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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed May 02, 2012 7:58 pm

Allanea wrote:Put 500 people in a closed room and pump in some chlorine, then call me back with the results.


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Postby United Districts of 1 » Wed May 02, 2012 8:00 pm

Whats a well balanced amphibious APC?
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Postby Vault 1 » Wed May 02, 2012 8:46 pm

Yuzhno Rossiya wrote:Is there a realistic reason to adopt a 20mm anti-material rifle such as the NTW-20 (or the Vidhwansak in my case because South Africa is our enemy but India is not and can supply us with pretty much the same thing) when the KSVK is already in use?

All three have their uses.

12.7mm or .50 - Dual-purpose light AMR that doubles as a long-range sniper rifle.
14.5mm - Penetrates light armored vehicles. Does not double as a sniper rifle.
20mm - Best at damaging unprotected equipment due to explosive rounds. Does not penetrate armored vehicles. Does not double as a sniper rifle.

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Postby Questers » Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 pm

Corps Headquarters
- 4 Mechanised Regimental Battle Groups
--- 3 Mech Rifle Battalions (APC)
--- 1 Tank Battalion
--- 1 Artillery Battalion
--- 1 Support Company
--- 1 Recce Company
--- 1 Engineer Company
--- 1 Air Defence Company
- 2 Tank Regimental Battle Groups
--- 3 Tank Battalions,
--- 1 Mech Rifle Battalion (IFV)
--- 1 Artillery Battalion
--- 1 Support Company
--- 1 Recce Company
--- 1 Engineer Company
--- 1 Air Defence Company
- 2 Artillery Regimental Battle Groups
--- 2 SPG Battalions
--- 2 Rocket Battalions
--- 1 Mech Battalion (IFV)
--- 1 Air Defence Battalion
--- 1 Support Company
--- 1 Recce Company
--- 1 Engineer Company
- 1 Missile Battalion
- 1 Rocket Battalion
- 1 Helicopter Squadron
- 1 Airmobile Battalion
- 1 Reconaissance Battalion
- 1 Anti Tank Battalion
- 1 Engineer Battalion
- 1 Independent Tank Company
- 1 Support Battalion
- 1 Transport Battalion
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Thu May 03, 2012 3:57 am

Vault 1 wrote:14.5mm - Penetrates light armored vehicles. Does not double as a sniper rifle.
20mm - Best at damaging unprotected equipment due to explosive rounds. Does not penetrate armored vehicles. Does not double as a sniper rifle.

Theoretically, they could double as sniper rifles, though I will admit, killing a guy with a 20mm slug is overkill.
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Postby The Reliquary » Thu May 03, 2012 4:00 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Any suggestions for a non-digicam? Lizard, splinter, rabbit suit, etcetera?

British DPM is pretty damn good.
Or MTP if you need 'new'.

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Postby Vault 1 » Thu May 03, 2012 4:19 am

Central and Eastern Visayas wrote:Theoretically, they could double as sniper rifles, though I will admit, killing a guy with a 20mm slug is overkill.

You get better probability of killing someone with a .50 BMG (that hits) than with a 20mm (that misses).
20mm has the worst ballistics of the three, it's the slowest and the least accurate. And its explosive effects are not powerful enough to count on near misses.

There's also the whole thing with weight of ammunition and gun size. It's just way past the threshold to carry and use it as a SR, while .50 is borderline.
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Postby Transnapastain » Thu May 03, 2012 5:20 am

United Districts of 1 wrote:Whats a well balanced amphibious APC?


BTR-90?

Should I be expecting them in the near future? :P

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Postby Immoren » Thu May 03, 2012 5:46 am

United Districts of 1 wrote:Whats a well balanced amphibious APC?


XA-180/XA-185. If amphibious in this context means "can cross lakes, slow moving rivers and other inland bodies of water".
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu May 03, 2012 10:33 am

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The percentage dead as a percentage of gas casualties was HIGHER than conventional lethal chemical weapons so... fentanyl has significant weaponization potential as a super fast acting non-persistent agent.

OFC as Allanea pointed out proper treatment would have changed the outcome, but so does proper treatment of any chemical casualty.


This isn't a fair comparison. Fentanyl was in this case deployed by pumping it into an enclosed room, where dozens of people were seated around a the ventilation pipe outlet.

It can't be compared to regular chemical weapon use in the open.

Put 500 people in a closed room and pump in some chlorine, then call me back with the results.


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Postby Allanea » Thu May 03, 2012 10:44 am

United Districts of 1 wrote:Whats a well balanced amphibious APC?


Why are we landing people in APCs?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu May 03, 2012 1:12 pm

The Reliquary wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Any suggestions for a non-digicam? Lizard, splinter, rabbit suit, etcetera?

British DPM is pretty damn good.
Or MTP if you need 'new'.

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Postby United Districts of 1 » Thu May 03, 2012 1:13 pm

Allanea wrote:
United Districts of 1 wrote:Whats a well balanced amphibious APC?


Why are we landing people in APCs?


Because the beach has been secured by forward elements and it's time to deploy large amounts of troops onto the beach which is otherwise inaccesible by larger landing craft.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 03, 2012 1:21 pm

A hovercraft will be able to land on more beaches than an APC.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu May 03, 2012 1:21 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Allanea wrote:
Why are we landing people in APCs?


Because the beach has been secured by forward elements and it's time to deploy large amounts of troops onto the beach which is otherwise inaccesible by larger landing craft.

If you can land APCs you can land LCACs or LCUs.
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Thu May 03, 2012 1:23 pm

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Because the beach has been secured by forward elements and it's time to deploy large amounts of troops onto the beach which is otherwise inaccesible by larger landing craft.

If you can land APCs you can land LCACs or LCUs.


Ok, now that I have that out of the way, would it be wise to build in a small electronic warfare suite into my MBT?
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu May 03, 2012 1:24 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:If you can land APCs you can land LCACs or LCUs.


Ok, now that I have that out of the way, would it be wise to build in a small electronic warfare suite into my MBT?

What is your MBT?
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 03, 2012 1:25 pm

Only if by electronic warfare you mean laser beams.
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Postby Allanea » Thu May 03, 2012 1:27 pm

Aren't there some jamming suites for tanks intended to screw with ATGMs?
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Thu May 03, 2012 1:28 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
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Ok, now that I have that out of the way, would it be wise to build in a small electronic warfare suite into my MBT?

What is your MBT?


It's my own additions on a Leopard chassis with a lower and shorter turret with the gun more sunken into the turret. 20mm housed in a stout turret.
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Thu May 03, 2012 1:30 pm

woops, meant shorter not longer.
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu May 03, 2012 1:32 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:What is your MBT?


It's my own additions on a Leopard chassis with a lower and shorter turret with the gun more sunken into the turret. 20mm housed in a stout turret.

Not familiar with the Leopard family.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Thu May 03, 2012 2:33 pm

United Districts of 1 wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:What is your MBT?


It's my own additions on a Leopard chassis with a lower and shorter turret with the gun more sunken into the turret. 20mm housed in a stout turret.


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Postby Questers » Thu May 03, 2012 2:36 pm

Allanea wrote:Aren't there some jamming suites for tanks intended to screw with ATGMs?
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Postby United Districts of 1 » Thu May 03, 2012 2:52 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
United Districts of 1 wrote:
It's my own additions on a Leopard chassis with a lower and shorter turret with the gun more sunken into the turret. 20mm housed in a stout turret.


Leopard 1 or 2?


Leopard 2a5
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Exactly! He killed a lot of frenchmen- something any englishman should aspire to!
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