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Postby Gandoor » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:55 am

Like most sensible nations have said, the Independent Socialist Nation of the Gandoor Democratic Republic we do not "get rid" of anyone regardless of their political orientation.
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:55 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Then why won't you name your country ''Libertarian Republic of Herrebrugh'' if the right-wingers win the elections.. Oh right, because you have an undemocratic constitution.


Wouldn't democracy being mentioned in our constitution mean Herrebrugh's a democracy?

Nothing like the Mcarthyist hellhole called Hippostania.

Sure, you have a democracy where socialists have all the power. Just like North Korea.
There are plenty of political parties from left to right in Hippostania, people are free to vote what they want. Our coat of arms, flag and country title aren't related to politics and people are pretty much ten times more free than you your opressed citizens.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:56 am

Hippostania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Wouldn't democracy being mentioned in our constitution mean Herrebrugh's a democracy?

Nothing like the Mcarthyist hellhole called Hippostania.

Sure, you have a democracy where socialists have all the power. Just like North Korea.
There are plenty of political parties from left to right in Hippostania, people are free to vote what they want. Our coat of arms, flag and country title aren't politically motivated and people are pretty much ten times more free as your opressed citizens.


Of course the Socialists have all the power. They are extremely popular with the people. When the liberals are popular, they will have all the power.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:00 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Sure, you have a democracy where socialists have all the power. Just like North Korea.
There are plenty of political parties from left to right in Hippostania, people are free to vote what they want. Our coat of arms, flag and country title aren't politically motivated and people are pretty much ten times more free as your opressed citizens.


Of course the Socialists have all the power. They are extremely popular with the people. When the liberals are popular, they will have all the power.

Except that your constitution gives socialists more powers such as the right to have ''socialist'' in your country title and a socialist symbol in the flag even when they're not in power.
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Postby Zeth Rekia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:00 am

There are none here by default for the next couple of reasons:
1. We're always moving, so immigrants have a hard time locating us usually in the cosmos. Currently, we are migrating from Utiplutinshka to another universe, so... yeah.
2. We're post-scarcity with an abundance of resources and the ability to get them to people who need them very easily. Over-abundance, to put it more precisely.
3. You can't sell things to people who don't have a track record have buying things. Therefore, we'd have no way of paying you. This just means you'd be wasting your time.

However, Zeth Rekian law dictates the following for resident Capitalists who seek to expand their domain, or profit... or whatever:
1. You must confine yourself to designated Compatibility Zones as set forth to you by the Tuurngait of Zeth Rekia.
2. You are only allowed to operate businesses in Zeth Rekia within these confined Compatibility Zones.
3. You cannot advertise with anything other than; Signs, Banners, and Fliers.
4. You may not advertise outside the confines of these Compatibility Zones.
5. Your currency, credit, and any other economic transferable is NULL and VOID outside of the Compatibility Zones.

Violation of any one of the above regulation can result in the following punishments:
1. All private property will be abolished in the means of production and distribution, title to such property is immediately liquidated by the FEMI-COLLECTIVIST MISANDRY OF ZETH REKIA. The said property will become ownerless and open for use for the entire community of Zeth Rekia.
2. All land and subsoil resources will be nationalized or liquidated without compensation to their former owners.
3. All industrial establishments, commercial enterprises, transportation facilities on land, sea and in the air and all communication services are hereby nationalized.
4. All water resources and facilities connected with industry, transportation, commerce and communication are hereby nationalized.
5. Ownership title to land is liquidated by the FEMI-COLLECTIVIST MISANDRY OF ZETH REKIA. All dwellings large and small, structures and edifices if all kinds wherever situated, including religious structures of all kinds, like churches, synagogues, convents, monasteries, religious schools, homes, hospitals and all humanitarian institutions and so forth conducted by religious organizations are hereby expunged if not under the leadership of Zenoists.
6. All former owners of these stated subjects will be deported from Zeth Rekia to a neighboring nationstate. Male offenders, specifically, will be liquidated along with their effects. Said individuals may dispute this by attending the council in attempt to negotiate their deportation.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:02 am

Hippostania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Of course the Socialists have all the power. They are extremely popular with the people. When the liberals are popular, they will have all the power.

Except that your constitution gives socialists more powers such as the right to have ''socialist'' in your country title and a socialist symbol in the flag even when they're not in power.


That isn't a "right". It's a law.

I would much rather live in my Herrebrugh and be succesful whatever happens then to live in the dark Hippostania where bad luck can be fatal.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:06 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Except that your constitution gives socialists more powers such as the right to have ''socialist'' in your country title and a socialist symbol in the flag even when they're not in power.


That isn't a "right". It's a law.

I would much rather live in my Herrebrugh and be succesful whatever happens then to live in the dark Hippostania where bad luck can be fatal.

Yeah.. It's an undemocratic law. Stop pretending to be democratic

I would never want to live in that commie hellhole Herrebrugh either, when I'd leave the airport a huge horde of bums would probably steal my wallet and spread its wealth to the proletariat. Goddamn bums.

Also, there is no such thing as luck. Everything depends on yourself.
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Postby Gandoor » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:06 am

The other country is more democratic than you. >.>
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:08 am

Hippostania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
That isn't a "right". It's a law.

I would much rather live in my Herrebrugh and be succesful whatever happens then to live in the dark Hippostania where bad luck can be fatal.

Yeah.. It's an undemocratic law. Stop pretending to be democratic

I would never want to live in that commie hellhole Herrebrugh either, when I'd leave the airport a huge horde of bums would probably steal my wallet and spread its wealth to the proletariat. Goddamn bums.

Also, there is no such thing as luck. Everything depends on yourself.


We don't have homeless here. They are provided with a house from the state where they are able to work to get their life back on track. This includes education, rehab and financial means.

And there is such a thing as luck. If you break your leg, you're pretty unlucky aren't you?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Sucrati » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:10 am

Why would we get rid of our Capitalists? It's good fun to see them throw their money around to charity organizations, after all, as we have no income tax, our economy keeps turning, our government expenditures are not outweighing our income (we have other methods ;)) Those who strive to create a better tomorrow for themselves and others without intervention of the government is fine by us.

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Postby Sucrati » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:12 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Yeah.. It's an undemocratic law. Stop pretending to be democratic

I would never want to live in that commie hellhole Herrebrugh either, when I'd leave the airport a huge horde of bums would probably steal my wallet and spread its wealth to the proletariat. Goddamn bums.

Also, there is no such thing as luck. Everything depends on yourself.


We don't have homeless here. They are provided with a house from the state where they are able to work to get their life back on track. This includes education, rehab and financial means.

And there is such a thing as luck. If you break your leg, you're pretty unlucky aren't you?


If some one tells you to break a leg, if you break your leg, you must have had good enough luck to follow a request of another person to break your own leg, if you had not broken your leg, your luck was unfortunate enough to avoid breaking your own leg.

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Postby Solyhniya » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:13 am

We let them make money for us through paying taxes and then watch as our standard of living and general quality of life skyrockets past yours.

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Postby Savedland » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:15 am

Chrisando wrote:How does your country get rid of capitalists? In Chrisando, anyone who even sligtly thinks that capitalism might work in the slightest way gets nails in their eyes, gets their eyes wired open and must watch us pull their brain out of their nose. Anyway, how does your country rid themselves of capitalist pigs?





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Postby Sibirsky » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:16 am

We don't.
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Postby Sucrati » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:18 am

Sibirsky wrote:We don't.


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Postby Amerikians » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:21 am

Promote them to Corpratists; of course. Which is a clever way of saying we're Capitalists.
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Postby Bergrisiheim » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:21 am

Chrisando wrote:How does your country get rid of capitalists? In Chrisando, anyone who even sligtly thinks that capitalism might work in the slightest way gets nails in their eyes, gets their eyes wired open and must watch us pull their brain out of their nose. Anyway, how does your country rid themselves of capitalist pigs?

We Bergrisar are of the opinion that if your way is superior, then it will not need to suppress a little competition. It will be proven best simply by its performance. If you need to suppress another's way, you clearly are the inferior way. By virtue of the fact that you suppress this "capitalist" way, we must conclude that it is superior to your way.
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:22 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Yeah.. It's an undemocratic law. Stop pretending to be democratic

I would never want to live in that commie hellhole Herrebrugh either, when I'd leave the airport a huge horde of bums would probably steal my wallet and spread its wealth to the proletariat. Goddamn bums.

Also, there is no such thing as luck. Everything depends on yourself.


We don't have homeless here. They are provided with a house from the state where they are able to work to get their life back on track. This includes education, rehab and financial means.

And there is such a thing as luck. If you break your leg, you're pretty unlucky aren't you?

We have homeless here. They have chosen to become homeless by not working/studying hard enough, and they deserve it. The state does not help them in any way, except for some basic free health care.
If you break your leg, it's your fault.
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Postby Unicario » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:24 am

Under the Personal Protection act of 1963, Capitalists are not persecuted in Unicario, and are instead put to use benefiting our mostly socialist economy.

Most capitalists do work for the government to keep our state economy under control.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:26 am

Hippostania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
We don't have homeless here. They are provided with a house from the state where they are able to work to get their life back on track. This includes education, rehab and financial means.

And there is such a thing as luck. If you break your leg, you're pretty unlucky aren't you?

We have homeless here. They have chosen to become homeless by not working/studying hard enough, and they deserve it. The state does not help them in any way, except for some basic free health care.
If you break your leg, it's your fault.


They did not say: "Aaah, I think I'm going to become homeless when I grow up." Therefore they did not choose for it. What they need is a decent education which we can provide them with. The chance of getting mugged is therefore probably also much higher in seperatist Hippostania then in egalitarian Herrebrugh.

Also: a hypothetical situation. You're walking down the street when suddenly a car drives straight at you. You can't get away and the car hits you. How is that your fault then?
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:34 am

We don't. Capitalists are, as a whole, the major source of CEV's economic growth. In fact, we let the capitalists duke it out in the corporate arena. May the best businessmen win.

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Postby Romalae » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:36 am

We do not "get rid" of anyone because of their ideology. Romalae is a free nation, with freedom to choose whatever political association one may desire, and face no persecution for it.
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:41 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:We have homeless here. They have chosen to become homeless by not working/studying hard enough, and they deserve it. The state does not help them in any way, except for some basic free health care.
If you break your leg, it's your fault.


They did not say: "Aaah, I think I'm going to become homeless when I grow up." Therefore they did not choose for it. What they need is a decent education which we can provide them with. The chance of getting mugged is therefore probably also much higher in seperatist Hippostania then in egalitarian Herrebrugh.

Also: a hypothetical situation. You're walking down the street when suddenly a car drives straight at you. You can't get away and the car hits you. How is that your fault then?

They didn't work or study hard enough, and that is why they're homeless. I've got no sympathy for them. Everyone in Hippostania gets a good education for free and if you're too lazy to use that education to get a job, then boo-hoo.
And no, the chance of getting mugged in Herrebrugh is considerably higher. While we dedicate 27% of your tax income to Law & Order, you only dedicate 22%.

And if a car drives over you, it's not your fault. If you slip and fall down the stairs, then it's your fault.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:45 am

Hippostania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
They did not say: "Aaah, I think I'm going to become homeless when I grow up." Therefore they did not choose for it. What they need is a decent education which we can provide them with. The chance of getting mugged is therefore probably also much higher in seperatist Hippostania then in egalitarian Herrebrugh.

Also: a hypothetical situation. You're walking down the street when suddenly a car drives straight at you. You can't get away and the car hits you. How is that your fault then?

They didn't work or study hard enough, and that is why they're homeless. I've got no sympathy for them. Everyone in Hippostania gets a good education for free and if you're too lazy to use that education to get a job, then boo-hoo.
And no, the chance of getting mugged in Herrebrugh is considerably higher. While we dedicate 27% of your tax income to Law & Order, you only dedicate 22%.

And if a car drives over you, it's not your fault. If you slip and fall down the stairs, then it's your fault.


Our nation has been ranked 1,505th in the world for Safest. You are only 7,310th.

And I would argue that there might be a reason that one would slip. Perhaps there was a piece of plastic on the floor, or the floor was wet.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Coastal Chrisando » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:46 am

We employ the same methods as our dear brothers.
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