How does your country get rid of Capitalists?

[Aids-Land]

We make them die a slow painful death due to AIDS

[Vecherd]

We employ the same methods as our dear brothers.

And your brother is who?

[Hippostania]

They didn't work or study hard enough, and that is why they're homeless. I've got no sympathy for them. Everyone in Hippostania gets a good education for free and if you're too lazy to use that education to get a job, then boo-hoo.
And no, the chance of getting mugged in Herrebrugh is considerably higher. While we dedicate 27% of your tax income to Law & Order, you only dedicate 22%.

And if a car drives over you, it's not your fault. If you slip and fall down the stairs, then it's your fault.

Our nation has been ranked 1,505th in the world for Safest. You are only 7,310th.

And I would argue that there might be a reason that one would slip. Perhaps there was a piece of plastic on the floor, or the floor was wet.

7310 out of 86339 is still pretty good.

Usually wet floors are clearly marked, and you should be more careful if you slip on a piece of plastic.

[Russia and the Eastern Countires]

How does your country get rid of capitalists? In Chrisando, anyone who even sligtly thinks that capitalism might work in the slightest way gets nails in their eyes, gets their eyes wired open and must watch us pull their brain out of their nose. Anyway, how does your country rid themselves of capitalist pigs?

oh a while ago we got them all together and dropped a 300 megaton nuclear bomb on them(just kidding we shipped them to different countries although we are mass producing 300 megaton and 600 megaton bombs)

[Zonolia]

In Zonolia we either fire, arrest, or if they were good and pro-government we put then in charge of a Social-Capitalist Company.

[Coastal Chrisando]

We employ the same methods as our dear brothers.

And your brother is who?

The Great and All Mighty Leader's Communist Empire of Chrisando!

[Herrebrugh]

Our nation has been ranked 1,505th in the world for Safest. You are only 7,310th.

And I would argue that there might be a reason that one would slip. Perhaps there was a piece of plastic on the floor, or the floor was wet.

7310 out of 86339 is still pretty good.

Usually wet floors are clearly marked, and you should be more careful if you slip on a piece of plastic.

Usually, yes, but not always. And who know's what you are doing when you slip over plastic. Could be anything. Fact is, you can't blame somebody for having a little bit of bad luck. And the point is that my nation is safer then your nation.

[Tatec]

Capitalist's are not executed in the Republic, they are simply directed to control a company for the benefit of the State. If they do not perform this goal well however they can be executed for treason.

Last year the Head of Czech Appliance Wear was executed for treason when an investigation reported several failings in his business including the severe overcharge of customers.

[Hippostania]

7310 out of 86339 is still pretty good.

Usually wet floors are clearly marked, and you should be more careful if you slip on a piece of plastic.

Usually, yes, but not always. And who know's what you are doing when you slip over plastic. Could be anything. Fact is, you can't blame somebody for having a little bit of bad luck. And the point is that my nation is safer Herrebrugh is only barely more safe than Hippostania. When you also count in the fact that Herrebrugh is a socialist semi-dictatorship, you can easily say that Hippostania is a better place to live than Herrebrugh.

[Baharun]

I mix communism and capitalism, and put it all under the Sharia law.

[Syvorji]

We may be socialists, but we don't get rid of capitalists. If we got rid of them, we'd be no better than a Nazi country.

^ This. However, we have laws to keep them in check.

[Fjeld]

There are no capitalists in Fjeld, since ownership of the means of production is public, and since we value free speech economic liberals (that is, supporters of a capitalist system) are not persecuted.

[Herrebrugh]

Usually, yes, but not always. And who know's what you are doing when you slip over plastic. Could be anything. Fact is, you can't blame somebody for having a little bit of bad luck. And the point is that my nation is safer Herrebrugh is only barely more safe than Hippostania. When you also count in the fact that Herrebrugh is a socialist semi-dictatorship, you can easily say that Hippostania is a better place to live than Herrebrugh.

No not really. As here it is impossible to die from tripping over plastic unless it's an instant death or with very heavy injuries.

[Ordo Drakul]

The Order of Argan Argar insists Ludwig von Mises' Socialism is required reading, since it definitively proves that Socialism doesn't even look good on paper and is impracticable due to technical issues of pricing. This work is so inarguable that Socialists all pretend it doesn't exist, since it put the intellectual bullet into the head of a failed and perpetually failing dogma in 1920.

Of course, facts cannot dispute religious conviction, but von Mises did end the socialist dogma from taking hold with us...

[Solyhniya]

We have homeless here. They have chosen to become homeless by not working/studying hard enough, and they deserve it. The state does not help them in any way, except for some basic free health care.
If you break your leg, it's your fault.

They did not say: "Aaah, I think I'm going to become homeless when I grow up." Therefore they did not choose for it. What they need is a decent education which we can provide them with. The chance of getting mugged is therefore probably also much higher in seperatist Hippostania then in egalitarian Herrebrugh.

Also: a hypothetical situation. You're walking down the street when suddenly a car drives straight at you. You can't get away and the car hits you. How is that your fault then?

Exactly. So-called "meritocrats" often neglect to notice how much luck is inherent in life and in how well a person does. Luck is everywhere, all the time. A successful capitalist and a homeless man may have both worked equally hard, but the capitalist had an expensive private education and was able to exploit the opportunities given to him, whilst the homeless man had nothing to exploit in the first place.

Usually, yes, but not always. And who know's what you are doing when you slip over plastic. Could be anything. Fact is, you can't blame somebody for having a little bit of bad luck. And the point is that my nation is safer Herrebrugh is only barely more safe than Hippostania. When you also count in the fact that Herrebrugh is a socialist semi-dictatorship, you can easily say that Hippostania is a better place to live than Herrebrugh.

Face it mate, Herrebrugh's wiped the floor with you. Socialism makes sense, and if you want to punish people for bad luck, IRL or IC, then it's sick and it's plain wrong. Humanity should be better than that.

This is why Solynia is pretty much like Herrebrugh in this respect: no human being is allowed to fall victim to circumstance, and everyone is given a chance to achieve self-fulfilment, liberty and joy no matter how life has treated them.

[Novikov]

Currently, we leave them alone. In the late 1800s, however, we used the tried and true method of mass lynchings.

EDIT: I am not a mod. I will however, kindly remind other people in this thread to stick to the OP. The Capitalist/Socialist debates belong in General, not here.

[Herrebrugh]

They did not say: "Aaah, I think I'm going to become homeless when I grow up." Therefore they did not choose for it. What they need is a decent education which we can provide them with. The chance of getting mugged is therefore probably also much higher in seperatist Hippostania then in egalitarian Herrebrugh.

Also: a hypothetical situation. You're walking down the street when suddenly a car drives straight at you. You can't get away and the car hits you. How is that your fault then?

Exactly. So-called "meritocrats" often neglect to notice how much luck is inherent in life and in how well a person does. Luck is everywhere, all the time. A successful capitalist and a homeless man may have both worked equally hard, but the capitalist had an expensive private education and was able to exploit the opportunities given to him, whilst the homeless man had nothing to exploit in the first place.

Usually, yes, but not always. And who know's what you are doing when you slip over plastic. Could be anything. Fact is, you can't blame somebody for having a little bit of bad luck. And the point is that my nation is safer Herrebrugh is only barely more safe than Hippostania. When you also count in the fact that Herrebrugh is a socialist semi-dictatorship, you can easily say that Hippostania is a better place to live than Herrebrugh.

Face it mate, Herrebrugh's wiped the floor with you. Socialism makes sense, and if you want to punish people for bad luck, IRL or IC, then it's sick and it's plain wrong. Humanity should be better than that.

This is why Solynia is pretty much like Herrebrugh in this respect: no human being is allowed to fall victim to circumstance, and everyone is given a chance to achieve self-fulfilment, liberty and joy no matter how life has treated them.

Comrade, both IRL and IC

[Hippostania]

So you think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, just to aid some poor old bum who caused all that misery to himself?

[Wainscoting]

So you think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, just to aid some poor old bum who caused all that misery to himself?

There are those who do, yes. I'll keep my money, and I will strangle anybody who thinks he's got a right to "appropriate" all of it for his own needs. You are not entitled to happiness, merely to the long-term pursuit of it.

Now, mentlegen, you seem to have gone astray from the purpose of this thread. I would advise that you take this ideological discussion to NSG, where it properly belongs.

[Herrebrugh]

So you think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, just to aid some poor old bum who caused all that misery to himself?

I think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, to aid a poor man/woman who has either had bad luck or who has, for whatever reason, not been able to get a good education. That way they can return the favour when times are hard on the people who provided for them.

[Hippostania]

So you think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, just to aid some poor old bum who caused all that misery to himself?

I think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, to aid a poor man/woman who has either had bad luck or who has, for whatever reason, not been able to get a good education. That way they can return the favour when times are hard on the people who provided for them.

People should not be forced to help each other. If someone wants to help someone who was fallen on hard times voluntarily, then sure, do it. But you can't rob people's money and then give it to everyone else. That is stealing, and that is what you commies do.

[Wainscoting]

Limited assistance programs are one thing, and used in limited form and only for those who are truly needy, they serve a purpose, but when you start thinking you are entitled to an affluent life here on God's creation, and that everybody else owes it to you, the trouble begins.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, to aid a poor man/woman who has either had bad luck or who has, for whatever reason, not been able to get a good education. That way they can return the favour when times are hard on the people who provided for them.

People should not be forced to help each other. If someone wants to help someone who was fallen on hard times voluntarily, then sure, do it. But you can't rob people's money and then give it to everyone else. That is stealing, and that is what you commies do.

Pretty much this, if people want to help they will, if they don't they won't, either way it will teach a lesson that you shouldn't rely on others to help you ever. As cynical as that may be, it will make you more self reliant and more fearful of failure.

[Herrebrugh]

I think it is morally righteous to take money and resources from people who have worked hard to get them, to aid a poor man/woman who has either had bad luck or who has, for whatever reason, not been able to get a good education. That way they can return the favour when times are hard on the people who provided for them.

People should not be forced to help each other. If someone wants to help someone who was fallen on hard times voluntarily, then sure, do it. But you can't rob people's money and then give it to everyone else. That is stealing, and that is what you commies do.

I think the governing parties are perfectly capable of deciding their own policy.

THE END

[Wainscoting]

Pretty much this, if people want to help they will, if they don't they won't, either way it will teach a lesson that you shouldn't rely on others to help you ever. As cynical as that may be, it will make you more self reliant and more fearful of failure.

It does sound cynical, even cruel, but it is also true.

(OOC": I know from RL experience, the prospect of failure is frightening as Hell, and it does push you.)