Hippostanian Parliamentary Elections [CLOSED]

[Hippostania]

Considering all the coalition partners are righter than the SDP and the HDPP, yes.

All of the coalition parties are also farther left than the BP.

Lets examine some of those parties and their distances from the BP and SDP.

CP: 8 seats
2 units farther right and 1 unit more authoritarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 1 unit more authoritarian than the BP

SFPH: 2 seats
3 units farther right and 2 units more libertarian than the SDP
6 units farther left and 2 units more libertarian than the BP

ULA: 16 seats
2 units farther right and 4 units more libertarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 4 units more libertarian than the BP

Final
Left-wing Coalition: 96 (does not include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
All Right-wing and centrist parties: 94 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
Left-wing and centrist coalition: 122 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))

The left-wing parties have a majority and are far closer to the SDP than the BP, them uniting with the BP against he SDP makes no real sense since they will have less influence in the government alone or combined, at least with the SDP the most powerful party has somewhat similar beliefs. If the left-wing parties had any brains at all they would join with the SDP and have a coalition government, which if the GA and LDPP joined them (which isn't that far fetched) they would have a bigger majority than everyone except the SDP.

LDPP is a liberal party. It has nothing to do with SDP.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

All of the coalition parties are also farther left than the BP.

Lets examine some of those parties and their distances from the BP and SDP.

CP: 8 seats
2 units farther right and 1 unit more authoritarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 1 unit more authoritarian than the BP

SFPH: 2 seats
3 units farther right and 2 units more libertarian than the SDP
6 units farther left and 2 units more libertarian than the BP

ULA: 16 seats
2 units farther right and 4 units more libertarian than the SDP
7 units farther left and 4 units more libertarian than the BP

Final
Left-wing Coalition: 96 (does not include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
All Right-wing and centrist parties: 94 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))
Left-wing and centrist coalition: 122 (does include the centrist parties (ie: LDPP and GA))

The left-wing parties have a majority and are far closer to the SDP than the BP, them uniting with the BP against he SDP makes no real sense since they will have less influence in the government alone or combined, at least with the SDP the most powerful party has somewhat similar beliefs. If the left-wing parties had any brains at all they would join with the SDP and have a coalition government, which if the GA and LDPP joined them (which isn't that far fetched) they would have a bigger majority than everyone except the SDP.

LDPP is a liberal party. It has nothing to do with SDP.

Never said it did, but it is a similar distance from the SDP and BP, meaning that it supporting one party instead of the other isn't that absurd.

[Hippostania]

Never said it did, but it is a similar distance from the SDP and BP, meaning that it supporting one party instead of the other isn't that absurd.

Let me quote the first post


Market liberalism, social liberalism
LDPP is a classical liberal party that supports civil and political rights. According to LDPP, the right to free trade is a human right. They're not as conservative as the BP

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Never said it did, but it is a similar distance from the SDP and BP, meaning that it supporting one party instead of the other isn't that absurd.

Let me quote the first post


Market liberalism, social liberalism
LDPP is a classical liberal party that supports civil and political rights. According to LDPP, the right to free trade is a human right. They're not as conservative as the BP

Derp. If they aren't close to either party they should remain independent and not join a coalition lead by the BP or by the SDP.

[Dungeyland]

They're closer to the BP than they are to the SDP. Everybody's closer to the BP than the SDP.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

They're closer to the BP than they are to the SDP. Everybody's closer to the BP than the SDP.

Except for about half of the parties all of which I had pointed out before.

[Hippostania]

Let me quote the first post

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Market liberalism, social liberalism
LDPP is a classical liberal party that supports civil and political rights. According to LDPP, the right to free trade is a human right. They're not as conservative as the BP

Derp. If they aren't close to either party they should remain independent and not join a coalition lead by the BP or by the SDP.

LDPP and BP are both support laissez-faire capitalism. I don't see why LDPP should remain independent and outside the coalition

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Derp. If they aren't close to either party they should remain independent and not join a coalition lead by the BP or by the SDP.

LDPP and BP are both support laissez-faire capitalism. I don't see why LDPP should remain independent and outside the coalition

Because the BP is still very far right by their standards. Just because they share a few opinions doesn't mean that they should throw their complete support behind a party. It would be as if the Conservative party in the UK agreed to form a coalition government with the BNP because they both are against immigration.

[Hippostania]

LDPP and BP are both support laissez-faire capitalism. I don't see why LDPP should remain independent and outside the coalition

Because the BP is still very far right by their standards. Just because they share a few opinions doesn't mean that they should throw their complete support behind a party. It would be as if the Conservative party in the UK agreed to form a coalition government with the BNP because they both are against immigration.

Not really. Both parties support extensive civil rights and laissez-faire capitalism. They disagree on only minor issues. And are you comparing BP to BNP? If you are, that's a shitty comparision.

[Mount Shavano]

Crazy idea:
*Keep the elections results by seats/party
*Ret-con the coalitions
*Find an NS player to represent each party (preferably one who voted for them; I would happily take the centrists)
*Create new RP thread
*Have players negotiate until coalitions are formed
*????
*Profit!

You would probably want to give each player a slightly more detailed "character sheet" representing his party, and maybe lump some of the smaller, similar parties together. If you go for it, you should probably man the BP yourself. Whadda ya think?

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Because the BP is still very far right by their standards. Just because they share a few opinions doesn't mean that they should throw their complete support behind a party. It would be as if the Conservative party in the UK agreed to form a coalition government with the BNP because they both are against immigration.

Not really. Both parties support extensive civil rights and laissez-faire capitalism. They disagree on only minor issues. And are you comparing BP to BNP? If you are, that's a shitty comparision.

No I wasn't comparing the BP to the BNP, I was comparing a party the Conservative Party and LDPP aligning with a party they see as radicals BP and BNP, because they agree on just one issue immigration and free market is stupid. Also, looking at that chart they are pretty far apart. Also, it doesn't matter if the LDPP supports the SDP, because as long as most of the parties to its left support the SDP they can still gain a majority. Honestly it seems like an ass-pull so that you don't have to change your policies, and even if you don't, there are better ways you could have done it, like a BP/SDP coalition, they wouldn't be able to agree on most issues when it comes to the economy, but have mostly the same social views.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Crazy idea:
*Keep the elections results by seats/party
*Ret-con the coalitions
*Find an NS player to represent each party (preferably one who voted for them; I would happily take the centrists)
*Create new RP thread
*Have players negotiate until coalitions are formed
*????
*Profit!

You would probably want to give each player a slightly more detailed "character sheet" representing his party, and maybe lump some of the smaller, similar parties together. If you go for it, you should probably man the BP yourself. Whadda ya think?

See that would also be a good idea.

Also, I have had votes about my nation's policies, and besides making less popular options require more votes, I always carry out the vote, like allowing female monarchs, or making it mandatory for slaves to get a high school education.

[Hippostania]

Crazy idea:
*Keep the elections results by seats/party
*Ret-con the coalitions
*Find an NS player to represent each party (preferably one who voted for them; I would happily take the centrists)
*Create new RP thread
*Have players negotiate until coalitions are formed
*????
*Profit!

You would probably want to give each player a slightly more detailed "character sheet" representing his party, and maybe lump some of the smaller, similar parties together. If you go for it, you should probably man the BP yourself. Whadda ya think?

That's a great idea, I'll do that in the next elections that will be in 5 weeks. Unless the coalition/opposition collapses or something and we need early elections

[Conscentia]

Crazy idea:
*Keep the elections results by seats/party
*Ret-con the coalitions
*Find an NS player to represent each party (preferably one who voted for them; I would happily take the centrists)
*Create new RP thread
*Have players negotiate until coalitions are formed
*????
*Profit!

You would probably want to give each player a slightly more detailed "character sheet" representing his party, and maybe lump some of the smaller, similar parties together. If you go for it, you should probably man the BP yourself. Whadda ya think?

The only centrists on the list of parties in Hippostania during this election is the SDP.

@Hippostania: Your next election is in 5 weeks?! That's a bit soon. How does a government in your country ever get anything done?

[Hippostania]

Crazy idea:
*Keep the elections results by seats/party
*Ret-con the coalitions
*Find an NS player to represent each party (preferably one who voted for them; I would happily take the centrists)
*Create new RP thread
*Have players negotiate until coalitions are formed
*????
*Profit!

You would probably want to give each player a slightly more detailed "character sheet" representing his party, and maybe lump some of the smaller, similar parties together. If you go for it, you should probably man the BP yourself. Whadda ya think?

The only centrists on the list of parties in Hippostania during this election is the SDP.

@Hippostania: Your next election is in 5 weeks?! That's a bit soon. How does a government in your country ever get anything done?

Elections are every 5 years. That's 5 weeks in NS time =D

[Conscentia]

The only centrists on the list of parties in Hippostania during this election is the SDP.

@Hippostania: Your next election is in 5 weeks?! That's a bit soon. How does a government in your country ever get anything done?

Elections are every 5 years. That's 5 weeks in NS time =D

((So do you reset the year every two elections or something? Or did you start in the yr 1900? At this rate you'll be in future tech very very soon.))

[Mount Shavano]

The only centrists on the list of parties in Hippostania during this election is the SDP.

@Hippostania: Your next election is in 5 weeks?! That's a bit soon. How does a government in your country ever get anything done?

I was, of course, referring to the party entitled "Center Party".

[Hippostania]

Elections are every 5 years. That's 5 weeks in NS time =D

((So do you reset the year every two elections or something? Or did you start in the yr 1900? At this rate you'll be in future tech very very soon.))

I use this pretty weird time scale, years pass but nothing new is invented. Sounds weird, but it works.

[Zannania]

I am very pleased with the results, I think you have a good majority with a strong opposition, and hopefully a lot will get done this session.

OOC: How do you make that chart with the dots?? I need to know!!

[Vecherd]

I am very pleased with the results, I think you have a good majority with a strong opposition, and hopefully a lot will get done this session.

OOC: How do you make that chart with the dots?? I need to know!!

OOC: http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform

[Zannania]

I am very pleased with the results, I think you have a good majority with a strong opposition, and hopefully a lot will get done this session.

OOC: How do you make that chart with the dots?? I need to know!!

OOC: http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform

No I'm talking about this chart:

[Calmerica]

The islands wish to congradulate Hippostanian on their new parliament!

(Chants of "HPDL" ring in the background)

[Hippostania]

I am very pleased with the results, I think you have a good majority with a strong opposition, and hopefully a lot will get done this session.

OOC: How do you make that chart with the dots?? I need to know!!

Nothing fancy, I just took this and re-colored the dots

[Vecherd]

OOC: http://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart.php?showform

No I'm talking about this chart:

MS Paint is a great way to start.

[Herrebrugh]

Herrebrugh uit haar bezorgdheid voor de zoveelste keer. Het volk heeft gesproken door de SDP maar liefst 59 nieuwe zetels te geven, en door de SDP de grootste partij te maken. Alleen heeft democratie niet gezegevierd. In tegendeel. De Hippostaniaansche regering bestaat uit autoritaire partijen die het volk de mond snoeren. Wij zijn tégen deze regering. Het volk heeft gesproken maar de regering heeft niet geluisterd. Schande.

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Herrebrugh once again expresses it's concern. The people has spoken by giving the SDP 59 new seats, and thereby making it the largest party. But democracy hasn't prevailed. On the contrary. The Hippostanian government is made up of authoritarian parties that deny the people the right to proper democracy. We are against this government. The people has spoken but the government hasn't listened. It's a disgrace!