All the World's Dreadnoughts

[Romanium Imperium]

Class Name: Julius Caesar-class Heavy Battleship
Displacement (standard): 45,773 tonnes
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 3x6 15.1" main guns
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 16.1"
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): Belt: 16.1
Bulkheads: 8.9"
Barbettes: 6.7"
Turrets: 11.0"
Decks: 8.7"
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Steam Turbine
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Coal Fired
Speed (in knots): 16 knots(cruise) 22 knots (top speed)
Endurance (in nmi): 3,298 nautical miles at 20 knots
Year in service: 1942 - Present
Year last unit retired or sunk: RS - Constantinople - Sunk 9 September 1943
Number of units: 3 - RS Roma - RS Constantinople - RS Ostia

[Kelwona]

Class Name: Iberian Class Battleship
Displacement (standard): 29,150 tons
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 8 x 15" SK L/45 Naval Gun
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 13 in
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): Incremental
Powerplant Type: Steam Turbine
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: Coal Fired
Speed (in knots): 20 Knots
Endurance (in nmi): 5,000 nmi at 12 knots
Year in service: 1917
Year last unit retired or sunk: N/A (One remains commisioned as museum ship.)
Number of units: 9

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

On 20,000 tonnes with up to 15" of incremental armour on the belt, I'm going to take a guess at, "one".

Similarly, the Kaiserin Class has sixteen >20" guns on just 64,000t? Not... twice that? Several thousand tons lighter than the Yamato with 7 more guns of significantly greater bore? And the Amon Ra, 8x22" and the better part of 20" armour in various parts, only 47,000t?

I thought Soviet engineers working in the 1990s and 2000s had done a good job getting a dozen 16"ers on ~63,000 (>71,000 full) and was wondering whether I should bump up the displacement slightly, but on the same displacement there are ships with four more guns of almost 4" greater calibre. Colour me skeptical!

You could probably get a pair of 20" on 20,000 tons, if the turrets were lightweight and the armor belt either mostly way below its maximum thickness or very short. Something like HMS Furious (non-carrier configuration) trading some speed for armor and bigger guns. She comes across more like a fast monitor than a true battleship.

The Kaiserin is a little ridiculous. I think the author doesn't have a lot of experience with battleship designs - the displacement was blank until his second edit - so I think if he happens to read this and revise his post to have double the currently posited displacement it would greatly enhance the realism of his design.

Amon Ra is the least bad of the three, mostly because of all the weight saved by being so dang slow and having two quads instead of four twins. Still, her displacement could be doubled and her realism wouldn't suffer.

Your ship doesn't ring any "wat" bells with me. She's a little below the median of displacement for those capabilities, but within the realistic range.

I think my policy for this thread is going to be add what is posted, and that unrealistic claims can be dismissed by individual readers as propaganda, if they so choose.

All of them are pretty insane. Just to compare some stats.
Name..............Displacement.................Armament...............Armour................Speed
Amon Ra...........51,808.......................8x22 in................19.8 in...............14 knots
Acquisition.......22,206.......................22x20 in...............15 in...................25 knots
Kaiserin..........64,000.......................12x20 in................16.5 in................20 knots
Yamato............65,000.......................9x18 in.................16 in.................27 knots
Bismark...........42,000.......................8x15 in.................13 in..................30 knots
H44...............131,000......................8x20 in.................12 in (H39)...........30 knots
Iowa..............45,000.......................9x16 in.................12 in...................33 knots

Now looking at them quickly, the only ships that come close to comparing the the NS ships are the Yamato and the H44, which was just a scetch and some basic stats pretty much. Now, the H44 is less well armed than every one of them, the Kaiserin having 4 more guns, the Acquisition having almost tripple as many, and the Amon Ra having the same number, but with a 2 in greater bore diamete. When it comes to armour they all would have likely passed such a ship, despite the fact that every one of them had a displacement at most only 1/2 the H44s. Really they are nothing but outright wank and should have their displacements at least tripled, with the Acquisition having its increased by 5 or 6 times what it currently is.

[Inutoland]

[SNIP!]
All of them are pretty insane. Just to compare some stats.
Name..............Displacement.................Armament...............Armour................Speed
Amon Ra...........51,808.......................8x22 in................19.8 in...............14 knots
Acquisition.......22,206.......................22x20 in...............15 in...................25 knots
Kaiserin..........64,000.......................12x20 in................16.5 in................20 knots
Yamato............65,000.......................9x18 in.................16 in.................27 knots
Bismark...........42,000.......................8x15 in.................13 in..................30 knots
H44...............131,000......................8x20 in.................12 in (H39)...........30 knots
Iowa..............45,000.......................9x16 in.................12 in...................33 knots

Now looking at them quickly, the only ships that come close to comparing the the NS ships are the Yamato and the H44, which was just a scetch and some basic stats pretty much. Now, the H44 is less well armed than every one of them, the Kaiserin having 4 more guns, the Acquisition having almost tripple as many, and the Amon Ra having the same number, but with a 2 in greater bore diamete. When it comes to armour they all would have likely passed such a ship, despite the fact that every one of them had a displacement at most only 1/2 the H44s. Really they are nothing but outright wank and should have their displacements at least tripled, with the Acquisition having its increased by 5 or 6 times what it currently is.

My ships DON'T make the "insane" list... Woohooh!

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

[SNIP!]
All of them are pretty insane. Just to compare some stats.
Name..............Displacement.................Armament...............Armour................Speed
Amon Ra...........51,808.......................8x22 in................19.8 in...............14 knots
Acquisition.......22,206.......................22x20 in...............15 in...................25 knots
Kaiserin..........64,000.......................12x20 in................16.5 in................20 knots
Yamato............65,000.......................9x18 in.................16 in.................27 knots
Bismark...........42,000.......................8x15 in.................13 in..................30 knots
H44...............131,000......................8x20 in.................12 in (H39)...........30 knots
Iowa..............45,000.......................9x16 in.................12 in...................33 knots

Now looking at them quickly, the only ships that come close to comparing the the NS ships are the Yamato and the H44, which was just a scetch and some basic stats pretty much. Now, the H44 is less well armed than every one of them, the Kaiserin having 4 more guns, the Acquisition having almost tripple as many, and the Amon Ra having the same number, but with a 2 in greater bore diamete. When it comes to armour they all would have likely passed such a ship, despite the fact that every one of them had a displacement at most only 1/2 the H44s. Really they are nothing but outright wank and should have their displacements at least tripled, with the Acquisition having its increased by 5 or 6 times what it currently is.

My ships DON'T make the "insane" list... Woohooh!

Well, some of your ships are a bit light, and some are a bit heavy, but they are no where near as bad as the ones I mentioned.

[Southern Patriots]

Class Name: Graf Adendorff
Displacement (standard): 20,000
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 12x12-inch
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 11 inches
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): Incremental
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Turbine
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Coal
Speed (in knots): 20
Endurance (in nmi): 4,200 nmi
Year in service: 1908
Year last unit retired or sunk: 1918
Number of units: 4 (Adendorff, Gebhard, Pietermaritzburg (PMB), Pretorius)



Class Name: Red Duke
Displacement (standard): 26,000
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 10x13.5-inch
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 14.5 inch
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): All-or-Nothing
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Turbo-electric
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Oil
Speed (in knots): 22
Endurance (in nmi): 9,000 nm
Year in service: 1911
Year last unit retired or sunk: 1942
Number of units: 6 (Red Duke, Prince of Mittelstadt, Audacious, Duke of Montrose, Idnulu, Thunderchild)

Both of these classes of battleship had the distinction of serving during the Second Nodic War (1914-1917), and in particular the Battle of Three Navies. During the second year of the war the Southron Home Fleet put out to see to challenge the Enemy's High Seas Armada, which had been harassing shipping and all but imposing a blockade.
The Fleet mustered every vessel available and caught the Armada as it was assembling. But a second force, allied to the Enemy, arrived on a flanking approach. The Fleet was unable to disengage safely and so plunged into the fight. Although outmatched in both numbers and weight, the Fleet pulled off through sheer tenacity a great victory than ensured the Enemy would never again approach the coast with surface ships.
The Graf Adendorff-class vessels, through fate perhaps more than design, fared poorly in the engagement, losing 3 of the 4 vessels. The Gebhard would survive the war, but be sunk by a stray mine in 1919.
The Red Duke-class would instead gain great renown during the battle, as they were part of the 4th and 6th Battle Squadrons that succeeded in sinking two Enemy flagships, the Saint Paschal and Saint Osyth.
OOC: Images courtesy of Shipbucket

OOC: I'd like to let you play ship designer for a third class:

Time frame (max. 1906-1945):1912-1915 construction period
Pre or post treaty, or both? Which treaty?
How significant a naval power was your nation in the time frame in question? 3rd geographically, 1st culturally and with assistance
Which RL nation's would your ships most resemble aesthetically? German or British (mixed culture)
What do you think of Fisher style battlecruisers? Perhaps hastily designed
What do you think of German style battlecruisers? Preferable
List some strengths of your navy (e.g. high quality armor steel) - optional: Training and marksmanship
List some weaknesses of your navy (e.g. unreliable engines) - optional: Newer generations have less of a naval tradition
List some "trade-offs" your navy made (e.g. lower speed for better maneuverability) - optional:
Brief summary of your nation's military/economic history over the time frame in question: The Dominion is coming into it's own during this time. Although in Africa geographically, with little coastline, the Mother Country felt it important that each Dominion possess a Fleet strong enough to carry out assaults on Enemy colonies, and to join the Grand Fleet if necessary. To this end professionals were brought in to make sure the Fleet was up to par, and not merely a coastal defence force which it had been the century prior.
With the rising threat of war a newer battleship was required to lead the Southron fleet. Designers called for a vessel at least 8,000 tons greater than the Red Duke class, with larger guns (around 15 inches) and greater armor.

[Mount Shavano]

Now looking at them quickly, the only ships that come close to comparing the the NS ships are the Yamato and the H44, which was just a scetch and some basic stats pretty much. Now, the H44 is less well armed than every one of them, the Kaiserin having 4 more guns, the Acquisition having almost tripple as many, and the Amon Ra having the same number, but with a 2 in greater bore diamete. When it comes to armour they all would have likely passed such a ship, despite the fact that every one of them had a displacement at most only 1/2 the H44s. Really they are nothing but outright wank and should have their displacements at least tripled, with the Acquisition having its increased by 5 or 6 times what it currently is.

This is completely correct.

Number of units: 6 (Red Duke, Prince of Mittelstadt, Audacious, Duke of Montrose, Idnulu, Thunderchild)

I ought to go through this this thread and see if there are any names besides Thunderchild and Dauntless that have been used in more than one navy. The other Thunderchild is the sister of Nautilus.

OOC: I'd like to let you play ship designer for a third class:

Time frame (max. 1906-1945):1912-1915 construction period
Pre or post treaty, or both? Which treaty?
How significant a naval power was your nation in the time frame in question? 3rd geographically, 1st culturally and with assistance
Which RL nation's would your ships most resemble aesthetically? German or British (mixed culture)
What do you think of Fisher style battlecruisers? Perhaps hastily designed
What do you think of German style battlecruisers? Preferable
List some strengths of your navy (e.g. high quality armor steel) - optional: Training and marksmanship
List some weaknesses of your navy (e.g. unreliable engines) - optional: Newer generations have less of a naval tradition
List some "trade-offs" your navy made (e.g. lower speed for better maneuverability) - optional:
Brief summary of your nation's military/economic history over the time frame in question: The Dominion is coming into it's own during this time. Although in Africa geographically, with little coastline, the Mother Country felt it important that each Dominion possess a Fleet strong enough to carry out assaults on Enemy colonies, and to join the Grand Fleet if necessary. To this end professionals were brought in to make sure the Fleet was up to par, and not merely a coastal defence force which it had been the century prior.
With the rising threat of war a newer battleship was required to lead the Southron fleet. Designers called for a vessel at least 8,000 tons greater than the Red Duke class, with larger guns (around 15 inches) and greater armor.

(fluff and design can be modified, as needed)

The "Battleship 1912" design produced by the board was heavily influenced by a class of the Mother Country's battleships then laying down. However, some of the constraints of that class were unique to that nation's situation and not needed in Southron, and the limitations placed by the government on displacement were higher than that of the previous class.

The board concluded that given the worldwide political/military situation that the ships be able to fight on at least even terms with any potential opponent, rather than only the specific anticipated Enemy.

The 25-knot speed of the base design was reduced to matching the 22 knots of the Red Dukes, the minimum to allow the battleline to operate as a cohesive unit; this combined with the removal of the constraint place by the home country's dockyards allowed the beam to be extended to 110'6". The 8x15"/42 main armament was retained; an amidships turret would have disrupted boiler placement and added an additional potentially explosive area to the ships, and the building yard had no experience with triples.

However, the board found the original design somewhat deficient with regards to armor protection; whereas the base design has been intended to stand up to her main rivals 12" rifles, the Dominion's next opponent was not as well known. Moreover, both the Inutolander Tuyas and Front Range Argo would be commissioned within weeks of "Battleship 1912"'s keel being laid carrying 15" and 14" artillery, respectively, and at least four other nations were expected to have 14" or 15" weapons on their new battleships by the time "Battleship 1912" saw service. Accordingly, protection was massively increased. The primary armor belt was 16", concentrated over the vitals as in the Red Dukes - no reason was seen to revert. Protection on the turrets was equivalent; the deck, citadel, and secondary turret armor was not improved.

Finally, much was invested in making the warships proof against torpedo attack. Weight of protection more than double that of the base design; the board's mathematicians insisted that it would take "a dozen" torpedo hits to send "Battleship 1912" to the bottom, although this claim is considered highly doubtful by most modern historians and by most foreign naval analysts of the time.

The end result, on commissioning, could have been called "the world's best battleship in a straight up fight" by any Southron patriot without drawing any odd attention. Of course, to get there they was also the biggest and most expensive battleships to date*. Of course, with the rate of development of battleship designs, that designation would last only a few years.

*Check the chart; only the Harberian First Lord is even within 10%. She's faster but not as protected.

Displacement : 34,054 tons
Length : 645'9"
Beam : 110'6"
Draft : 34'
Primary Guns : 8x15"/42 (four twins, 2 each fore & aft)
Secondary Guns : 16x6"/45 (individual casemates, 8 each port & starboard) & misc. light weapons
Armor
Belt: 16"
Deck: 3"
Turrets: 16"
Barbettes: 10"
Citadel: 11"
Propulsion
Oil Fired
Steam Turbines
4 shafts
24 boilers (42,600 hp)
22 knots
Endurance: 10,000 nmi at 10 knots

OOC: Feel free to suggest any revisions you want; the best ship to use as a base for the art for this class is the Queen Elizabeth. "Battleship 1912" would likely still be serviceable as a second-class battleship (convoy escort & shore bombardment) into the WWII era; although their low speed wouldn't age well, the broad beam leaves plenty of deck space for refits to add AA weapons. They'd be stable ships and good gun platforms, although the back-tilted bow would likely make them wet forward in rough seas.

[Southern Patriots]

I ought to go through this this thread and see if there are any names besides Thunderchild and Dauntless that have been used in more than one navy. The other Thunderchild is the sister of Nautilus.

A testament to the brilliant writings of Wells, to be sure.

(fluff and design can be modified, as needed)

The "Battleship 1912" design produced by the board was heavily influenced by a class of the Mother Country's battleships then laying down. However, some of the constraints of that class were unique to that nation's situation and not needed in Southron, and the limitations placed by the government on displacement were higher than that of the previous class.

The board concluded that given the worldwide political/military situation that the ships be able to fight on at least even terms with any potential opponent, rather than only the specific anticipated Enemy.

The 25-knot speed of the base design was reduced to matching the 22 knots of the Red Dukes, the minimum to allow the battleline to operate as a cohesive unit; this combined with the removal of the constraint place by the home country's dockyards allowed the beam to be extended to 110'6". The 8x15"/42 main armament was retained; an amidships turret would have disrupted boiler placement and added an additional potentially explosive area to the ships, and the building yard had no experience with triples.

However, the board found the original design somewhat deficient with regards to armor protection; whereas the base design has been intended to stand up to her main rivals 12" rifles, the Dominion's next opponent was not as well known. Moreover, both the Inutolander Tuyas and Front Range Argo would be commissioned within weeks of "Battleship 1912"'s keel being laid carrying 15" and 14" artillery, respectively, and at least four other nations were expected to have 14" or 15" weapons on their new battleships by the time "Battleship 1912" saw service. Accordingly, protection was massively increased. The primary armor belt was 16", concentrated over the vitals as in the Red Dukes - no reason was seen to revert. Protection on the turrets was equivalent; the deck, citadel, and secondary turret armor was not improved.

Finally, much was invested in making the warships proof against torpedo attack. Weight of protection more than double that of the base design; the board's mathematicians insisted that it would take "a dozen" torpedo hits to send "Battleship 1912" to the bottom, although this claim is considered highly doubtful by most modern historians and by most foreign naval analysts of the time.

The end result, on commissioning, could have been called "the world's best battleship in a straight up fight" by any Southron patriot without drawing any odd attention. Of course, to get there they was also the biggest and most expensive battleships to date*. Of course, with the rate of development of battleship designs, that designation would last only a few years.

*Check the chart; only the Harberian First Lord is even within 10%. She's faster but not as protected.

Displacement : 34,054 tons
Length : 645'9"
Beam : 110'6"
Draft : 34'
Primary Guns : 8x15"/42 (four twins, 2 each fore & aft)
Secondary Guns : 16x6"/45 (individual casemates, 8 each port & starboard) & misc. light weapons
Armor
Belt: 16"
Deck: 3"
Turrets: 16"
Barbettes: 10"
Citadel: 11"
Propulsion
Oil Fired
Steam Turbines
4 shafts
24 boilers (42,600 hp)
22 knots
Endurance: 10,000 nmi at 10 knots

OOC: Feel free to suggest any revisions you want; the best ship to use as a base for the art for this class is the Queen Elizabeth. "Battleship 1912" would likely still be serviceable as a second-class battleship (convoy escort & shore bombardment) into the WWII era; although their low speed wouldn't age well, the broad beam leaves plenty of deck space for refits to add AA weapons. They'd be stable ships and good gun platforms, although the back-tilted bow would likely make them wet forward in rough seas.

OOC: I like this very much, actually. You accurately capture the requirements that my nation, as an African Dominion, would look for in a ship while at the same time attempting to keep its fleet a strong auxiliary to the Mother Country's main fleet. You don't mind if I keep this design? The only change I'd make is I think it should be turbo-electric like the Red Duke class. Of course I'm no expert in battleship engines.
I'll name this class: Queen Ashland, a famous monarch in my nation's history.

[Mount Shavano]

OOC: I like this very much, actually. You accurately capture the requirements that my nation, as an African Dominion, would look for in a ship while at the same time attempting to keep its fleet a strong auxiliary to the Mother Country's main fleet. You don't mind if I keep this design? The only change I'd make is I think it should be turbo-electric like the Red Duke class. Of course I'm no expert in battleship engines.
I'll name this class: Queen Ashland, a famous monarch in my nation's history.

You may of course use the design - that's what it is there for, after all. The design change to turbo-electric won't present any difficulty - the power output is somewhat lower, but with only 22 knots required it wouldn't be a problem.

I've added Queen Ashland to the table, using 1915 for YIS, and leaving retirement year and number of units blank.

[Gothicta]

Class Name: Revolution-class Battleship
Displacement (standard): 42,800 Tonnes
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 9x 14 Inch Guns (3 Per turret.)
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 11.4 Inches
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): Incremental
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Turbine
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Oil
Speed (in knots): 20
Endurance (in nmi): 11,060
Year in service: 1937 -1961
Year last unit retired or sunk: 1961 (Retired.)
Number of units: 5

[Southern Patriots]

OOC: I like this very much, actually. You accurately capture the requirements that my nation, as an African Dominion, would look for in a ship while at the same time attempting to keep its fleet a strong auxiliary to the Mother Country's main fleet. You don't mind if I keep this design? The only change I'd make is I think it should be turbo-electric like the Red Duke class. Of course I'm no expert in battleship engines.
I'll name this class: Queen Ashland, a famous monarch in my nation's history.

You may of course use the design - that's what it is there for, after all. The design change to turbo-electric won't present any difficulty - the power output is somewhat lower, but with only 22 knots required it wouldn't be a problem.

I've added Queen Ashland to the table, using 1915 for YIS, and leaving retirement year and number of units blank.

OOC: Lower? Hmm... Do you have an article that describes the difference in engines? Advantages and disadvantages?
I've decided on 8 of this class, Queen Ashland, Vindicator, Repulse, Vanguard, Undaunted, Impervious, Friedle, and Warspite.

[Mount Shavano]

OOC: Lower? Hmm... Do you have an article that describes the difference in engines? Advantages and disadvantages?
I've decided on 8 of this class, Queen Ashland, Vindicator, Repulse, Vanguard, Undaunted, Impervious, Friedle, and Warspite.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-038.htm

Summary:
Strictly speaking, what I have been calling a "turbine" or "convential turbine" system is a system where the turbines and then directly (mechanically) spin the shafts. Although still using turbines, a TED system uses them to run electric generators which then turn the propellers.

TED plus:
*Fuel efficiency (and hence endurance).
*Allows greater internal subdivision & hence resistance to flooding.
*Takes up less beam, allowing deeper torpedo defenses.
*Propellers can be run in reverse at full power immediately, and can provide full power for steaming in reverse direction (power =/= speed due to hull forms). Note reversing port screws while leaving starboard forward or vice versa gives TED ships an advantage in emergency maneuvers.
*Easier to repair battle damage (and maintain?).
*More power for non-propulsion systems.

TED minus:
*Heavier and more expensive (for the generated horse-power).
*System is more centralized; there are a couple of different places where it has a single POF (i.e. can be knocked out in a single hit).

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Class Name: Emperor Class Battleship
Displacement (standard): 81,000
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 12x18.1in 50 caliber
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): ~15.7 in
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): Incremental
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Turbines, as of 1996 retrofit, nuclear boiler
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Oil, as of 1996, nuclear
Speed (in knots): 35 knots
Endurance (in nmi): 20,000, as of 1996, effectively unlimited
Year in service: 1944-present
Year last unit retired or sunk: N/A
Number of units: 7 Laid down, 4 completed, 1 converted to a carrier, 2 scrapped

If you want you can add them as different ships
Also, I suggest you add sections for secondary weapons (eg. dual purpose guns, 4-8in guns), numbers laid down, numbers scrapped (often nations laid down far more ships than they actually completed), additional weapons (eg. AShMs, SAMs, AA guns), and armour in other places like the bulkheads and decks.

[Mount Shavano]

If you want you can add them as different ships
Also, I suggest you add sections for secondary weapons (eg. dual purpose guns, 4-8in guns), numbers laid down, numbers scrapped (often nations laid down far more ships than they actually completed), additional weapons (eg. AShMs, SAMs, AA guns), and armour in other places like the bulkheads and decks.

There's a lot more things that I could add; I've been attempting to keep the number of columns down and the table readable. I will definitely consider adding some of the above items, but going back and collecting the information from posters earlier in the thread might be difficult - I'm interested in everyone's opinions on what should be added.

Of course, everyone is encouraged to include information more detailed than that in the table in their posts, and I will mark the entries as such.

[Mount Shavano]

Bumping with link to detailed write up on Front Range ships and a list of my ship names:

Front Range Battleship Names
Dauntless class
Dauntless*
Avenger
Thunderbolt
Avalanche
Seawolf class
Seawolf
Red River
Atropos class
Atropos
Revenge
Kinnison
Sutherland (cancelled)
Argo class
Argo*
Lydia
Nautilus class
Nautilus
Thunder Child
Apache type
Apache*
Comanche (cancelled)
Timnath Serah type
Invincible
Timnath Serah*
Tomahawk type
Tomahawk
Brave (cancelled)
Saint George type
Saint George
Conqueror class
Conqueror*
La Mancha
Constellation type
Constellation
Silver Dawn type
Herald of the Silver Dawn*

*fitted with double-level conning tower for use as fleet or division flagship.

[Lowell Leber]

Class Name: Enterprise (Battlecruiser)
Displacement (standard): 51,200 long tons
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 8x16" in four twin turrets.
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 8" belt; 5-9" Barbettes; 10" Turrets and conning tower.
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): Incremental
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Turbo-Electric
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Oil
Speed (in knots): 33 knots
Endurance (in nmi): 12,000 nmi at 10 knots
Year in service: 1920
Year last unit retired or sunk: 1950
Number of units: 28 total built.
Misc. Information: These were large battlecruisers designed to fill the role of "Capital Ship" in my nation's navy. Speed and endurance were given high priority due to the the expansive distances between the mother country and its widespread colonies.

[Lowell Leber]

Class Name: Yuengling
Displacement (standard): 70,000 tonnes
Primary Armament (in inches, please): 12x16"/50 cal Mark VIII guns in four triple turrets.
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please): 16"
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental): All or Nothing.
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Gas Turbine
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A) Gas Fired
Speed (in knots): 35 knots max.
Endurance (in nmi): 16,000 nmi. at 15 knots
Year in service: 1990
Year last unit retired or sunk: N/A
Number of units: 8

[Saphirasia]

Class Name:Global Responder-Class BBN
Displacement (standard):~125,000 Tons
Primary Armament (in inches, please):8x450mm(18 inch) 55 caliber rifled cannons
Maximum Armor Belt Thickness (in inches, please):24 inches
Armor Layout (All-or-Nothing or Incremental):All-or-nothing
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc):Geared Steam Turbine->Turboalternators->Electric motors on the shafts.
Oil fired, coal fired, or mixed: (ignore if N/A)CONAG (Combined Nuclear and Gas turbine)
Speed (in knots):35 knots
Endurance (in nmi):Theoretically unlimited
Year in service:2000-Current
Year last unit retired or sunk:Still in service
Number of units:2
Additional Notes:This ship was intended to operate with the newly-built Kuznetsov II-Class CVGNs, but only 2 were built due to cost overruns on the main armament. These ships were supplemented by the Kirov II-Class CBGNs as a fleet defense ship.

[Aquilinia]

Well, I'm not really good with designing stuff, so I'm going with the request form here for the stats, and the proper submission form for the other info.

Time frame (max. 1906-1945): first ship launched 1940
Pre or post treaty, or both? (what treaty?)
How significant a naval power was your nation in the time frame in question? compare to Germany
Which RL nation's would your ships most resemble aesthetically? Germany
What do you think of Fisher style battlecruisers?
What do you think of German style battlecruisers? (Reply to both questions) A compromise of both concepts should be best
List some strengths of your navy (e.g. high quality armor steel) - optional: A lot of manpower and cash, very high tech
List some weaknesses of your navy (e.g. unreliable engines) - optional: highly dependent on resource imports (at the time, anyway)
List some "trade-offs" your navy made (e.g. lower speed for better maneuverability) - optional: firepower and armour sacrificed for speed and maneuverability
Brief summary of your nation's military/economic history over the time frame in question: Had been neutral in WW1, but buildup for WW2 was perceived as a threat to both the motherland and the expanding colonies; the Empire was already highly industrialized, although most military technology was licence-built copies of foreign (mainly German, British and Japanese pre-war, allied during WW2) equipment. The ship type in question was the first domestically developed military vessel in three decades. In early WW2, Aquilinia was neutral but pro-allied; shortly after Pearl Harbour, Japanese-affiliated ships started raiding Aquilinian convoys so Aquilinia joined the war in the pacific theatre, ironically using a lot of equipment developed from licence-built Japanese technology (like, for example, the A6M "Zero") alongside allied tech.


Other info:
Class Name: Theodor-class
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Diesel
Year in service: first ship launched 1940
Year last unit retired or sunk: IMS Theodor still on active service list; however, permanently docked and turned into museum ship in 1982
Number of units: 4

[Mount Shavano]

Well, I'm not really good with designing stuff, so I'm going with the request form here for the stats, and the proper submission form for the other info.

Time frame (max. 1906-1945): first ship launched 1940
Pre or post treaty, or both? (what treaty?)
How significant a naval power was your nation in the time frame in question? compare to Germany
Which RL nation's would your ships most resemble aesthetically? Germany
What do you think of Fisher style battlecruisers?
What do you think of German style battlecruisers? (Reply to both questions) A compromise of both concepts should be best
List some strengths of your navy (e.g. high quality armor steel) - optional: A lot of manpower and cash, very high tech
List some weaknesses of your navy (e.g. unreliable engines) - optional: highly dependent on resource imports (at the time, anyway)
List some "trade-offs" your navy made (e.g. lower speed for better maneuverability) - optional: firepower and armour sacrificed for speed and maneuverability
Brief summary of your nation's military/economic history over the time frame in question: Had been neutral in WW1, but buildup for WW2 was perceived as a threat to both the motherland and the expanding colonies; the Empire was already highly industrialized, although most military technology was licence-built copies of foreign (mainly German, British and Japanese pre-war, allied during WW2) equipment. The ship type in question was the first domestically developed military vessel in three decades. In early WW2, Aquilinia was neutral but pro-allied; shortly after Pearl Harbour, Japanese-affiliated ships started raiding Aquilinian convoys so Aquilinia joined the war in the pacific theatre, ironically using a lot of equipment developed from licence-built Japanese technology (like, for example, the A6M "Zero") alongside allied tech.


Other info:
Class Name: Theodor-class
Powerplant Type (Turbines, Reciprocating, Expansion, Turbo-electric, Diesel, etc): Diesel
Year in service: first ship launched 1940
Year last unit retired or sunk: IMS Theodor still on active service list; however, permanently docked and turned into museum ship in 1982
Number of units: 4

(As always, this is a draft you can revise as needed.)

Laid down in the mid-to-late 1930s, the Theodors were intended to provide the Aquilinian Navy with a capital ship suitable for the needs of a potential future war against Japan. An official displacement of 35,000 tons was ordered, to comply with the Washington and London treaties, but as the ships neared completion rumors abounded of giant battleships under construction in Japan and Germany, so this was increased about 10%, mostly additional armor. It is doubtful the inexperienced Aquilinian shipbuilding industry could have built anything larger at that time in any case.

The design goal was to be able to catch and destroy any Japanese cruisers up to and including the Kongos, while being able to outrun the existing Japanese battleships and the (thought to be) 45,000 ton, 16" Yamato class ships under construction. 15" was decided as the main armament. It offered several advantages: First, it was bigger than the 14" artillery carried by her intended opponents. Second, it likewise carried a range advantage over all existing Japanese battleships except Nagato and Mutsu (although this would have been very difficult to exploit, given the state of 1940 fire control world-wide). Third, it was not large enough to alarm the United States or Britain, both of whom possessed multiple 16" ships.

Ultimately, six 15" guns were distributed in the unusual arrangement of a single triple turret each fore and aft. The risk of losing half the armament to a single "golden bb" was considered secondary to the knot of speed that the weight saved added to the ship. Armor was designed to be adequate against the 12.2" weapons of the B-64/65 erroneously believed to be under construction in Japanese yards, although would likely have performed far better than that of Hood or Kongo against proper battleships, being a third heavier.

Secondary armament (12x6.1") was heavy, in line with the ships intended mission of "cruiser-killers", as was anti-air weaponry (24x3.9", plus many small automatic weapons); the heavy 6.1" guns were believed necessary to hunt cruisers and too big to be employed as dual purpose weapons, which experience would prove to be a mistake limiting the anti-aircraft battery to merely good instead of truly awesome. All of these guns were of Japanese model.

The ship truly excelled in three areas; First, she was the fastest capital ship of her era at 34.2 knots (having hit 36 on trials), on par with the fastest Japanese cruisers and faster than most. Second, realizing the emphasis the I.J.N. placed on torpedo armament for their cruisers - her intended victims - she was fitted with an excellent torpedo defense system; slightly superior to that of USS South Dakota. Finally, her endurance was an astounding 21,000 nmi - ideal for the vast reaches of the Pacific.

Besides the mixed secondary battery, the ship had several other drawbacks - after all, no ship is perfect.
*The long, thin hull needed for high speed reduced stability in rough seas, and made her an unremarkable gun platform. This is less important in the calm South Pacific than some other parts of the world.
*Additionally, the extreme length of the ship left her vulnerable to flooding at the ends - while the belt area was well protected, a single torpedo hit at the bow could have caused serious flooding.
*The machinery spaces were cramped by the need to fit powerful engines on a narrow beam, although not dangerously so.
*The sophisticated, high tech fire control equipment worked wonderfully - when it was working. The system was prone to breakdown from having so many moving parts, and its complex design sometimes made repair difficult. It's track record for reliability was not, however, so bad as Scharnhorst and Gneisenau's fire control.
*The deck armor was not really adequate against plunging battleship gunfire or the dive bombers of the Japanese Carrier Striking Force - there simply wasn't weight to do it. However, it was probably adequate against 8" gunfire.
*The secondary battery turrets were effectively unarmored.
*Cruising speed relatively low, to increase fuel economy.

Other positives:
*By contrast with the above, the engines were extremely reliable by any standard.
*The modern 15" gun was superior to old-model 16" artillery (Colorado, Nelson, Nagato) in every aspect except range.
*It also had an extremely high theoretical maximum rate of fire, even relative to other modern guns, although the need to wait for shell to fall to aim the next salvo meant this was only useful at short range.
*Maneuverability, considering the size and speed of the ship, was quite good.
*Have the speed and AA to make good-to-great carrier escorts, especially if refitted with D.P. weapons in place of the 6.1" guns later in the war.

A modification of this image from http://www.german-navy.de which should give an approximate idea of what this ship would look like:


If you want to see extreme amounts of data, I used SpringSharp to polish the design and work out details once I had the basic idea down.

What do you think?

[Aquilinia]

Absolutely perfect. Thanks a lot

[USS Illinois]

All of them are pretty insane. Just to compare some stats.
Name..............Displacement.................Armament...............Armour................Speed
Amon Ra...........51,808.......................8x22 in................19.8 in...............14 knots
Acquisition.......22,206.......................22x20 in...............15 in...................25 knots
Kaiserin..........64,000.......................12x20 in................16.5 in................20 knots
Yamato............65,000.......................9x18 in.................16 in.................27 knots
Bismark...........42,000.......................8x15 in.................13 in..................30 knots
H44...............131,000......................8x20 in.................12 in (H39)...........30 knots
Iowa..............45,000.......................9x16 in.................12 in...................33 knots

Now looking at them quickly, the only ships that come close to comparing the the NS ships are the Yamato and the H44, which was just a scetch and some basic stats pretty much. Now, the H44 is less well armed than every one of them, the Kaiserin having 4 more guns, the Acquisition having almost tripple as many, and the Amon Ra having the same number, but with a 2 in greater bore diamete. When it comes to armour they all would have likely passed such a ship, despite the fact that every one of them had a displacement at most only 1/2 the H44s. Really they are nothing but outright wank and should have their displacements at least tripled, with the Acquisition having its increased by 5 or 6 times what it currently is.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=66766&start=30
You left one really insane one out. If you don't see it, then scroll down. You'll see it.

[USS Illinois]

This was orginally meant to see how large of a ship our contry could have designed through Springsharp.

size: 3000x500x100
displacement normal: 4,268,572 tons
main armanment 72x22 in.
secondary armanment 100x16 in.
third armanment 200x5 in.
Anti Air battery-500x40mm
1000x20 mm
Torpedo launchers:100 25 in. on deck, 100 25 in. below deck
armor-bulkhead max thickness 50 in.
Max thickness belt 20 in.
Guns:Primary 50 in.
Secondary 20 in.
Third 10 in.
AA 2 in.
Engines Oil fired, steam turbines, hydraulic drive
100 shafts, max speed 40 knots, crusing speed 25 knots.
maximum 22 in. shells that can be absorbed before sinking 1531.1 maximum torpedo hits 14,024.6

Unfortunately, it was determined that there wouldn't be enough steel for this

[Grays Harbor]

(Interesting idea from Mount Shavano, listing the ships within each of his classes)

Royal Navy Battleships and Battlecruisers, with commissioning date
World List
Battleships
Sovereign Class
Sovereign -1906
King Stephen III - 1906

Haroldus Class
Haroldus - 1908
Aethylwulf - 1908
Artemis - 1908
Admiral Montan - 1909
Duke Edward - 1909
Colossus - 1909

Sinister Class
Sinister - 1908
Terrible - 1908
Apocalypse - 1908
Dreadful - 1909

Dauntless Class
Dauntless - 1911
Audacious - 1911
Intrepid - 1911
Brave - 1912
Temerarious - 1912
Imperious - 1912

First Lord Class
Lord Crighton -1915
Lord D'Argo -1915
Lord Tristan - 1915
Lord Greene - 1915
Lord Phillips - 1916
Lord Vincent - 1916
Lord Crais - 1917
Lord Lincoln - 1917

Sanxay Straits Class
Sanxay Straits - 1916
Prussian Seas - 1916
Konigsberg Bight - 1916

Iron Duke Class
Iron Duke - 1926
Harberia - 1926
Grenadier - 1926
Valiant - 1927
Monarch - 1927
Warrior - 1927
Royal Crown - 1928
Regal - 1928

Dominion Class
Aldeshar - 1940
Leegesia - 1940
New Kandor - 1941
Wiesta Amereka - 1941
Prudentia - 1942
Gratia - 1942
Veneratio - 1943
Audentia - 1943

Battlecruisers
Parliament Class
Parliament - 1907
Palace - 1907
Lord Everts - 1907
St Anne - 1908
Vanguard - 1908

Triumph Class
Triumph - 1911
Zealot - 1911
Bonaventure - 1911
Arwrol - 1912
Goruchaf - 1912
Victory - 1912
Great West - 1915

Royal Court Class
Royal Court - 1916 (converted 1924 to aircraft carrier)
Royal Prince - (converted while building to aircraft carrier)
Royal Aberdeen - 1916 (converted 1924 to aircraft carrier)
Royal Westport - 1918
Royal Loannis - (cancelled when 60% complete, scrapped on stocks)

Centurion Class
Centurion - 1920
Maidstone - 1920
Princess - 1921
Marquessa - 1921

Midguard Class
Midguard - (converted while building to aircraft carrier)
Valhala - (converted while building to aircraft carrier)
Sterling - (cancelled while building, 1923)
Yarburrow - (cancelled while building, 1923)

Captains Class
Anton Freeling - 1928
George Nelson - 1928
Bradley Uxbridge - 1929
Howard Carstairs - 1929
Grant Powers - 1930

Lord Crosby Class
Lord Crosby - 1932
Admiral Benning - 1932
Prime Minister - 1933
Queen Charlotte - 1933
Queen Blanche - 1934

Simpson Class
Simpson - 1986
Whidby - 1987
Arafel - 1987
Saldaea - 1988
Malkier - 1988
Satsop - 1989
Eldiwynn - 1990
Illian - 1990

[Centropyge]

Ah! My favorite aspect of NS roleplay has been designing ships, though I have yet to create any truly PT ones and have yet to work out the details of my PMT armor scheme. I do have a vintage class of battlecruisers, modernized, that are in semi-retirement for use as diplomatic "chariots." Perhaps I'll share those here first. Would you prefer this thread limited to PT capital surface warships? I ask because in Centropygan Royal Navy doctrine, capital surface warships are still an important part of our blue water navy.