NS Military Realism Consultation Thread

[The New Imperia]

EDIT: Broken Link, looking for a new one
^This thing. can i put it in a fighter? (F22 specifically)

I put it in my factbook a while ago, but i'm yet to RP with it so i would like to know if i have a green light.

I see BAE moving all their shit around got you, too.
Also, is this what you want?

yeah that's it

[Transnapastain]

I see BAE moving all their shit around got you, too.
Also, is this what you want?

yeah that's it

Maybe not that particular model, it appears to be optimized for helicopters, and I know others were made specifically for large aircraft like transports or passenger craft. However, a quick glance at Google tells me that the F-35 is supposed to received 360 protection DIRCM devices in production, so it appears the technology can be applied to fighters. Also, I looked in my factbook and found that I have one developed for fighters, but I can't recall what RL product I based it on. Tomorrow, when I'm on my laptop, I'll see if I can track it down and TG you...if I remember.

[The New Imperia]

yeah that's it

Maybe not that particular model, it appears to be optimized for helicopters, and I know others were made specifically for large aircraft like transports or passenger craft. However, a quick glance at Google tells me that the F-35 is supposed to received 360 protection DIRCM devices in production, so it appears the technology can be applied to fighters. Also, I looked in my factbook and found that I have one developed for fighters, but I can't recall what RL product I based it on. Tomorrow, when I'm on my laptop, I'll see if I can track it down and TG you...if I remember.

thanks... potentially. no but really thanks

[The Corparation]

Ohh I have something new to integrate into the ATAL. Just have to figure a way to mount it effectively and keep the RCS down.

[Yes Im Biop]

That Artillery Rifle thing i mentioned a while back

The Man Portable Ballistic Artillery Unit .75 (aka. "Deliverance") is a quite big anti-material rifle/light artillery gun.

The main feature of the Deliverance is the possibility to easily disassemble its parts. Disassembled it weights about 15kg and can be transported in a 100x50cm bag or case, allowing groups of two or three or even a lone sniper to transport it to points that wouldn't be accessible to larger squads or vehicles.

Also the Deliverance load warheads and propellants in separated compartments, allowing the shooter to choose different propellants and projectiles, including anti-armor ammo, explosive ammo, anti-infantry ammo and others.

Its immense caliber also means a big recoil, so the gun is equipped with hydraulic pumps to receive part of the recoil (like tank cannons), and a quad-pod that holds the gun in place like bigger artillery guns, transferring part of the recoil force to the ground.

[The Kievan People]

Lamest artillery ever.

It's just an anti-material rifle on a silly tripod that prevents it from being concealed properly.

[Allanea]

Why not just fire a 30mm grenade launcher over the horizon?

[San-Silvacian]

Name: Bastion Class Fast Battleship
Type: Fast Battleship
Displacement (Full): 65,000 tons
Length: (Overall): 930 feet
Beam: (Overall): 135 feet
Design Draught: 38 feet
Complement: 300 Officers, 1,600 Enlisted
Propulsion: 3 shaft COGAG, 6 General Electric LM2500+ 40,200hp (28.6MW)
Flank Speed: 36 knots
Cruise Speed: 30 knots
Range: 10,400 kilometers at 22 knots
Armament:
x10 16"/45 Mark 7s (One 4 gunned turret, 2 3 gun turrets)
x4 5"/54 Mark 45s
x5 Phalanx Block 1Bs
x2 SeaRAMs
x2 Mk-41 'Strike' VLS cells (128 Missiles)
x2 Mk-48 (16 cells each) (32 ESSM)
x8 20mm/70 Oerlikon Mark 4s
x10 GAU-16 0.50" Brownings
Countermeasures: SEWIP ECM/Missile Warning, x8 Seagnat Launchers, Surface Ship Torpedo Defences
Protection: 8 to 13 inches
Sensors: SAMPSON 3D multi-function Active Electronically Scanned Array radar, S1850M Early Warning Radar, Various gun-directors, Saab 9LV FCS,
Aircraft: None, has landing deck
Cost: 18,000,000,000USD

[Seperate Vermont]

How practical is it for my nation of 500,000 to operate the following? Would there be a more advisable/cost effective alternative?

(The VF-5, as could probably be guessed, is a domestic production model of the F-5)

[The Seven Realms]

That Artillery Rifle thing i mentioned a while back

The Man Portable Ballistic Artillery Unit .75 (aka. "Deliverance") is a quite big anti-material rifle/light artillery gun.

The main feature of the Deliverance is the possibility to easily disassemble its parts. Disassembled it weights about 15kg and can be transported in a 100x50cm bag or case, allowing groups of two or three or even a lone sniper to transport it to points that wouldn't be accessible to larger squads or vehicles.

Also the Deliverance load warheads and propellants in separated compartments, allowing the shooter to choose different propellants and projectiles, including anti-armor ammo, explosive ammo, anti-infantry ammo and others.

Its immense caliber also means a big recoil, so the gun is equipped with hydraulic pumps to receive part of the recoil (like tank cannons), and a quad-pod that holds the gun in place like bigger artillery guns, transferring part of the recoil force to the ground.

How about a commando mortar?

[San-Silvacian]

How practical is it for my nation of 500,000 to operate the following? Would there be a more advisable/cost effective alternative?

(The VF-5, as could probably be guessed, is a domestic production model of the F-5)

I'd suggest a nationalized police force that operates lower-end APCs, a few helicopters, and a cutter or two.

[The Corparation]

How practical is it for my nation of 500,000 to operate the following? Would there be a more advisable/cost effective alternative?

(The VF-5, as could probably be guessed, is a domestic production model of the F-5)

For the air force stuff just to start off:
-Ditch the CL-84s they were mostly just for testing. Go with something like a C-23 Sherpa for a light STOL transport.
-Introducing a scout helicopter or two would be nice nut not necessarily needed. Same goes for a medium or heavy lift chopper.
- Also you'll probably want a larger transport then what you have.
-Operating a light attack jet or two like the A-37 wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Crookfur]

How practical is it for my nation of 500,000 to operate the following? Would there be a more advisable/cost effective alternative?

(The VF-5, as could probably be guessed, is a domestic production model of the F-5)

jets are right out and aircraft wise you are looking at about 2-6 light utility aircraft and helicopters

as a rough suggestion for a high end soltuion you could look at 3 AC-208 Combat Caravans (i.e. cessna caravans with imaging turrets and hellfires) a wee basic trainer or two and a couple of 412s/ EC135s

Low end you ditch the armed aircraft and operate a varied bunch of light twin prop ultility aircraft alognside a pair of helicopters.

20 gunboasts could be too much or two little, its probably too high if any of them are in the 200ft class but it could be fine if they are basically armed RHiBs.

[San-Silvacian]

How practical is it for my nation of 500,000 to operate the following? Would there be a more advisable/cost effective alternative?

(The VF-5, as could probably be guessed, is a domestic production model of the F-5)

For the air force stuff just to start off:
-Ditch the CL-84s they were mostly just for testing. Go with something like a C-23 Sherpa for a light STOL transport.
-Introducing a scout helicopter or two would be nice nut not necessarily needed. Same goes for a medium or heavy lift chopper.
- Also you'll probably want a larger transport then what you have.
-Operating a light attack jet or two like the A-37 wouldn't be a bad idea.

He doesn't have enough troops for that.

[The Corparation]

For the air force stuff just to start off:
-Ditch the CL-84s they were mostly just for testing. Go with something like a C-23 Sherpa for a light STOL transport.
-Introducing a scout helicopter or two would be nice nut not necessarily needed. Same goes for a medium or heavy lift chopper.
- Also you'll probably want a larger transport then what you have.
-Operating a light attack jet or two like the A-37 wouldn't be a bad idea.

He doesn't have enough troops for that.

OH damn I didn't see the troop level.
IN that case you'll probably want a few STOL transports like the C-23 I mentioned or go even smaller with a Twin Otter or An-2
For ground attack just strap some rockets or missiles to a small Cessna. You really can't operate much more then that.

[Seperate Vermont]

How practical is it for my nation of 500,000 to operate the following? Would there be a more advisable/cost effective alternative?

(The VF-5, as could probably be guessed, is a domestic production model of the F-5)

jets are right out and aircraft wise you are looking at about 2-6 light utility aircraft and helicopters

as a rough suggestion for a high end soltuion you could look at 3 AC-208 Combat Caravans (i.e. cessna caravans with imaging turrets and hellfires) a wee basic trainer or two and a couple of 412s/ EC135s

Low end you ditch the armed aircraft and operate a varied bunch of light twin prop ultility aircraft alognside a pair of helicopters.

20 gunboasts could be too much or two little, its probably too high if any of them are in the 200ft class but it could be fine if they are basically armed RHiBs.

With gunboats, they are all under the 50ft class and mostly meant for lake/river patrol.

Would the T-37 or the CT-114 fulfill the fixed-wing 'basic trainer' role, or should I be looking at a scaled down prop trainer?

With that,

- 2 T-37s or CT-114s
- 2 Bell 412s
- 2 Low-cost twin prop utility craft

[San-Silvacian]

Anyone going to look over my battleship?

[Seperate Vermont]

Aircraft: None, has landing deck

I'm assuming for helicopters?

[The Corparation]

Aircraft: None, has landing deck

I'm assuming for helicopters?

No, its obviously for Zero-Length-Launching of supersonic bombers in the true spirit of NS.

[Transnapastain]

I'm assuming for helicopters?

No, its obviously for Zero-Length-Launching of supersonic bombers in the true spirit of NS.

lol

/ me waits for RRoan and her picture to appear.

[The Corparation]

No, its obviously for Zero-Length-Launching of supersonic bombers in the true spirit of NS.

lol

/ me waits for RRoan and her picture to appear.

Obviously. That's the single greatest warship ever created.

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

haters gonna hate

fast-attack-craft in the six-megatonne range fuckyeah

[The Kievan People]

Strapping VLS cells to a battleship does not make them a good idea again.

^Edit: Rroan's creation excepted.

[San-Silvacian]

Strapping VLS cells to a battleship does not make them a good idea again.

^Edit: Rroan's creation excepted.

The battleships just a shore bombardment thing anyway.

And every military needs cool over practicality factor anyway.

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

mine is totally 'k because the guns are like extra-huge HARP guns

gun-launched FOBS for GLORY

what's that?

your missiles have longer ranges than cannon?

LOLNO