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by West-Dimonia » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:35 am
Misthurst wrote:Izzyshipper wrote:Subjects also also pay for education they might not use, roads they may not drive on, benefits they may not claim. To expect every citizen to only pay what they recieve is ridiculous, and for the wealthy to get a tax break to prevent the poor from recieving healthcare is not something we do.
Nobody gets a tax break here, rich or otherwise, and nobody is punished for daring to be a success. Everybody pays 6% yearly. Let me quote a statement we made earlier, hmm?Misthurst wrote:Most people in Misthurst quite enjoy the current system, whereby instead of being legally required to pay in taxes to support a mediocre "universal healthcare" scheme/scam, it is possible here to have access to first rate or nearly first rate service when you need it, because the government takes the absolute minimum needed, and otherwise leaves your paycheck alone.
Rather than force everybody to pay in to and use second-rate care just so we may feel like we're doing something, we let people keep enough of what they earn to be able to pay for first rate medical care. We may then use what money they permit us to have to provide those services which they can not reliably provide by themselves, as a government is meant to do.

by Great Nepal » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:48 am
West-Dimonia wrote:Look, that's all fine and good if you earn enough to be able to afford proper healthcare, but some people just can't afford it. Not everyone is lucky enough to make that much money, even with your low tax rate. Should they just be left to die if they fall ill?
Secondly, if someone falls seriously ill outside of his own doing, should he have to pay the thousands of dollars it costs to keep him alive all by himself and become extremely poor as well? Not in a society with even the slightest bit of compassion, in my opinion.
Thirdly, universal healthcare is not 'mediocre'; because everyone pitches in, it gets a lot more money than private healthcare, and it doesn't operate out of the principle of making a profit. If private healthcare would be as good as universal healthcare, it would be too expensive for most of the population to be able to afford.

by Morrdh » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:49 am
West-Dimonia wrote:Thirdly, universal healthcare is not 'mediocre'; because everyone pitches in, it gets a lot more money than private healthcare, and it doesn't operate out of the principle of making a profit. If private healthcare would be as good as universal healthcare, it would be too expensive for most of the population to be able to afford.

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