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Postby New Unsociety » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:08 pm

Most likely community service(as in a somehow greater share of contribution to the accuser's collective's required labor).

Ofc the exact sentence relies on the Peoples' Court judging the case.
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Postby Xanicea » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:08 pm

Sol Bella wrote:
Sterlingport wrote:A person who has made a false accusation could be charged with wasting police time, filing a false report, defamation and/or perjury.

Penalties range from fines to ten years' imprisonment.



Daaaaaannngggg, that there's harsh.

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Postby New Unsociety » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:09 pm

Galenaima wrote:If the crime is punishable by five years or less, and/or a fine no more than 100,000 Pecunae Aurae, then it is punihsable by restitution of the fine and twenty years. If the fine is more than 100,000 or the crime punishable by more than five years, it's usually repay the fine and then death.


If he/she's going to die anyway,why pay the fine?
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Postby Xanicea » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:10 pm

New Unsociety wrote:
Galenaima wrote:If the crime is punishable by five years or less, and/or a fine no more than 100,000 Pecunae Aurae, then it is punihsable by restitution of the fine and twenty years. If the fine is more than 100,000 or the crime punishable by more than five years, it's usually repay the fine and then death.


If he/she's going to die anyway,why pay the fine?


Maybe they deny you death until you pay the fine, and instead torture you for hours on end.

Death would be a relief, then.
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Postby Katonazag » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:10 pm

Making a false report to police is usually a misdemeanor, but in extreme cases where the ensuing investigation involves a large police expenditure, it can become a felony. Civil suits can also result if damages can be proven, as well as in cases where it involves slander and/or libel.

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Postby New Unsociety » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:12 pm

Xanicea wrote:
New Unsociety wrote:
If he/she's going to die anyway,why pay the fine?


Maybe they deny you death until you pay the fine, and instead torture you for hours on end.

Death would be a relief, then.


Commit suicide?

And if you can't pay?Does the state have to pay for wages of your torturers and your food(no matter how low-quality)?

Nvm the fact that to continue enduring torture w/o dying(esp if not imprisoned in ok standards-that costs) continuous medical attention(thus costs) is required.
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Postby Wainscoting » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:24 pm

In the Republic, making false testimony is a severe offense. The offenders in such cases are sentenced to be shat upon by a thousand pigeons.

Basically, we shove you in to a room with bare floors and walls, and a high-open ceiling. There's nothing to grab a hold of, and so you can't climb out. Then, a series of panels in the walls slide up, releasing hordes of freshly fed pigeons.

You get the idea, I'm sure.

Upon the passage of a pre-determined period of time set by the courts, the door is unlocked, and you are hosed down and permitted to exit the room.

If you are still reading by this stage, then we would like to inform you that this has been a joke. Fines and formal apologies, as well as the odd prison sentence, are the methods used here.
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Postby Zombodice » Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:28 pm

Depending on the accusation and the situation it ranges from a fine to death.
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Postby Saint Gilbert » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:11 pm

In most cases, false accusations will be punished with a lengthy prison sentence, hefty fines, compensation to the victim and a handwritten retraction and apology to be published in the paper of record. Since sexual allegations - true or untrue - have a tendency to stick more, the penalties for these will usually be much, much harsher than for other false accusations. In 1998 a woman was actually forced into bankruptcy after a series of child rape allegations she brought against a schoolteacher turned out to be demonstrably false. The teacher in question was - although innocent - ruined, and subsequently hanged himself.

There is an old 12th century law still in effect which dictates that a person found guilty of "maliciously slandering" another in a court of law may be forced to walk the thirty miles from Hopcaster to Adlesford barefoot, in a hair shirt, being whipped every five paces by "two strong youths". He is to be accompanied by a Canon of Hopcaster Cathedral, who will - in each town they pass - announce that:

"[Cuplrit's name] hath by the influence of the devil himself, sought to bring ruin upon the good reputation of [Victim's name] through wicked and malicious slander. Let his own reputation, therefore, be forever tarnished by his own black words. Nevermore shall this man's utterances carry weight. May God have mercy upon this slanderer's soul."

Upon arriving in Adlesford the suspect is then to be branded on both the forehead and the buttocks with a "S" for slanderer, stripped naked and turned loose. Not that anyone has been subjected to this since the 1690s, but in the aforementioned case of the schoolteacher a significant number of people called for it to be imposed on the woman who brought the allegations. The emphasis here is very much on restoring the name of those falsely accused; factors such as wasting police time, intriguingly, come a long way second.
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Postby Brittania and the Indies » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:16 pm

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:23 pm

Criminal accusations:

First, the only things considered "criminal" here are punished with death. If it's not worth the death penalty, it's not illegal. Therefore, if you make a false criminal accusation, you are, in short, trying to get someone executed (attempted murder). This makes false-accusing a very serious offense.

That said...

Making a criminal accusation requires committing the other offense of being an informant, whether the charges are true or not. You DON'T want to be ANY kind of informant in a nation where the entire place is tantamount to a robotic mafia, unless you have some bizarre desire to die painfully.

If, for some reason, you DO decide to make a false accusation to Domestic Intelligence - the "secret" police - despite the above warnings, you are guilty of:

High Treason Against the Decepticon Way. Proper Decepticons do not inform on each other. Ever.

Insulting the Government (x2) - 1) you thought you could convince Domestic Intelligence of your lies. That means you assume that they're idiots, which is highly insulting. 2) You were also trying to use the government as your weapon. They don't appreciate being thought of as tools.

Fomenting Rebellion - The main reason people put up with the ubiquitous, powerful, and sometimes terrifying Domestic Intelligence Division is because they have confidence that the agency will be able to justify every execution with airtight proof. If they believed your false accusation and killed an innocent, their credibility would be severely harmed all across the Nation. If the damage was severe enough, people would rebel since they would start to see the government as their enemy. Therefore, trying to get DomIntel to wrongly harm someone is Fomenting Rebellion.

Each one of the above is punishable by death, but to combine them is especially egregious. When your lies are discovered, you will be melted down slowly on live holovision with your pain sensors soldered into the active state.

Civil false accusations:

Running a smear campaign against someone, whether by whispered rumors in the neighborhood or a full-on newschip campaign, will inevitably result in the offended person doing his best to kill you. If it's a somewhat famous person with a lot of friends, or someone rich enough to hire some mercenaries, count on him showing up with a small army to make sure that he wins. If it's some random guy with no militia, he'll blast you himself or resort to some trickier method like putting sugar in your Energon, sand in your oil, or putting data-deleting viruses in your entertainment chips.

You'll find that simply dueling your enemies is far less painful than enduring the very dedicated revenge attempts that will come your way if you commit slander or libel.
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Postby Wikipedia and Universe » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:42 pm

The penalty for filing a false police report in Wikipedia and Universe varies by state, ranging from fines to imprisonment. Some states may have separate penalties depending on whether the false report constitutes a misdemeanor or a felony.
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Postby Mesogiria » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:44 pm

It depends on the jurisdiction and what crime the perpetrator is accusing someone of, with more severe accusation leading to more severe penalties.

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Postby The Erusean Republic » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:25 pm

The penalty for false accusations in your country?
Perjury charge and obstruction of justice charge which both are felonies.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:36 pm

The Erusean Republic wrote:The penalty for false accusations in your country?
Perjury charge and obstruction justice which both are felonies.

This. Plus restitution to the perjured.
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Postby Vallermoore » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:48 pm

The same penalty that the criminal would have got, if the accusation had indeed been true.

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Postby Conoga » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:08 pm

Monetary reparations.

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Postby Sterlingport » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:48 pm

Sol Bella wrote:
Sterlingport wrote:A person who has made a false accusation could be charged with wasting police time, filing a false report, defamation and/or perjury.

Penalties range from fines to ten years' imprisonment.



Daaaaaannngggg, that there's harsh.

...I like it :D. Maintains order.

Committing perjury in a capital case is considered a very serious offence, hence the ten years.
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Postby Wainscoting » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:11 pm

Sterlingport wrote:Committing perjury in a capital case is considered a very serious offence, hence the ten years.


Not an unreasonable approach to the issue.
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Postby Scraquos » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:52 pm

Perjury is considered a serious offence. If caught, the offender faces immediate punishment by being turned into a servitor to serve the as the Omnissiah wills. Their brain's are rewired and their bodies pierced through and altered with mechanical parts- turning them into a servant of the state. They are altered to be loyal to the Fabricator General and serve a multitude of fields depending upon their mechanical augmentations.
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Postby The Anglo-Libertarian Republic » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:02 am

Restitution for the officer resources and the damages/costs caused to the accused, if any. Essentially, the false accuser is given the entire court and law enforcement tab.
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Postby Dystara » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:55 am

It depends on the accused. And their blood. And their bank balance. (i.e. never accuse a Decemvir of anything, nor anyone with money in the bank)
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Postby Dagnia » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:30 am

It depends on the crimes involved and whether the accusation was malicious or some kind of mistake. Usually, it is a form of restitution to the falsely accused, plus a fine. A woman who is upset that the guy she had a one-night stand with did not call her the next morning and wants to call it rape could end up paying as much as 75% of her income to the falsely accused for the rest of her life because the mere accusation destroys a person's life. One who was raped, but identifies the wrong person as her rapist would not be punished at all. If someone is maliciously accused of stealing (the damage to the person is viewed as less permanent) the accuser would be fined and would pay restitution for any damages.
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