actually one in two for Shock Brigades, 1 in 3 for regulars, but every Spetsnaz soldier has his own commando mortar.

Every man a bombardier.

[Trollakistan]

I'm thinking of giving my dedicated anti-tank squads missile/rocket launchers so they can have range, but I'm wondering if they'd still be able to run and jump at high speeds with the added weight from the weapons.

[-St George]

1 in 3 in a 24 man squad.
dwi

It's actually one in two for Shock Brigades, 1 in 3 for regulars, but every Spetsnaz soldier has his own commando mortar.

Every man a bombardier.

I'm speaking regular army

[Immoren]

You guys are silly you know. Even though I love mortars and arty, I am not going to push them so down in my organisation.Well maybe light mortar for light infatry platoon, but mostly for mortars it is medium mortars at company level and heavy mortars at battalion level.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

You guys are silly you know. Even though I love mortars and arty, I am not going to push them so down in my organisation.Well maybe light mortar for light infatry platoon, but mostly for mortars it is medium mortars at company level and heavy mortars at battalion level.

"Commando Mortar" in Samozniy parlance refers to a 2" mortar with a maximum effect range of less than that of a Battle Rifle.
Designated specialists at squad level have either a 2.5" or 3", whilst Company-level bombardiers field 3.5" beasts of burden. Battalion-level mortars range from 4.2" to 4.7"

[-St George]

You guys are silly you know. Even though I love mortars and arty, I am not going to push them so down in my organisation.Well maybe light mortar for light infatry platoon, but mostly for mortars it is medium mortars at company level and heavy mortars at battalion level.

Well, our military was purely set-up to make an enemy invasion and occupation almost impossible to maintain without massive casualties and huge investment into rebuilding.

Thus mortar spam.

[Caladonia]

wat u people dont understand is that the battery crew handles the ammunition, driving, and maintenance as well as everything else.
besides... my ultra heavy 280mm leopold artillery will wipe u out in minutes

[Immoren]

My average manouvre brigade has, if I didn't screw up my calculations
81mm mortars: 48
120mm mortars: 36
122mm howitzers: 36
155 mm howitzers: 18

[DASHES]

I'm thinking of giving my dedicated anti-tank squads missile/rocket launchers so they can have range, but I'm wondering if they'd still be able to run and jump at high speeds with the added weight from the weapons.

Gosh no. Period.
By nature Anti-Tank Infantry units are relatively slow in army deployments (Big Guns = Heavy = Soldiers bogged down by the weight), unless they are incorporated into Mechanized/Motorized units.
In this case, the AT weapons would be mounted/loaded onto vehicles that could easily transport/use them, thus being as fast or faster than other unit types. However, if you go this way, there would be no running or jumping to speak of.

[Immoren]

(Big Guns = Heavy = Soldiers bogged down by the weight)

Although AT-guns seem to be rare nowadays. *ends nitpicking*

[Novraslavia]

I'm going to work on my military from the beginning. You guys wouldn't mind helping me with it, would you? I'm almost done with the "People's Armed Forces of Novraslavia" (total military) infobox on WikiStates. When it's done, can you guys check it out for me?

[Immoren]

I'm going to work on my military from the beginning. You guys wouldn't mind helping me with it, would you? I'm almost done with the "People's Armed Forces of Novraslavia" (total military) infobox on WikiStates. When it's done, can you guys check it out for me?

I try to help as far as my knowledge gathered during my free time as hobby/pastime and during my military service allows.

[Novraslavia]

I'm going to work on my military from the beginning. You guys wouldn't mind helping me with it, would you? I'm almost done with the "People's Armed Forces of Novraslavia" (total military) infobox on WikiStates. When it's done, can you guys check it out for me?

I try to help as far as my knowledge gathered during my free time as hobby/pastime and during my military service allows.

Thanks. But do please note that my military is based of Eastern armed forces (particularly the Slovak ones), so organization will probably be a tad different.

[Immoren]

I try to help as far as my knowledge gathered during my free time as hobby/pastime and during my military service allows.

Thanks. But do please note that my military is based of Eastern armed forces (particularly the Slovak ones), so organization will probably be a tad different.

But there are still same things that apply to all armed forces.

I wonder wether Finnish Defense Forces constitutes as western armed force, eastern armed force or some kind of bastard hybrid of two previous.

[Trollakistan]

I'm thinking of giving my dedicated anti-tank squads missile/rocket launchers so they can have range, but I'm wondering if they'd still be able to run and jump at high speeds with the added weight from the weapons.

Gosh no. Period.
By nature Anti-Tank Infantry units are relatively slow in army deployments (Big Guns = Heavy = Soldiers bogged down by the weight), unless they are incorporated into Mechanized/Motorized units.
In this case, the AT weapons would be mounted/loaded onto vehicles that could easily transport/use them, thus being as fast or faster than other unit types. However, if you go this way, there would be no running or jumping to speak of.

Darn. Well is there any type of anti-vehicle guns that are lightweight and do not restrict mobility? My anti-tank sqauds' katanas will be useless if they can't close in on the enemy armour fast enough.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I try to help as far as my knowledge gathered during my free time as hobby/pastime and during my military service allows.

Thanks. But do please note that my military is based of Eastern armed forces (particularly the Slovak ones), so organization will probably be a tad different.

Eastern European forces, many being former Soviet satellite states, will probably have a great deal in common with Soviet doctrine. If there were two things the Soviets could do damned well, it was artillery and armoured doctrine.

[Immoren]

Gosh no. Period.
By nature Anti-Tank Infantry units are relatively slow in army deployments (Big Guns = Heavy = Soldiers bogged down by the weight), unless they are incorporated into Mechanized/Motorized units.
In this case, the AT weapons would be mounted/loaded onto vehicles that could easily transport/use them, thus being as fast or faster than other unit types. However, if you go this way, there would be no running or jumping to speak of.

Darn. Well is there any type of anti-vehicle guns that are lightweight and do not restrict mobility? My anti-tank sqauds' katanas will be useless if they can't close in on the enemy armour fast enough.

This?
Or this?

[DASHES]

Gosh no. Period.
By nature Anti-Tank Infantry units are relatively slow in army deployments (Big Guns = Heavy = Soldiers bogged down by the weight), unless they are incorporated into Mechanized/Motorized units.
In this case, the AT weapons would be mounted/loaded onto vehicles that could easily transport/use them, thus being as fast or faster than other unit types. However, if you go this way, there would be no running or jumping to speak of.

Darn. Well is there any type of anti-vehicle guns that are lightweight and do not restrict mobility? My anti-tank sqauds' katanas will be useless if they can't close in on the enemy armour fast enough.

The fact that your Armed Forces still use katanas is quite unrealistic in modern warfare.
Just forget about it entirely, and BAM! Speed problem solved.

[-St George]

Darn. Well is there any type of anti-vehicle guns that are lightweight and do not restrict mobility? My anti-tank sqauds' katanas will be useless if they can't close in on the enemy armour fast enough.

The fact that your Armed Forces still use katanas is quite unrealistic in modern warfare.
Just forget about it entirely, and BAM! Speed problem solved.

Or choose a smaller weapon. Katanas are bloody huge.

[Altaiire]

The fact that your Armed Forces still use katanas is quite unrealistic in modern warfare.
Just forget about it entirely, and BAM! Speed problem solved.

Or choose a smaller weapon. Katanas are bloody huge.

Pfft. the obvious solution is to make a katana so BIG it can whack a tank from a mile away! Which still wouldn't accomplish much except winning you the Guinness world record for longest katana.

[Hittanryan]

Got a question on total military size vs. a nation's total population. Let's say you had a state with a total population of 200 million, with total available manpower fit for military service around say...50 million. Would a military of 3 million active personnel be feasible if support roles were filled by universal conscription and combat roles were filled by volunteers?

If it's not feasible, what kind of total manpower would the country need to meet that quota?

If an army of 3 million is doable, what kind of reserves might the nation be able to call upon, if any? Could any army that size be equipped as well as say...the US military?