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Imeriata
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Postby Imeriata » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:32 pm

It is illegal and might result in public whipping and some time in the stock.
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Omensa
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Postby Omensa » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:39 pm

Only from places like I-Tunes is it legal

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Postby YellowApple » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:17 pm

In accordance with YellowApple's Free Information Exchange Policy, there is no legal punishment for the free distribution of any electronic data. In Trololopolis in particular, it is actually illegal to restrict the share of any work of art, as all art is to be made available to anyone and everyone.

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Postby Cadonica » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:09 pm

"Illegal downloading" is unknown term. All downloading is legal. It's illegal to sell downloaded material, though.
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Postby The Erusean Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:53 pm

Are all music downloads in your nation legal or are the websites where the artists don't get any profit illegal?

Music downloads are legal but when your don't pay for it, you will be sought and brought to Justice by the Government. As the Government and the Music Industry has come together to preserve their profits and in return, President Hamilton gets kickbacks.
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Postby Arkinesia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:19 am

The Confederate States only has copyright laws protecting against infringement for resale, as infringement laws on personal use are nothing short of barbaric.
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Postby Beaverriver » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:08 am

if the distributor is making a profit and is not giving their profit to the artist is when it's illegal.

Other then that law it's legal to download songs from the internet in Beaverriver.
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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:13 am

Copyright infringement is illegal, and sporadically enforced with large fines or minor prison sentences.
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Postby YaoiFangirlLand » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:17 am

The Internet in our nation is highly edited, menaing that illegal sites are not accessible. However, we do have public downloading stations as well.
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Voek
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Postby Voek » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:25 am

Only Voekan websites are allowed in Voek(with the exception of a few foreign online retail stores), and to create a website you have to pay a rather large sum of money to the Government, and this usually stops all illegal download websites. Anyway the Internet is only available to about 35% of Voek, due to roughly 55% of the population live in areas controlled by Islamic rebels.
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Nouseum
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Postby Nouseum » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:33 am

My people believe in an equal society for all intelligible peoples and those with such potential, we do not enforce the unnecessary act of criminalizing music but instead, allow the music industry to give away music without profit with copyright laws behind them. As such, the government awards musical industries with strong emphasis on meaning, flow of tune, and the overall artistic value. Allowing the more creative industries to take incentive into becoming integral parts of Nousic culture.
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The Kangaroo Republic
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Postby The Kangaroo Republic » Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:34 am

Imeriata wrote:It is illegal and might result in public whipping and some time in the stock.

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FKR download policies are a bit strange in the sense that it's not illegal to download any music. However, uploading music that is copyright-protected is a different story.
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Central Lothian
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Postby Central Lothian » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:03 pm

Strictly speaking, it's illegal to change the format of music - e.g. ripping a track from a CD into MP3 format. However, it's only currently applied to those who download illegally - although what would happen to someone found guilty is unknown (we've never charged anybody for it yet).
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Postby Conscentia » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:28 pm

Legal. (Provided you don't try and claim it as your own work.) It is legal because copying is not stealing, and copying is legal, whilst stealing is not. Downloading is a form of copying, hence not illegal.

We have no copyright or trademark laws. We also do not have patent laws.
Instead with have Authorship Certificates. They are basically legal documents which label you are the inventor/author of an idea or invention or intellectual work. Authorship Certificates allow you to prove that you invented/authored a specific idea, design, invention etc. This allows you to catch thieves who claim your work as their own.

Music downloading is not stealing, it is copying. We have no problem with that.
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Postby Sterlingport » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:56 pm

Downloading music from a site which does not give a share of profits to the artist is technically considered theft, however the government has more pressing issues of crime to attend to.

Prosecutions for music theft are extremely rare, and usually only pursued if the owner of the illegal site can be charged.
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Greater Rhodes
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Postby Greater Rhodes » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:25 pm

Although there is still a respectable market for cassettes, records, and CDs, (usually for the nostalgic or music collectors, the latter especially), the overwhelming majority of people choose to download music. While there are a large number of legal sites where one can do this, by paying a small fee or otherwise, there are also illegal sites which operate without specific consent of those holding a copyright. Taking down these sites isn't a huge government issue although a number of the larger ones have been removed in the past, and just downloading from these sites isn't illegal in itself; further distributing the downloaded music for a profit is.
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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:35 pm

Greater Rhodes wrote:Although there is still a respectable market for cassettes, records, and CDs, (usually for the nostalgic or music collectors, the latter especially), the overwhelming majority of people choose to download music. While there are a large number of legal sites where one can do this, by paying a small fee or otherwise, there are also illegal sites which operate without specific consent of those holding a copyright. Taking down these sites isn't a huge government issue although a number of the larger ones have been removed in the past, and just downloading from these sites isn't illegal in itself; further distributing the downloaded music for a profit is.


What about distributing them for no profit?
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Postby Cameroi » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:40 pm

there is no commercial music industry in cameroi to whine about not being able to make everything have to begin and end with symbolic value. cameroi, on the other paw, don't tend to claim other people's creative work as their own either. so there's no problem either way. if anyone didn't want their work to be shared around, which would be very un-cameroi-like for them not to, to begin with, they wouldn't post it in the furst place.
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Vecherd
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Postby Vecherd » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:53 pm

Since illegal copying has boomed artist have started websites where they put out all their songs for free available for all to enjoy, but for every 1 000 person that visit their page, the music companies give the artist a certain amount of money.

It is illegal to download free music from other pages than the artists webpages but not enforced.
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Seperate Vermont
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:54 pm

Maraque wrote:Since "the CD" is an obsolete form of media no longer used in Tsvarchi, downloading is the only option. Now, there are official retail digital stores, and downloading from them is legal. Unofficial digital stores which offer music for free without the media owner's consent is illegal and such sites are taken down daily by authorities.

Actually downloading illegal music isn't illegal. Only the distributor is conducting an illegal operation.

Nailed it, for us too. Dowloading an oening illegal mudic are not specifically illegal here, however illegally distributing/selling is illegal, at the decision of the producers or any claimants to pursue, usually based on damages done.
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Ziggystan
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Postby Ziggystan » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:05 pm

Ziggystan places value on good business strategy; thus downloading music for free rather than paying for it is seen as merely having good financial sense, and the blame falls on the music company for not having tighter security rather than on the downloader.

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Free Pangea
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Postby Free Pangea » Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:56 pm

The only copyright in Free Pangea is international. You can get free music legally.
Even if you did break international copyright you probably wouldn't get in trouble due to privacy laws.
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Postby Vorond » Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:19 pm

With directive 1337 "Freedom of information/culture" of 1996, all copyright was abolished in the Free Territory of Vorond. Section IV of said directive specifies that the Free Territory will not enforce foreign laws regarding the download and distribution of music. In 2001 the directive was ratified by public referendum, bringing it into the status of "People's Law", meaning that to change it another referendum would be required (as opposed to a directive of the supreme assembly).
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Postby Southwest Indiana » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:27 am

Swilatia wrote:It is offcially illegal, but pretty much every-one does it anyway, and no-one ever gets punished for it.


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