Hippostanian Parliamentary Elections [CLOSED]

[Mount Shavano]

Although it may be what was necessary to keep the Socialists out of power, the coalition appears very rickety. I wouldn't be shocked to see it collapse and a new election called before too much time passes (or would that simply result in a re-evaluation of the coalitions in Hippostania?). I'd also expect backers of the SDP to be furious over that coalition beating them out of government - they won a fairly decisive number of seats. Expect protests over that, even if it is completely legal.

The Front Range hopes the coalition holds together long enough to reduce government spending - hopefully with their conflicting interests no more unnecessary and expensive programs will pass the Parliament. That would help improve Hippostania's economy...

(I'm kind of curious - what sort of things is the governing coalition hoping to accomplish?)

[Dungeyland]

"Good Evening. This is the DBC Empire Service, providing news and current affairs to the Dangish Empire and the World. The time is 16:00 in New London.

In what some analysts are calling a democratic coup, the Social Democratic Party of Hippostania was excluded from government, despite having the largest amount of parliamentary seats. In an extraordinary turn of events, the Bourgeois Party, with only 42 seats in the 200-seat Parliament formed a coalition in order to govern.

While the SDP are the largest party in the Parliament, with 72 seats, they are twenty-nine seats short of a parliamentary majority. To achieve a majority, they would need more than a hundred seats, and being one of only two left of centre political parties in Parliament, this was incredibly difficult to achieve.

It took only three hours for the Bourgeois Party to assemble a coalition against the SDP and their supporters, the Hipponian People's Democratic League. The coalition was assembled of all other political parties, giving it a safe parliamentary majority of 120 seats. The resulting coalition is expected to be right of centre and libertarian. A parliamentary leader for the coalition has not been named, and the High Chancellor has not yet commented.

Despite the successful attempt to block an SDP government, the coalition is widely expected to collapse and a new election called. The SDP won 36% of parliamentary seats, and by extension will be feeling decisively cheated out of government. Signs of splits in the government are sure to appear, especially over economic and social policies. The DBC has produced a list of predictions of the new government's interests.

• In order to please the National Democratic Party, the government is expected to increase the size of the army. If the NDP were to pull out, the government would have a majority of 104 seats, so the NDP is definitely a threat.
• The Government must please the Liberal Democratic Progressive Party, who have 18 seats and can reduce a government majority to just two. To do this, the Bourgeois Party must become more liberal, although it is unlikely these parties will feud.
• The third threat is the United Liberal Alliance. With just as much power as the NDP, it will be difficult to please, and ending prohibition will only cause more trouble for the government.
• The remaining four coalition partners, Hippostania First, the Sermon Federal Party, the Green Alliance and the Centre Party all possess the power to rob the government of a majority. Together, they would leave the government with 93 seats if they walked out. Pleasing all of them will be incredibly difficult.

Indeed, the fragility of the government majority will undoubtedly cause a government collapse. It only takes a thorny issue such as alcohol prohibition, increasing the size of the armed forces and political reform to cause a collapse in confidence, so perhaps it would be wiser for the Bourgeois Party to call another election."

[Conscentia]

Bumping once more, I'm interested in your opinions.

Your elections were fixed and bias. SDP had (4 less than) double the votes of the bourgeois and you still gave the Bourgeois victory.

Despicable.

[Dungeyland]

Bumping once more, I'm interested in your opinions.

Your elections were fixed and bias. SDP had (4 less than) double the votes of the bourgeois and you still gave the Bourgeois victory.

Despicable.

It is a coalition system. The SDP did not win a majority. Therefore, the other parties had an opportunity to form a government, which they took.

[Conscentia]

Your elections were fixed and bias. SDP had (4 less than) double the votes of the bourgeois and you still gave the Bourgeois victory.

Despicable.

It is a coalition system. The SDP did not win a majority. Therefore, the other parties had an opportunity to form a government, which they took.

The SDP had almost double the votes of the Bourgeois...they had the most votes.
They should be in government, and the fact they are not is a violation of democracy.

[Dungeyland]

It is a coalition system. The SDP did not win a majority. Therefore, the other parties had an opportunity to form a government, which they took.

The SDP had almost double the votes of the Bourgeois...they had the most votes.
They should be in government, and the fact they are not is a violation of democracy.

"Almost" is a key word. Also, they may have had the most votes, but they didn't have more than anybody else, which is what you need to form a government. It isn't a violation of democracy, it is democracy at work in a different way. Enough people don't want the SDP in power to negate the fact that they best represent the people.

[Voerdeland]

It is a coalition system. The SDP did not win a majority. Therefore, the other parties had an opportunity to form a government, which they took.

The SDP had almost double the votes of the Bourgeois...they had the most votes.
They should be in government, and the fact they are not is a violation of democracy.

No it is not. Right-wing coalition won the majority.

Similar situation is in RL Israel (with Kadima being both the largest party in the Kneset and the main opposition). Do you think that Israel is not democratic?

[ArghNeedAName]

United Voice of ArghNeedAName reports:

Horton: "The results are in from the recent elections in Hippostania. The Liberal Democratic Progressive Party, previously holding 70 out of the 200 seats, has largely collapsed, presumably due to dissent against the current governent. Overall, votes have shifted away from moderate parties. The two far-right parties (the Bourgeouis and National Democrats) together picked up over 40 votes. But the best performing party was the Social Democrats, who rose from being a minor party to holding 70 seats, but failed to form a govenment. The Social Democrats had been endorsed by the ArghNeedAName government.

With 100 seats being required for a majority, the other parties have united together to form a coalition within 120 seats, while the Social Democrats and the People's Democratic League are left in opposition. The moderate parties, whose representation has take a blow in the recent election, have united with the Bourgeouis and National Democrats to keep out the rising popularity of the left. Political correspondent John Davis reports, from Waverley:"

Davis: "The new coalition is unlikely to be popular, since they've effectively united to keep out the SDP and HPDL, even though together the leftist parties gained substantially in popularity. What's more, about half of the coalition is controlled by the two far-right parties (who gained 41 seats) and presumably this is where the new Prime Minister will come from."

Horton: "What led to some of the more moderate parties joining the coalition?"

Davis: "Presumably dislike of the two lefist parties. Overall, Hippostania is quite libertaran in character and the Social Democrats and People's League only won fifteen seats in the last election. Although left wing policies historically haven't been popular, the fall of the Liberal Democratic Progressives and the declining popularity of the moderates has clearly led to a surge in the popularity of the SDP. At the same time, many more conservative Hippostanian voters who were also growing tired of the LDPP moved to the two so-called far right parties - the Bourgeois and National Democrats."

Horton: "And what do you think that the political policies of the coalition will be?"

Davis: "It's hard to say, but they're doomed. In my experience, political parties tend to be united on economic issues rather than social issues. For example, parties will always use their whips when passing governmnt programs and the budget, but will allow members to vote freely on social issues. A party without clear economic platform is rather like a ship with no rudder, and yet the moderate United Liberal Alliance and Center Party, for example, clearly lacks this."

Horton: "They'll have to take steps to appease the parties that agreed to join the coalition. What sort of things will they do?"

Davis: "They'll have to increase military spending to appease the National Democrats. And to appease the LDP and United Liberal Alliance, they'll have to do some socially liberal programs, but there are also many social conservatives on board here, especially the National Democrats, so they'll struggle to get things through. But the biggest issue is economic policy. When the current coalition's unity is tested by the passing of the budget, they'll need support from the Greens, CP and ULA even though the Bourgeois Party will be behind the creation of the budget. I can't really imagine them holding together at all."

Horton: "Thank you John Davis. Prominent Social Democrats have condemned the decision of several moderate parties to join a "rickety union" with the Bourgeois Party...

[Chinese Regions]

We are disappointed although SDP got the most votes, they did not have the majority seats.

[Sovereign Rulers]

The decision making will get chaotic to say the least.

[Hippostania]

I see that most of you didn't like the fact that SDP didn't get into the coalition. Right-wing parties got most of the votes, so there's no reason why SDP should be in the coalition.
And if there would be any reason why this goverment would collapse, it's because a small party like SDP became stretched too big, too fast.

[Conscentia]

I see that most of you didn't like the fact that SDP didn't get into the coalition. Right-wing parties got most of the votes, so there's no reason why SDP should be in the coalition.
And if there would be any reason why this goverment would collapse, it's because a small party like SDP became stretched too big, too fast.

The only reason the right won is because there are more right-wing parties...people had little choice.

((You are saying that deliberately to avoid RPing as a centrist.))

[ArghNeedAName]

I'm interested by a couple of things:

1) Which parties are in the new coalition that weren't in the previous one?
2) Do parties get united by social issues or economic issues? In ArghNeedAName, it's economic issues that parties tend to deal with the most when forming coalitions.
3) What reasons did the moderate parties such as the Greens, Centers and United Liberals give for joining a right wing coalition rather than a left wing one? These parties don't really have a clear economic platform.
4) Which party will the new Prime Minister (or whoever the leader is) come from?
5) Which areas saw the greatest shift of votes?

[Voerdeland]

I see that most of you didn't like the fact that SDP didn't get into the coalition. Right-wing parties got most of the votes, so there's no reason why SDP should be in the coalition.
And if there would be any reason why this goverment would collapse, it's because a small party like SDP became stretched too big, too fast.

The only reason the right won is because there are more right-wing parties...people had little choice.

((You are saying that deliberately to avoid RPing as a centrist.))

No. If there was only one right-wing party, it would win an outright majority.

[Conscentia]

The only reason the right won is because there are more right-wing parties...people had little choice.

((You are saying that deliberately to avoid RPing as a centrist.))

No. If there was only one right-wing party, it would win an outright majority.

I've seen may polls on this platform sir...in all of them socialism outnumber all other ideologies with the exception of libertarianism on some occasions.
The reason the right won here is because all the parties are right wing here.

[Dungeyland]

I'm interested by a couple of things:

1) Which parties are in the new coalition that weren't in the previous one?
2) Do parties get united by social issues or economic issues? In ArghNeedAName, it's economic issues that parties tend to deal with the most when forming coalitions.
3) What reasons did the moderate parties such as the Greens, Centers and United Liberals give for joining a right wing coalition rather than a left wing one? These parties don't really have a clear economic platform.
4) Which party will the new Prime Minister (or whoever the leader is) come from?
5) Which areas saw the greatest shift of votes?

1) Hippostania hasn't told us about the old coalition. Judging by the previous seats, it would probably have been an LDPP/Green Alliance coalition, or alternatively LDPP with a load of smaller parties.
2) It's highly likely that they'd be interested by economic issues, although most of them agree on those.
3) The Greens are "green liberals". The right-wing parties are liberals too. Whereas the SDP can be called socialist. The Centres are conservatives, so they'd naturally go right instead of left. The United Liberals probably had a decision to make: join the coalition or join the opposition and be left out of government.
4) Reading the Hippostanian factbook, there's no Prime Minister, only a High Chancellor elected every 10 years. Since we haven't elected a HC, it means these elections are mid-terms. The leader of Parliament, however, will most certainly be Bourgeois.
5) The LDPP saw a drop of support from 35% to 9%. That's pretty damn extraordinary. However the Social Democrats went from 5.5% to 35%. The Bourgeois Party saw a surge in support from 4.5% to 21%. The LDPP are the main losers, despite being in government again.

[Dungeyland]

No. If there was only one right-wing party, it would win an outright majority.

I've seen may polls on this platform sir...in all of them socialism outnumber all other ideologies with the exception of libertarianism on some occasions.
The reason the right won here is because all the parties are right wing here.

Nope. The reason the right won is because the right had the balls to join up with each other in order to govern.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I see that most of you didn't like the fact that SDP didn't get into the coalition. Right-wing parties got most of the votes, so there's no reason why SDP should be in the coalition.
And if there would be any reason why this goverment would collapse, it's because a small party like SDP became stretched too big, too fast.

Still, the parties more left wing than the LDPP (which is pretty much centrist by your standards) got 51% of the votes total, if anything a coalition of all of the left wing parties would make more sense then everyone vs the social democrats. Hell they don't even have to be politically similar to form a coalition government, the most logical thing would probably be a coalition government of the SDP and BP.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

I've seen may polls on this platform sir...in all of them socialism outnumber all other ideologies with the exception of libertarianism on some occasions.
The reason the right won here is because all the parties are right wing here.

Nope. The reason the right won is because the right had the balls to join up with each other in order to govern.

You mean every single party except one agreed to join up even though the largest one is borderline fascist, and several of the parties are moderate by most standards, and left-wing by his standards.

[Dungeyland]

Nope. The reason the right won is because the right had the balls to join up with each other in order to govern.

You mean every single party except one agreed to join up even though the largest one is borderline fascist, and several of the parties are moderate by most standards, and left-wing by his standards.

Considering all the coalition partners are righter than the SDP and the HDPP, yes.

[Hippostania]

I'm interested by a couple of things:

1) Which parties are in the new coalition that weren't in the previous one?
2) Do parties get united by social issues or economic issues? In ArghNeedAName, it's economic issues that parties tend to deal with the most when forming coalitions.
3) What reasons did the moderate parties such as the Greens, Centers and United Liberals give for joining a right wing coalition rather than a left wing one? These parties don't really have a clear economic platform.
4) Which party will the new Prime Minister (or whoever the leader is) come from?
5) Which areas saw the greatest shift of votes?

1) NDP, Center Party and ULA weren't in the previous coalition
2) Usually they get united by economic issues
3) Because all these parties are a bit more right-wing than left-wing. They also knew that if they joined the leftist coalition, they'd lose most of their support in the next elections
4) Parliamentary Chancellor will be from the main coalition party, in this case from the Bourgeois Party
5) There were three
LDPP gained the most votes in generally NDP-stronghold areas of Surrey and Milton Keynes.
SDP gained a lot of support in the Edinburgh-Wokingham area
NDP actually got some votes from the Waverley Capital District

[Voerdeland]

Good evening. You are watching the Voerdish State Television Channel 4 and these are the latest headlines.

Senator Thomas de Beer will be standing in the Kronstadt provincial election, said his spokesman [...]

Results of the parliamentary election are published - coalition of 8 conservative and liberal parties will rule Hippostania, even though the centre-left Social Democratic Party won a plurality of 70 seats. Many SDP supporters view the Bourgeois Party-led coalition as a slap on democracy, but everything is already decided - well, not everything: the new High Chancellor isn't yet named.

14 people were injured in a bus accident in Plymouth...

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

You mean every single party except one agreed to join up even though the largest one is borderline fascist, and several of the parties are moderate by most standards, and left-wing by his standards.

Considering all the coalition partners are righter than the SDP and the HDPP, yes.

All of the coalition parties are also farther left than the BP.

Lets examine some of those parties and their distances from the BP and SDP.

CP: 8 seats
2 units farther right and 1 unit more authoritarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 1 unit more authoritarian than the BP

SFPH: 2 seats
3 units farther right and 2 units more libertarian than the SDP
6 units farther left and 2 units more libertarian than the BP

ULA: 16 seats
2 units farther right and 4 units more libertarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 4 units more libertarian than the BP

Final
Left-wing Coalition: 96 (does not include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
All Right-wing and centrist parties: 94 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
Left-wing and centrist coalition: 122 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))

The left-wing parties have a majority and are far closer to the SDP than the BP, them uniting with the BP against he SDP makes no real sense since they will have less influence in the government alone or combined, at least with the SDP the most powerful party has somewhat similar beliefs. If the left-wing parties had any brains at all they would join with the SDP and have a coalition government, which if the GA and LDPP joined them (which isn't that far fetched) they would have a bigger majority than everyone except the SDP.

[Dungeyland]

Considering all the coalition partners are righter than the SDP and the HDPP, yes.

All of the coalition parties are also farther left than the BP.

Lets examine some of those parties and their distances from the BP and SDP.

CP: 8 seats
2 units farther right and 1 unit more authoritarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 1 unit more authoritarian than the BP

SFPH: 2 seats
3 units farther right and 2 units more libertarian than the SDP
6 units farther left and 2 units more libertarian than the BP

ULA: 16 seats
2 units farther right and 4 units more libertarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 4 units more libertarian than the BP

Final
Left-wing Coalition: 96 (does not include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
All Right-wing and centrist parties: 94 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
Left-wing and centrist coalition: 122 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))

The left-wing parties have a majority and are far closer to the SDP than the BP, them uniting with the BP against he SDP makes no real sense since they will have less influence in the government alone or combined, at least with the SDP the most powerful party has somewhat similar beliefs. If the left-wing parties had any brains at all they would join with the SDP and have a coalition government, which if the GA and LDPP joined them (which isn't that far fetched) they would have a bigger majority than everyone except the SDP.

That may be true, but ideologically, the political parties are further right. None of them support traditional social-democratic values like a welfare state and worker's rights. They support the free market.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

All of the coalition parties are also farther left than the BP.

Lets examine some of those parties and their distances from the BP and SDP.

CP: 8 seats
2 units farther right and 1 unit more authoritarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 1 unit more authoritarian than the BP

SFPH: 2 seats
3 units farther right and 2 units more libertarian than the SDP
6 units farther left and 2 units more libertarian than the BP

ULA: 16 seats
2 units farther right and 4 units more libertarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 4 units more libertarian than the BP

Final
Left-wing Coalition: 96 (does not include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
All Right-wing and centrist parties: 94 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
Left-wing and centrist coalition: 122 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))

The left-wing parties have a majority and are far closer to the SDP than the BP, them uniting with the BP against he SDP makes no real sense since they will have less influence in the government alone or combined, at least with the SDP the most powerful party has somewhat similar beliefs. If the left-wing parties had any brains at all they would join with the SDP and have a coalition government, which if the GA and LDPP joined them (which isn't that far fetched) they would have a bigger majority than everyone except the SDP.

That may be true, but ideologically, the political parties are further right. None of them support traditional social-democratic values like a welfare state and worker's rights. They support the free market.

Most of them don't even have stated economic policies, and some that do such as the ULA are divided on economic policy. You are just making up stuff now.