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Omensa
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Omensa » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:52 am

Capitalism is frowned upon we dont do any thing bad to them though

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Hippostania
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Ex-Nation

Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:53 am

No, this isn't the end yet!

Your nation is an undemocratic communist hellhole. There, I said it.

Now it's the end.
THE END
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Wainscoting
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Postby Wainscoting » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:56 am

Omensa wrote:Capitalism is frowned upon we dont do any thing bad to them though


Thank you. This is a mildly reasonable approach.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Solyhniya » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:16 am

Hippostania wrote:No, this isn't the end yet!

Your nation is an undemocratic communist hellhole. There, I said it.

Now it's the end.
THE END


AFAIK, Herrebrugh's as democratic as they come. As are we.

We're also socialists, but we don't "execute" capitalists. The right to organise for the sake of industry is a basic right and who is the government to take that from people? So capitalism is allowed in Solynia, even though the vast majority of businesses are run as cooperatives. Therefore, production still remains in the hands of the workers without the need to concentrate all wealth and power in the State - even though the Government is meant to represent the People, the two are not the same and shouldn't be confused. Power to the state =/= power to the People.
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:18 am

Solyhniya wrote:
Hippostania wrote:No, this isn't the end yet!

Your nation is an undemocratic communist hellhole. There, I said it.

Now it's the end.
THE END


AFAIK, Herrebrugh's as democratic as they come. As are we.

We're also socialists, but we don't "execute" capitalists. The right to organise for the sake of industry is a basic right and who is the government to take that from people? So capitalism is allowed in Solynia, even though the vast majority of businesses are run as cooperatives. Therefore, production still remains in the hands of the workers without the need to concentrate all wealth and power in the State - even though the Government is meant to represent the People, the two are not the same and shouldn't be confused. Power to the state =/= power to the People.


You understand :hug:
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Molgravia
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Postby Molgravia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:28 am

Well, private business makes up a mere 16% of the economy of Molgravia and is by and large limited to small bespoke businesses that manufacture non-essential consumer goods; e.g. tailors, carpenters, shoemakers, sweetshops, toyshops, etc etc.

So... in Molgravia... we absorb capitalists into state industry!

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Postby Aethrys » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:29 am

Hippostania wrote:No, this isn't the end yet!

Your nation is an undemocratic communist hellhole. There, I said it.

Now it's the end.
THE END


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The average response to communism in your nation, from what I gather.

"You're free to elect whoever you want, so long as I agree with their ideology."

To be fair, the PRA isn't democratic in any sense of the word, but at least they don't pretend otherwise. "The party knows best" and all that.
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Postby Rupudska » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:31 am

Get rid of Capitalists? And what, throw away sanity?
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Postby Molgravia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:37 am

No... gain wisdom points.

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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:45 am

Solyhniya wrote:
AFAIK, Herrebrugh's as democratic as they come. As are we.

We're also socialists, but we don't "execute" capitalists. The right to organise for the sake of industry is a basic right and who is the government to take that from people? So capitalism is allowed in Solynia, even though the vast majority of businesses are run as cooperatives. Therefore, production still remains in the hands of the workers without the need to concentrate all wealth and power in the State - even though the Government is meant to represent the People, the two are not the same and shouldn't be confused. Power to the state =/= power to the People.

Any country that has political symbols in its flag, coat of arms or has a political party name in its nation title is NOT democratic
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Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Herrebrugh
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:46 am

Hippostania wrote:
Solyhniya wrote:
AFAIK, Herrebrugh's as democratic as they come. As are we.

We're also socialists, but we don't "execute" capitalists. The right to organise for the sake of industry is a basic right and who is the government to take that from people? So capitalism is allowed in Solynia, even though the vast majority of businesses are run as cooperatives. Therefore, production still remains in the hands of the workers without the need to concentrate all wealth and power in the State - even though the Government is meant to represent the People, the two are not the same and shouldn't be confused. Power to the state =/= power to the People.

Any country that has political symbols in its flag, coat of arms or has a political party name in its nation title is NOT democratic


"Socialist" is not the name of any political party in Herrebrugh.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Ghretengrad
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Postby Ghretengrad » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:58 am

We avoid having capitalist by teaching Pro-communism ideals only and not Pro-capitalism in all schools (kind of like brain washing them), the ones that protest are either sent somewhere else, or they "disappear" [Sometimes temporarily]
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Hippostania
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:07 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Any country that has political symbols in its flag, coat of arms or has a political party name in its nation title is NOT democratic


"Socialist" is not the name of any political party in Herrebrugh.

Socialist refers to the Socialist Party.
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Grand Pokarnia
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Postby Grand Pokarnia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:54 am

Actually we are a Capitalist nation.

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Herrebrugh
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:07 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
"Socialist" is not the name of any political party in Herrebrugh.

Socialist refers to the Socialist Party.


No, it refers to the fact that this country is Socialist.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Central Lothian
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Postby Central Lothian » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:21 pm

Nothing - since we're capitalists ourselves. (Admittedly, some things - like education and healthcare - are provided by the state.)
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Postby TurtleShroom » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:28 pm

GET RID of our Capitalists?

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Fine sir (or ma'am), capitalism is our nation's system! The only purpose of socialism in TurtleShroom is to provide a Safety Net to old folks, the disabled, and workman's compensation. Be you mushroom, turtle, or human, if you can WORK, the government isn't going to hold your hand. Now, if you're elderly... or incapacitated... or you lost a claw at work... contact our offices.

TurtleShroom's economy is low only because it has moral restrictions on capitalism, like bans on toxic waste dumping, or extremely draconian anti-corruption/insider trading/cheating/dishonesty laws.
We don't have minimum wage and worker safety laws are administered on the local level. Labor unions have been outlawed in TurtleShroom for over a hundred years, and businesses can fire and hire at whim.

TurtleShroom has always been very pro-business and has, at times, considered letting corporations run for office, provided they submit to public scrutiny, ethics, and general morality that shackles all public servants.

Wal-Mart has made a bid for our Congress every election year since 1975.
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Postby Frostaland » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:51 pm

Frostaland is capitalist, everything is privatized, not counting military and police. Instead of that, communists, post-communists, socialists, social-democrats, social-liberals and other freaks of nature are legal, but very frowned upon.



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Xanicea wrote:If you forcibly kick Capitalists out of your nation, you're either a genius (because you developed a planned economy that can grow/thrive without Capitalism) or you're an idiot (because you basically condemned your nation to economic stagnation and shrinkage)

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Helghast empire
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Postby Helghast empire » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:57 pm

We maintain a mostly state run economy, but without capitalists, we would have only an "excellent" economy. because of that, we've lightened up a bit to capitalists, hell they're the same people as you and I , except their way of living and way of doing economics is different. we also don't kick em out, hell we snatch them for use in our society, but they get a normal life besides that, nothing wrong..
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Sol Bella
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Postby Sol Bella » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:02 pm

My country is centrist entirely, so we have a share of both commie 'sheep' and capitalist 'pigs'. Aside from that, we tolerate everyone. Except extremists.

All in all, we're not laissez-faire and we're not big brother communists, we're just controlled free market.
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Pagalia
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Postby Pagalia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:04 pm

We embrace 'em. We just let them know we don't f&%k around with our people. Basically a "responsible" free market

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Hippostania
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Postby Hippostania » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:04 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Socialist refers to the Socialist Party.


No, it refers to the fact that this country is Socialist.

Yes, it also means that you give on ideology advantage over the others
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The Merchant Republics
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:05 pm

Typical barbarians.

Responding to reason with violence. No accounting for humanity in the ant farms, I suppose.


The Most Serene Confederation does not "get rid" of our capitalists, we celebrate them. The Merchant Republics would like to formally welcome all oppressed Capitalist from across the Galaxies to come to the Republics, save haven is here.
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Postby The cold ice » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:08 pm

Xanicea wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:We don't, because we aren't stupid.


This. We're Socialist, but our economy dictates that profit be made. That pretty much means we have to have Capitalists one way or another (if we want our economy to grow, that is).

If you forcibly kick Capitalists out of your nation, you're either a genius (because you developed a planned economy that can grow/thrive without Capitalism) or you're an idiot (because you basically condemned your nation to economic stagnation and shrinkage).

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