NS Military Realism Consultation Thread

[The Kievan People]

Doesn't seem very useful. Sounding like an airplane and kicking up snow everywhere you go will just lead to a fast death.

[The Corparation]

Doesn't seem very useful. Sounding like an airplane and kicking up snow everywhere you go will just lead to a fast death.

Russia used similar things in WW2, they would work well for scouting.Also they don't kick up snow. A bigger issue is sound. That video is silent, but there are others that aren't and the engines on those things can be pretty loud

[Yes Im Biop]

Ok this isnt really for Military, But it has to do with mine.


What would a 1.5mm Thick carbon fiber scale mixed with iron laced normal thichkness skin do for blades and low calliber shot?

[Galla-]

MBT-70 + T34-esque rocket mount = ???

inb4donealready

Also, nuclear warheads mean inaccuracy matters naught.

[Lubyak]

MBT-70 + T34-esque rocket mount = ???

inb4donealready

Also, nuclear warheads mean inaccuracy matters naught.

Actually, with nuclear warheads, accuracy matters a lot, espescially if you're going after hardened targets like command bunkers and missile silos.

[Galla-]

MBT-70 + T34-esque rocket mount = ???

inb4donealready

Also, nuclear warheads mean inaccuracy matters naught.

Actually, with nuclear warheads, accuracy matters a lot, espescially if you're going after hardened targets like command bunkers and missile silos.

2 KT warheads says u mad

and this isnt being used against hardened targets

it's being used against platoon and company sized elements, since it is a battalion level asset that is doled out to CABs companies as needed

it's a tactical asset for extra fire support, when divisional nuclear artillery isn't available for some reason

[The Kievan People]

Doesn't seem very useful. Sounding like an airplane and kicking up snow everywhere you go will just lead to a fast death.

Russia used similar things in WW2, they would work well for scouting.Also they don't kick up snow. A bigger issue is sound. That video is silent, but there are others that aren't and the engines on those things can be pretty loud

If your snow is that well packed, you don't even need a snow machine.

[Adventus Secundus]

for a population of 700 million, what is a realistic figure for a standing military? if the nation is very defensive/militaristic, but does not have compulsory service?

[Ularn]

for a population of 700 million, what is a realistic figure for a standing military? if the nation is very defensive/militaristic, but does not have compulsory service?

Take whatever the US military is and double it.

EDIT: Or take China's and half it.

[Yes Im Biop]

Ok this isnt really for Military, But it has to do with mine.


What would a 1.5mm Thick carbon fiber scale mixed with iron laced normal thichkness skin do for blades and low calliber shot?

Any ideas?

[Cyprum Xecuii]

Ok this isnt really for Military, But it has to do with mine.


What would a 1.5mm Thick carbon fiber scale mixed with iron laced normal thichkness skin do for blades and low calliber shot?

Any ideas?

fiber scale mixed with iron laced normal thickness skin?...explain?

if it's just a carbon ballistic plate then it would depend on how brittle it is for bullets. the strength of it should do something against some combat knives but I'm no expert...

[Yes Im Biop]

Any ideas?

fiber scale mixed with iron laced normal thickness skin?...explain?

if it's just a carbon ballistic plate then it would depend on how brittle it is for bullets. the strength of it should do something against some combat knives but I'm no expert...

The way i have it set out is that their bodies create protins that bond with Iron in their diet and form into skin cell plates.... yeah it sounds good on papar kind of

[The Akasha Colony]

So...in a nation of vast steppes that are covered in snow for almost 60% of the year...these any good?

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I might even fit a recoilless rifle or two on one... this spells tank-death.

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Aerosled Infantry - because where horses freeze the engine carries on.

Their tall profile would make them hard to hide and easy to hit, relative to a conventional snowmobile. It'd have at least the same amount of noise as a normal snowmobile, but with a more vulnerable engine and propulsor. If you've got MT, then more conventional snowmobiles would be a better choice, which is why they replaced aerosani in real-life. Even the Russians no longer use them.

[The New Imperia]

Just curious, do you guys think there is a way to successfully RP maneuver warfare against someone else? If so, how?

[Vault 1]

What would a 1.5mm Thick carbon fiber scale mixed with iron laced normal thichkness skin do for blades and low calliber shot?

Poor effectiveness. Kevlar is much better.

Also, "scale"? "Iron laced" skin? I don't really want to know though.

[San-Silvacian]

Just curious, do you guys think there is a way to successfully RP maneuver warfare against someone else? If so, how?

Typically try to mask their movements in your posts, or try to come to an agreement OCC.

[The UK in Exile]

Just curious, do you guys think there is a way to successfully RP maneuver warfare against someone else? If so, how?

what about maneuver warfare makes it difficult to roleplay?

[Transnapastain]

Just curious, do you guys think there is a way to successfully RP maneuver warfare against someone else? If so, how?

Typically try to mask their movements in your posts, or try to come to an agreement OCC.

or try to come to an agreement OCC.

come to an agreement OCC.

This...this answers any problem in an RP and should be the first thing you do, ever. Anyone who thinks they can "win" NS, and plays as such, isn't worth the time, or fun to play with.

Opinion here, but I think the only way to really have a true, fair competitive RP here is to have a neutral third party literally moderate the RP, and determine who wins the engagements through their displays of tactics and knowledge, or a party to run it ala a D&D game.

I'm sure some actually competitive RPs have been successful, but we all know the majority of them end in bawing, bitching flaming and redtext.

[San-Silvacian]

Just curious, do you guys think there is a way to successfully RP maneuver warfare against someone else? If so, how?

what about maneuver warfare makes it difficult to roleplay?

"I move 2 armored battalions to the flank of your infantry division under the cover of night during an artillery barrage from my center and left batteries along with diversionary infantry attacks."

"I r magic see tanks and suddenry deploy anti-tank guise and ki11 your tanks cuz I read y0ur post."

See?

[The UK in Exile]

what about maneuver warfare makes it difficult to roleplay?

"I move 2 armored battalions to the flank of your infantry division under the cover of night during an artillery barrage from my center and left batteries along with diversionary infantry attacks."

"I r magic see tanks and suddenry deploy anti-tank guise and ki11 your tanks cuz I read y0ur post."

See?

1. thats not maneuver warfare. thats a tactical manuever.
2. I don't see how that differs from attritional warfare RP difficulties. fundamentally the problem is bad RP. not MW.
3. part of that discriptions hints to me that the problem is Role players don't fully understand Manuever warfare.

[San-Silvacian]

"I move 2 armored battalions to the flank of your infantry division under the cover of night during an artillery barrage from my center and left batteries along with diversionary infantry attacks."

"I r magic see tanks and suddenry deploy anti-tank guise and ki11 your tanks cuz I read y0ur post."

See?

1. thats not maneuver warfare. thats a tactical manuever.
2. I don't see how that differs from attritional warfare RP difficulties. fundamentally the problem is bad RP. not MW.
3. part of that discriptions hints to me that the problem is Role players don't fully understand Manuever warfare.

Germany posts that it moves though Belgium to hit the side of France's troops.

France deploys anti-tank to meet Germany's armor that since they read that Germany moved though Belgium.

[The UK in Exile]

1. thats not maneuver warfare. thats a tactical manuever.
2. I don't see how that differs from attritional warfare RP difficulties. fundamentally the problem is bad RP. not MW.
3. part of that discriptions hints to me that the problem is Role players don't fully understand Manuever warfare.

Germany posts that it moves though Belgium to hit the side of France's troops.

France deploys anti-tank to meet Germany's armor that since they read that Germany moved though Belgium.

my reply has not changed.

[San-Silvacian]

I lost.

[Spirit of Hope]

Actually, with nuclear warheads, accuracy matters a lot, espescially if you're going after hardened targets like command bunkers and missile silos.

2 KT warheads says u mad

and this isnt being used against hardened targets

it's being used against platoon and company sized elements, since it is a battalion level asset that is doled out to CABs companies as needed

it's a tactical asset for extra fire support, when divisional nuclear artillery isn't available for some reason

Do you use nuclear artillery often? Seams like a good way to start a nice big nuclear exchange, but that can be overcome with OOC.
Probably wouldn't have mush range, so the tank would have to get close to the front lines while standing out as a sore thumb.
Last as a battalion level asset, along with nuclear artillery warfare must be expensive for you really expensive.

Also, I'm done with Finals YAY!!!!

[The New Imperia]

Just curious, do you guys think there is a way to successfully RP maneuver warfare against someone else? If so, how?

what about maneuver warfare makes it difficult to roleplay?

Either the person under attack believes his army is still organized and has a full grasp of absolutely everything that is going on, or the person doing the attacking has only advanced his forces and really did nothing that could bewilder the defender, but still claims his actions should.

But the other guy gave a good answer, "come up with an OOC agreement"