NS Military Realism Consultation Thread

[Atelia]

ok so as long as i have light armour and have only an 145mm gun how fast would it go.

about 70km/h on road, 45km/h off road, assuming you have tracks.

If you are talking about a wheeled vehicle then road speed climbs to about 100km/h with off road speeds a roughly simialr to a bit bit slower than an equivelent tracked vehicle.

thank you.

[The UK in Exile]

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This image should help.

If you notice the two catapults on the side, one is placed behind the other, but, that is just to make room for the aresstor cables. If you put two aircraft on both launchers and fired them off at once, they'd hit, or at least, the second one off would get baked by the after burner of the first. You would have to fire off the first, then the second, as firing the second would tear into the firsts wings off, and jet fuel + live ordinance + explosion = bad for you, good for you enemy.

Another thing, I've never seen them launch more than one aircraft at a time. From what I understand from a friend who served on carriers during the 90s, they only launched one aircraft at a time with a second ready to launch as to allow the majority of the launching crews to be focused on the launching aircraft to greatly reduce the chances of a safety hazard. This might also be because the right one is angled into the path of the left one, meaning that the aircraft may clear each other during takeoff, but might impact right after getting off the deck.

Plus, the two launchers off to the side are typically not used and reserved for helicopters to take off and land and seeing as how common submarines are used on NS, you'd be close to stupid if you didn't have even 2 SH-60 or equivalents there loaded with ASW gear.

How about in quick succession like The Corporation said? That would be enough for me.

easy peasy. notice how the propeller aircraft moves across the path of the other catapult.

[San-Silvacian]

How about in quick succession like The Corporation said? That would be enough for me.

easy peasy. notice how the propeller aircraft moves across the path of the other catapult.

Note how they wait for the aircraft to be out of visual range before launching another, and how little time it takes to ready, launch, and bring another up.

[San-Silvacian]

I know, double post.

Would it be at all possible to take an upgrade M41 Walker-Bulldog Light Tank and add NERA and an ADS?

[Vitaphone Racing]

I know, double post.

Would it be at all possible to take an upgrade M41 Walker-Bulldog Light Tank and add NERA and an ADS?

It doesn't matter what you're upgrading, it's often cheaper, more effective and more reliable to design a new one from scratch. There isn't a single thing in that tank that wouldn't need overhaul. You're going to have to redesign everything.

[Galla-]

I know, double post.

Would it be at all possible to take an upgrade M41 Walker-Bulldog Light Tank and add NERA and an ADS?

Only if you give it a 90mm gun and use solely HEAT rounds for AT work.

Modern, tandem 90mm HEAT can penetrate ~800mm RHA + ERA.

Also NERA is worthless on something that old, doubly so for APS. Just give it a 90mm gun, an IR lamp, a SINGCARS compatible radio, and a decent daysight/rangefinder. Make the rangefinder stadiametric to reduce cost for electronics.

[San-Silvacian]

I know, double post.

Would it be at all possible to take an upgrade M41 Walker-Bulldog Light Tank and add NERA and an ADS?

It doesn't matter what you're upgrading, it's often cheaper, more effective and more reliable to design a new one from scratch. There isn't a single thing in that tank that wouldn't need overhaul. You're going to have to redesign everything.

What I'm suggesting is that during a pinch, say, you go into war with a Communist nation that has an army around 2-3 times your size, could to start going down the line of mothballed armor fleets and doing quick additions to them to make them battle ready.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Strategic advance through the Balkans under the cover of gratuitous amounts of tactical nukes, y/n? Assume Soviet Front-sized operations.

[Galla-]

It doesn't matter what you're upgrading, it's often cheaper, more effective and more reliable to design a new one from scratch. There isn't a single thing in that tank that wouldn't need overhaul. You're going to have to redesign everything.

What I'm suggesting is that during a pinch, say, you go into war with a Communist nation that has an army around 2-3 times your size, could to start going down the line of mothballed armor fleets and doing quick additions to them to make them battle ready.

rly why are you relying on tanks with no modern optics at all, and not nuclear weapons?

[San-Silvacian]

What I'm suggesting is that during a pinch, say, you go into war with a Communist nation that has an army around 2-3 times your size, could to start going down the line of mothballed armor fleets and doing quick additions to them to make them battle ready.

rly why are you relying on tanks with no modern optics at all, and not nuclear weapons?

Logic.

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

rly why are you relying on tanks with no modern optics at all, and not nuclear weapons?

Logic.

Why are you arguing against yourself?

[Vitaphone Racing]

It doesn't matter what you're upgrading, it's often cheaper, more effective and more reliable to design a new one from scratch. There isn't a single thing in that tank that wouldn't need overhaul. You're going to have to redesign everything.

What I'm suggesting is that during a pinch, say, you go into war with a Communist nation that has an army around 2-3 times your size, could to start going down the line of mothballed armor fleets and doing quick additions to them to make them battle ready.

Adding NERA and an ADS isn't a quick addition however, particularly not to the M41 tank.

The Japanese can, and do, produce cars in 6 hours flat starting from scratch. If you turned your factories up to 11, you could probably keep production times of tanks to less than a week.

[Ularn]

What I'm suggesting is that during a pinch, say, you go into war with a Communist nation that has an army around 2-3 times your size, could to start going down the line of mothballed armor fleets and doing quick additions to them to make them battle ready.

Adding NERA and an ADS isn't a quick addition however, particularly not to the M41 tank.

The Japanese can, and do, produce cars in 6 hours flat starting from scratch. If you turned your factories up to 11, you could probably keep production times of tanks to less than a week.

I assume that's six hours assembly time and not six hours manufacturing the parts? I'd imagine that if you're factoring it the time to forge the metal and so on you'd be looking at a fair bit more than six hours.

[San-Silvacian]

Modern, top o' the line tanks or slightly derped down variants?

[Galla-]

rly why are you relying on tanks with no modern optics at all, and not nuclear weapons?

Logic.

So basically you should be using nuclear weapons and not relying on tanks that are 3-4 times older than you?

Nuclear weapons should be the first line of defence against any aggressor tbh.

Modern, top o' the line tanks or slightly derped down variants?

I'm assuming you have a very large, aggressive neighbour.

In that case, the choice is painfully obvious.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Adding NERA and an ADS isn't a quick addition however, particularly not to the M41 tank.

The Japanese can, and do, produce cars in 6 hours flat starting from scratch. If you turned your factories up to 11, you could probably keep production times of tanks to less than a week.

I assume that's six hours assembly time and not six hours manufacturing the parts? I'd imagine that if you're factoring it the time to forge the metal and so on you'd be looking at a fair bit more than six hours.

Correct, but you do that at a seperate factory on a seperate line so it doesn't interfere with the assembly time. You make the tank by components and then put them all together just like you do with anything. The engine, gun, fire control systems, tracks and armour would probably all be made at different plants.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Modern, top o' the line tanks or slightly derped down variants?

Unless you have your top of the line tanks with hand built engines or hand stiched leather seats, difference in times between the two aren't going to make top of the line tanks unjustifiable. As I said above, cars, trucks, buses, tanks, trains, planes etc are made in components and then assembled. If demand is high, supply will rise to meet it.

[San-Silvacian]

Nuclear weapons should be the first line of defence against any aggressor tbh.

wat

Modern, top o' the line tanks or slightly derped down variants?

Unless you have your top of the line tanks with hand built engines or hand stiched leather seats, difference in times between the two aren't going to make top of the line tanks unjustifiable. As I said above, cars, trucks, buses, tanks, trains, planes etc are made in components and then assembled. If demand is high, supply will rise to meet it.

Alright.

[Galla-]

Nuclear weapons should be the first line of defence against any aggressor tbh.

wat

wat are you wating about

[San-Silvacian]

wat

wat are you wating about

Nuclear weapons should be the first line of defence against any aggressor tbh

That.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Strategic advance through the Balkans under the cover of gratuitous amounts of tactical nukes, y/n? Assume Soviet Front-sized operations.

Ahem Gents.

[San-Silvacian]

Strategic advance through the Balkans under the cover of gratuitous amounts of tactical nukes, y/n? Assume Soviet Front-sized operations.

Ahem Gents.

As long as you have ample NBC gear and don't mind a little tingle in your tummy.

Sure.

[Galla-]

wat are you wating about

Nuclear weapons should be the first line of defence against any aggressor tbh

That.

there's nothing to wat about

tis true as anything else

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Ahem Gents.

As long as you have ample NBC gear and don't mind a little tingle in your tummy.

Sure.

It's for stopping a certain personage of infamy called GEIJD, of course I'll be having second thoughts.

[San-Silvacian]

As long as you have ample NBC gear and don't mind a little tingle in your tummy.

Sure.

It's for stopping a certain personage of infamy called GEIJD, of course I'll be having second thoughts.

Him?

Pfffft. Sit back, chuck a few Minutemen, then just carpet bomb with nuclear bombs.

Nuke. Nuke everything.