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Poll ended at Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:32 am

Bourgeois Party
21
20%
Center Party
4
4%
Green Alliance
4
4%
Hipponian People's Democratic League
5
5%
Hippostania First
3
3%
Liberal Democratic Progressive Party
11
11%
National Democratic Party
8
8%
Sermoan Federal Party of Hippostania
1
1%
Social Democratic Party
39
38%
United Liberal Alliance
8
8%
 
Total votes : 104

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Hippostanian Parliamentary Elections [CLOSED]

Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:32 am

Results are in!


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Social conservatism, nationalism
NDP is often called a populist right-wing party. Its members are extremely nationalist anti anti-reformist. They oppose foreign influence on Hippostania and support a strong army and patriotism

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Libertarianism
Bourgeois Party, as the name says, is the party of the rich. BP supports low tax rates and opposes state-run healthcare etc. On civil rights however, the party is quite liberal

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Market liberalism, social liberalism
LDPP is a classical liberal party that supports civil and political rights. According to LDPP, the right to free trade is a human right. They're not as conservative as the BP

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Social conservatism, social democracy
Often called ''Opposite-version of NDP'', HPDL is a populist left-wing party that supports social democracy and social conservatism

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Liberal conservatism
In many aspects, HF is quite similar to LDPP. HF is however a bit more socially conservative and doesn't support regional integration as much as LDPP does.

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Social liberalism, federalism
SFPH supports federalism and Sermoan (the region where Hippostania is located) integration

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Green politics, green liberalism
Even though GA is officially a ''green'' party, enviromental protection doesn't play a strong role in the GA.

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Centrism, conservatism, localism
CP is a fairly conservative agrarian party that doesn't have a clearly defined ideology, aside from ''COUNTRYSIDE > CITY''

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Social liberalism, centrism
ULA is often called the most socially liberal party in Hippostania. Even though its members are divided in the economic policy, they are united by their strong social liberal ideologies. ULA the only party in Hippostania that supports the removal of prohibition on alcohol.

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Social democracy
The name says it all. SDP is a classic social democratic party

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Happy voting, choose wisely!

Also, I apologize that this post is riddled with grammatical errors, I'll try to fix most of them.
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Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby 21-06-11 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:48 am

ULA o/
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:23 am

Conscentia wrote:Why are all your parties right wing? Even the ones that claim to be left wing? Something is seriously wrong in Hippostania.

''Freer the market, freer the people'' is what most Hippostanians believe. Left-wing parties aren't very popular here, state intervention would be considered dictatorial.
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:40 am

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Why are all your parties right wing? Even the ones that claim to be left wing? Something is seriously wrong in Hippostania.

''Freer the market, freer the people'' is what most Hippostanians believe. Left-wing parties aren't very popular here, state intervention would be considered dictatorial.


Ever heard of Ricardian socialism? Obviously not. Even your centrist party is right wing.

Don't your schools teach 'Politics & Business'?
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Postby Koniggratzer » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:52 am

My vote is for NDP.
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:01 am

Conscentia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:''Freer the market, freer the people'' is what most Hippostanians believe. Left-wing parties aren't very popular here, state intervention would be considered dictatorial.


Ever heard of Ricardian socialism? Obviously not. Even your centrist party is right wing.

Don't your schools teach 'Politics & Business'?

''Ricardian socialism refers to a branch of socialist economic thought based upon the work of economist David Ricardo. The Ricardian socialists reasoned that the free-market was the route to socialism, and that rent, profit and interest were not natural outgrowths of the free-market. The central beliefs of Ricardian socialism are that all exchange value is created from labor, and that labor is entitled to all it produces.''
Sounds quite socialist. Hippostanians don't like that

And yes, our schools do teach ''Politics & Business''. That is why the right-wing parties are so popular, people know how the left-wing parties would just screw them and take their money and liberty.
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Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:06 am

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Ever heard of Ricardian socialism? Obviously not. Even your centrist party is right wing.

Don't your schools teach 'Politics & Business'?

''Ricardian socialism refers to a branch of socialist economic thought based upon the work of economist David Ricardo. The Ricardian socialists reasoned that the free-market was the route to socialism, and that rent, profit and interest were not natural outgrowths of the free-market. The central beliefs of Ricardian socialism are that all exchange value is created from labor, and that labor is entitled to all it produces.''
Sounds quite socialist. Hippostanians don't like that

And yes, our schools do teach ''Politics & Business''. That is why the right-wing parties are so popular, people know how the left-wing parties would just screw them and take their money and liberty.


Of-coarse it sounds socialist, it's because it is socialist.
What's wrong with socialism? The point of telling you about Ricardian Socialism is to show you that the free market and socialism are compatible, so you argument is flawed.

Clearly your education system is flawed and bias. [OOC: Did you just make that up after you heard that Conscientia had PB lessons in it's schools?]

Also, I know the election isn't over yet but, your most leftist party is wining...clearly what you government thinks it's people think is wrong.
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:09 am

Conscentia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:''Ricardian socialism refers to a branch of socialist economic thought based upon the work of economist David Ricardo. The Ricardian socialists reasoned that the free-market was the route to socialism, and that rent, profit and interest were not natural outgrowths of the free-market. The central beliefs of Ricardian socialism are that all exchange value is created from labor, and that labor is entitled to all it produces.''
Sounds quite socialist. Hippostanians don't like that

And yes, our schools do teach ''Politics & Business''. That is why the right-wing parties are so popular, people know how the left-wing parties would just screw them and take their money and liberty.


Of-coarse it sounds socialist - it is socialism.
What's wrong with socialism? The point of telling you about Ricardian Socialism is to show you that the free market and socialism are compatible, so you argument is flawed.

Clearly your education system is flawed. [OOC: Did you just make that up after you heard that my country have PB lessons in schools?]

As I told you, ''freer the market, freer the people'' describes the mindset of most Hippostanians. Socialism is of course against that, and that is why Hippostanians dislike socialism. And our education system is not flawed, it's one of the best in the region
OOC: No, I didn't. It's not called Politics and Business though, it's called ''Civic Studies''
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Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Fiddlegreen Farms » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:12 am

Social Democratic Party! :)
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Postby Urmanian » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:14 am

The Center Party has the ponies' support. Because COUNTRYSIDE > CITY
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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:17 am

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
Of-coarse it sounds socialist - it is socialism.
What's wrong with socialism? The point of telling you about Ricardian Socialism is to show you that the free market and socialism are compatible, so you argument is flawed.

Clearly your education system is flawed. [OOC: Did you just make that up after you heard that my country have PB lessons in schools?]

As I told you, ''freer the market, freer the people'' describes the mindset of most Hippostanians. Socialism is of course against that, and that is why Hippostanians dislike socialism. And our education system is not flawed, it's one of the best in the region
OOC: No, I didn't. It's not called Politics and Business though, it's called ''Civic Studies''


And why do you assume socialism is against the market when I just gave you a clear example of a form of socialism advocating a free market?

Well then your education system is bias.

OOC: Civic Studies? That means studies relating to cities and towns; esp. how they are administrated/governed. They name seems unrelated to the subject.

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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:21 am

The Vecherdian government supports the Bourgeois Party to the fullest, as we find Freedom some of the most important aspects of life, we also hope that the election will run smooth and democratically.
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:24 am

Conscentia wrote:
Hippostania wrote:As I told you, ''freer the market, freer the people'' describes the mindset of most Hippostanians. Socialism is of course against that, and that is why Hippostanians dislike socialism. And our education system is not flawed, it's one of the best in the region
OOC: No, I didn't. It's not called Politics and Business though, it's called ''Civic Studies''


And why do you assume socialism is against the market when I just gave you a clear example of a form of socialism advocating a free market?

Well then your education system is bias.

OOC: Civic Studies? That means studies relating to cities and towns; esp. how they are administrated/governed. They name seems unrelated to the subject.

Socialism in its all forms is about restricting the market, and that is why Hippostanians don't like socialism. If some form of socialism supports free markets, why call it socialism?

OOC: Ignore the meaning. In Finland, there is a similar subject at schools called ''yhteiskuntaoppi'', and civic studies is a direct translation of that. A shitty translation, I admit, but oh well :D
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:40 am

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:
And why do you assume socialism is against the market when I just gave you a clear example of a form of socialism advocating a free market?

Well then your education system is bias.

OOC: Civic Studies? That means studies relating to cities and towns; esp. how they are administrated/governed. They name seems unrelated to the subject.

Socialism in its all forms is about restricting the market, and that is why Hippostanians don't like socialism. If some form of socialism supports free markets, why call it socialism?


...Because it is socialism. Socialism is not about restricting the market.

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Postby Fonteveille » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:43 am

The Kingdom of Fonteveille supports the Hipponian People's Democratic League. However, we must express our dismay at the lack of leftist parties, even the most liberal of your parties only falls on the center of the left/right divide. We realize that leftist policies may be unpopular in your nation, however we find it very hard to believe not so much as one liberal party is able to form out of the people of Hippostania.

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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:00 am

Fonteveille wrote:The Kingdom of Fonteveille supports the Hipponian People's Democratic League. However, we must express our dismay at the lack of leftist parties, even the most liberal of your parties only falls on the center of the left/right divide. We realize that leftist policies may be unpopular in your nation, however we find it very hard to believe not so much as one liberal party is able to form out of the people of Hippostania.

There are plenty of liberal parties, but not many leftist parties. There are leftists organizations that call themselves parties such as ''Hippostanian Left Alliance'' and ''Communist Party of Hippostania''. However, they never get enough supporters to be classified as a party, so they can't participate in the elections.
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Oiseaui » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:44 am

Ballot cast for the Liberal Democratic Progressive Party.

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Postby Zannania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:47 pm

Zannania's people were polled recently to see which Hippostanian political party they identify with/like the most, and there is a tie between the BP and the LDPP. The monarchy, however, has thrown their support behind the BP, and with the monarchy's popularity being at an all-time high, Zannania has decided to publicly support the Bourgeois Party.
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Postby Fjeld » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:15 pm

The government of the CUF supports the SDP because there are no better alternatives available.
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:46 pm

Conscentia wrote:We hope that if your only centrist party, the social democratic party, is elected, it shall open the door to leftist parties.

We don't need another party ''to open doors'' to other parties. I think you're underestimating Hippostanians. What if they do not want a socialist goverment? To participate in elections in Hippostania, an organization has to get 50 000 supporter cards so it can be classified as a political party and participate in elections. Socialist parties have never gained more than 10 000.
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Fonteveille » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:49 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:We hope that if your only centrist party, the social democratic party, is elected, it shall open the door to leftist parties.

We don't need another party ''to open doors'' to other parties. I think you're underestimating Hippostanians. What if they do not want a socialist goverment? To participate in elections in Hippostania, an organization has to get 50 000 supporter cards so it can be classified as a political party and participate in elections. Socialist parties have never gained more than 10 000.



If you had nationwide party-proportional representation like us, those 10,000 people would at least be represented in your legislature by a few seats.

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Postby Hippostania » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:53 pm

Fonteveille wrote:
Hippostania wrote:We don't need another party ''to open doors'' to other parties. I think you're underestimating Hippostanians. What if they do not want a socialist goverment? To participate in elections in Hippostania, an organization has to get 50 000 supporter cards so it can be classified as a political party and participate in elections. Socialist parties have never gained more than 10 000.



If you had nationwide party-proportional representation like us, those 10,000 people would at least be represented in your legislature by a few seats.

Hippostania has a population of 2,16 billion people and there are only 200 seats in the parliament. To get one seat, your party has to get around ~15 million votes, since about 75% of the population votes in the elections
Factbook - New Embassy Program
Economic Right: 10.00 - Social Authoritarian: 2.87 - Foreign Policy Neoconservative: 9.54 - Cultural Liberal: -1.14
For: market liberalism, capitalism, eurofederalism, neoconservatism, British unionism, atlanticism, LGB rights, abortion rights, Greater Israel, Pan-Western federalism, NATO, USA, EU
Against: communism, socialism, anarchism, eurosceptism, agrarianism, Swiss/Irish/Scottish/Welsh independence, cultural relativism, all things Russian, aboriginal/native American special rights

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:57 pm

Hippostania wrote:
Fonteveille wrote:

If you had nationwide party-proportional representation like us, those 10,000 people would at least be represented in your legislature by a few seats.

Hippostania has a population of 2,16 billion people and there are only 200 seats in the parliament. To get one seat, your party has to get around ~15 million votes, since about 75% of the population votes in the elections


Well that's just stupid!

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