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Poll ended at Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:32 am

Bourgeois Party
21
20%
Center Party
4
4%
Green Alliance
4
4%
Hipponian People's Democratic League
5
5%
Hippostania First
3
3%
Liberal Democratic Progressive Party
11
11%
National Democratic Party
8
8%
Sermoan Federal Party of Hippostania
1
1%
Social Democratic Party
39
38%
United Liberal Alliance
8
8%
 
Total votes : 104

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Vecherd
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:59 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Hippostania has a population of 2,16 billion people and there are only 200 seats in the parliament. To get one seat, your party has to get around ~15 million votes, since about 75% of the population votes in the elections


Well that's just stupid!


You are obviously trying to force a ideology down the throat of a people that does not want it.
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[spoiler=Political Stuff]Left/Right: 8.12
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:00 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:We hope that if your only centrist party, the social democratic party, is elected, it shall open the door to leftist parties.

We don't need another party ''to open doors'' to other parties. I think you're underestimating Hippostanians. What if they do not want a socialist goverment? To participate in elections in Hippostania, an organization has to get 50 000 supporter cards so it can be classified as a political party and participate in elections. Socialist parties have never gained more than 10 000.


Your system is flawed, number of followers should not be the criteria for whether or not a party may participate.
Instead each political party should fill out a form/test that certifies that if elected it would be able to fill the role as government. All those who want to be politicians should be tested for qualifications.


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Hippostania
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:01 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:Hippostania has a population of 2,16 billion people and there are only 200 seats in the parliament. To get one seat, your party has to get around ~15 million votes, since about 75% of the population votes in the elections


Well that's just stupid!

Adding more seats to the parliament would require us to build an expansion to the Houses of Parliament. It would also be very expensive to have ~2000 seats in the parliament. 200 is a lot better.
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Hippostania
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:02 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Vecherd wrote:
You are obviously trying to force a ideology down the throat of a people that does not want it.


If they didn't want it why would their most leftist party be getting the majority of votes?

OOC: Because that isn't Hippostanians who are voting, it's the NS community. Tbh, I did not expect the NS community to be this socialist.
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Dungeyland
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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:03 pm

The right-wing vote is split, due to there being many right-wing parties and only one left-wing one.
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:05 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
If they didn't want it why would their most leftist party be getting the majority of votes?

OOC: Because that isn't Hippostanians who are voting, it's the NS community. Tbh, I did not expect the NS community to be this socialist.


OOC: RP as a having a coalition system and according to the poll you`ll do fine.
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Fonteveille
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Postby Fonteveille » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:06 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
If they didn't want it why would their most leftist party be getting the majority of votes?

OOC: Because that isn't Hippostanians who are voting, it's the NS community. Tbh, I did not expect the NS community to be this socialist.


OOC: most of us probably aren't socialist, we are mostly objecting to your electoral system and complete lack of a party to the left of the center

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Dungeyland
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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:13 pm

The Dangish Empire would like to indicate it's preference for a coalition between the Bourgeois Party and the Liberal Democratic Progressive Party.
Classical liberal.
  • My nation is called the Dangish Empire, officially
  • The population is circa 500 million
  • It is an imperial federation
  • The term Dungeyland while only technically referring to one colony can be used for the entire Empire (think Holland)
  • The Dangish Empire is a constitutional monarchy, our monarch is Queen Ellen I

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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:15 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Well that's just stupid!

Adding more seats to the parliament would require us to build an expansion to the Houses of Parliament. It would also be very expensive to have ~2000 seats in the parliament. 200 is a lot better.


You don't need 2000 seats in Parliament... more like 600.
Classical liberal.
  • My nation is called the Dangish Empire, officially
  • The population is circa 500 million
  • It is an imperial federation
  • The term Dungeyland while only technically referring to one colony can be used for the entire Empire (think Holland)
  • The Dangish Empire is a constitutional monarchy, our monarch is Queen Ellen I

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:24 pm

Dungeyland wrote:The Dangish Empire would like to indicate it's preference for a coalition between the Bourgeois Party and the Liberal Democratic Progressive Party.


Coalition between the Bourgeois Party and the Social Democratic Party seems more likely.

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Dungeyland
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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:31 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:The Dangish Empire would like to indicate it's preference for a coalition between the Bourgeois Party and the Liberal Democratic Progressive Party.


Coalition between the Bourgeois Party and the Social Democratic Party seems more likely.


How? Both combinations would give a parliamentary majority, and the LDPP are very similar to the BP.
Classical liberal.
  • My nation is called the Dangish Empire, officially
  • The population is circa 500 million
  • It is an imperial federation
  • The term Dungeyland while only technically referring to one colony can be used for the entire Empire (think Holland)
  • The Dangish Empire is a constitutional monarchy, our monarch is Queen Ellen I

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:33 pm

Dungeyland wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Coalition between the Bourgeois Party and the Social Democratic Party seems more likely.


How? Both combinations would give a parliamentary majority, and the LDPP are very similar to the BP.


Wait what?

The people seem split between BP and SDP so give them both. Similarity is irrelevant - Democracy is the goal.
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Dungeyland
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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:34 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:
How? Both combinations would give a parliamentary majority, and the LDPP are very similar to the BP.


Wait what?

The people seem split between BP and SDP so give them both.


That's silly. Oh look, the Communists have 30 seats, the Fascists have 30 seats, and the remaining 30 are occupied by other parties. Let's have a Communist-Fascist coalition!
Classical liberal.
  • My nation is called the Dangish Empire, officially
  • The population is circa 500 million
  • It is an imperial federation
  • The term Dungeyland while only technically referring to one colony can be used for the entire Empire (think Holland)
  • The Dangish Empire is a constitutional monarchy, our monarch is Queen Ellen I

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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:35 pm

Dungeyland wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Wait what?

The people seem split between BP and SDP so give them both.


That's silly. Oh look, the Communists have 30 seats, the Fascists have 30 seats, and the remaining 30 are occupied by other parties. Let's have a Communist-Fascist coalition!


Well that's democracy for you...though I don't know how such a country hasn't had a civil war yet.

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Postby 21-06-11 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:36 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:
How? Both combinations would give a parliamentary majority, and the LDPP are very similar to the BP.


Wait what?

The people seem split between BP and SDP so give them both. Similarity is irrelevant - Democracy is the goal.

What's the point in electing a government if it can't actually do anything due to ideological differences?
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Dungeyland
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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:37 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:
That's silly. Oh look, the Communists have 30 seats, the Fascists have 30 seats, and the remaining 30 are occupied by other parties. Let's have a Communist-Fascist coalition!


Well that's democracy for you...though I don't know how such a country hasn't had a civil war yet.


No... that's not democracy; coalitions in general AREN'T democracy. Not to be rude, but are you American or do you not know about how coalitions work?
Classical liberal.
  • My nation is called the Dangish Empire, officially
  • The population is circa 500 million
  • It is an imperial federation
  • The term Dungeyland while only technically referring to one colony can be used for the entire Empire (think Holland)
  • The Dangish Empire is a constitutional monarchy, our monarch is Queen Ellen I

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Postby 21-06-11 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:41 pm

Dungeyland wrote:coalitions in general AREN'T democracy.

They are if decided upon before an election. The type being proposed in this thread however (and the type we have in the UK at the moment) is quite undemocratic though, I'd agree
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Dungeyland
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Postby Dungeyland » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:56 pm

21-06-11 wrote:
Dungeyland wrote:coalitions in general AREN'T democracy.

They are if decided upon before an election. The type being proposed in this thread however (and the type we have in the UK at the moment) is quite undemocratic though, I'd agree



I take your point, but those coalitions generally tend to campaign individually, I believe. Our coalition, the Lib-Cons, is more democratic than any of the alternatives, like a Lib-Lab-minorities one, I'd say.
Classical liberal.
  • My nation is called the Dangish Empire, officially
  • The population is circa 500 million
  • It is an imperial federation
  • The term Dungeyland while only technically referring to one colony can be used for the entire Empire (think Holland)
  • The Dangish Empire is a constitutional monarchy, our monarch is Queen Ellen I

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Hippostania
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Postby Hippostania » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:08 am

Just to make things clear.. After the elections are over, the parties try to form a coalition. Coalition generally includes the largest party and some smaller ones, but sometimes the winner of the elections doesn't get into the coalition, and is left to the opposition. So, coalition parties generally do all the decisions and opposition parties whine about them and try to stop them. This way we can be progressive,because if we'd let all parties into the coalition, nothing would happen because of ideological differences.
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Hippostania
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Postby Hippostania » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:00 am

Bumping, I need more votes!
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Rokartian States » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:23 am

Rokartia supports the Social Democratic Party in full, as we believe that they will bring more prosperity and a higher quality of life to the people of Hippostania.
Note: My nation does not necessarily represent my true political views.

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Postby Synavia » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:45 am

Conscentia wrote:Why are all your parties right wing? Even the ones that claim to be left wing? Something is seriously wrong in Hippostania.

Everything is seriously wrong in Hippostania. Did you know that they detonated three nukes in a neutral country as a first strike? Not to mention that for a time, Synavia was a protectorate of Hippostania, and got abused, bullied, and opressed ino doing Hippostania's will. No wonder connections between us are rather icy.
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Postby Sovereign Rulers » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:00 am

The P.R.S.R grants its support to SDP and hope that they'll consider an even more radical turn to the left.
Economic Left/Right: -8.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

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Postby Hippostania » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:12 am

Sovereign Rulers wrote:The P.R.S.R grants its support to SDP and hope that they'll consider an even more radical turn to the left.

Don't worry, that won't happen
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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