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New Lusitaniagrad
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Postby New Lusitaniagrad » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:20 am

Do we look like filthy Marxists?

No.
Dammed Marxists running about buggering sheep, and other such mischief. We really must do something about that.
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Beldonia
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Postby Beldonia » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:20 am

Fuck no.

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Tierra Prime
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Postby Tierra Prime » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:35 am

Yes, the Empire has universal healthcare.

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Yasashii
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Founded: Oct 09, 2009
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Postby Yasashii » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:32 am

Healthcare in Yasashii is a universal, multi-payer system and private health options exist. Private options tend to be more expensive than public options and many insurance plans will not cover costs to the same degree when private options are chosen, though wait times tend to be lower. The system is, overall, 75% government funded and 25% privately funded.

Enrolment in a health insurance plan is compulsory for all citizens; public and private insurance options exist. The government bears the brunt of the costs - 75% of any public plan, 5% of private plans. Employers must pay into each employee's plan under the Employee Health Insurance system, matching employee contributions (10%-15% of plan costs) whereas students, the unemployed, the elderly, and the disabled are covered by the National Health Insurance system. Private health insurance plans are available and tend to be more flexible in terms of costs and coverage and tend to go beyond government plans, though will fall under either the EHI or NHI system. Roughly 85% of residents choose the basic public EHI and NHI plans over private options.

Payment is usually 2%-4% of any individual's annual income under EHI, depending on the plan chosen. Those eligible for NHI will pay into NHI plans either through their institute of education, employment insurance scheme, pension scheme, or disability payment/management scheme. Those on welfare* have NHI costs covered through either the welfare system or, if applicable, employment insurance schemes. Low-wage workers - typically teenagers and young adults - will have their premiums capped. Children to the age of 18 are covered by their parents' plans and family plans exist.

The costs of prescription medication may be partially covered by health insurance plans and coverage varies plan by plan with basic public plans covering 70% of costs. Medicines used in the treatment of life-threatening or inhibiting conditions or diseases are typically covered by the government, i.e. chemo therapy medication, painkillers and sedatives before and after operations, etc. Medical vaccines are optional, but those who refuse vaccinations will face higher insurance premiums.

Roughly 87% seek the public system whereas 13% use the private system. In times where a patient using a public facility is referred to a private facility for any given reason, the public system will reimburse the patient for extra costs thus incurred. The need for this is exceedingly rare and only tends to occur when new technologies have not yet been made available in the area or when extra capacity is needed in any given area in times of emergency.

At no point will someone be refused care. Those who do not have insurance, despite the legal requirement, must enter a payment plan to cover the costs of the medical treatment received.

* See Welfare in Yasashii for supplementary information.
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Helghast empire
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Founded: Oct 14, 2009
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Postby Helghast empire » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:49 am

We have a Universal Collective healthcare system for the benefit of the people, it's doesn't matter if we sound like communists, our people matter more then the image of our nation.
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:37 am

Whiskey Hill wrote:As every civilized nation does, yes.

A civilized country forces its citizens to pay for same service twice?
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Retoa
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Founded: Apr 11, 2011
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Postby Retoa » Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:53 am

Yes, since 1942 to be precise, but privately owned healthcare companies are legal
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Misthurst
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Founded: Mar 19, 2011
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Misthurst » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:59 am

Hypparchia wrote:A fair 40% is formed by taxes, but they go for other purposes. Our people aren't exactly fat, neither dumb. They could be happy, but I can never know. :roll:


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Tekcirb
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Founded: Dec 23, 2010
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Postby Tekcirb » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:02 pm

Yes , private health care is banned

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Izzyshipper
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Postby Izzyshipper » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:04 pm

Of course, we d are a developed country after all, with a civilized society.
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Misthurst
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Postby Misthurst » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:05 pm

Izzyshipper wrote:Of course, we d are a developed country after all, with a civilized society.


We always laugh when some nation gets snobbish about the issue. As though forcing everybody to pay for a system they may not even want to use is proper, and civilized.
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Saurisisia
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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:06 pm

Misthurst wrote:
Izzyshipper wrote:Of course, we d are a developed country after all, with a civilized society.


We always laugh when some nation gets snobbish about the issue. As though forcing everybody to pay for a system they may not even want to use is proper, and civilized.

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Gaiso
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Postby Gaiso » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:06 pm

The entire healthcare system, from the pharmaceuticals, to insurance, to hospitals and clinics are government run and free to all in Gaiso.

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The Planet Carpathia
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Postby The Planet Carpathia » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:07 pm

Universal, single payer. Granted, there isn't any other option, there only being one medicentre and all that.
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Izzyshipper
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Postby Izzyshipper » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:18 pm

Misthurst wrote:
Izzyshipper wrote:Of course, we d are a developed country after all, with a civilized society.


We always laugh when some nation gets snobbish about the issue. As though forcing everybody to pay for a system they may not even want to use is proper, and civilized.


Subjects also also pay for education they might not use, roads they may not drive on, benefits they may not claim. To expect every citizen to only pay what they recieve is ridiculous, and for the wealthy to get a tax break to prevent the poor from recieving healthcare is not something we do.
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Misthurst
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Postby Misthurst » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:21 pm

Izzyshipper wrote:Subjects also also pay for education they might not use, roads they may not drive on, benefits they may not claim. To expect every citizen to only pay what they recieve is ridiculous, and for the wealthy to get a tax break to prevent the poor from recieving healthcare is not something we do.


Nobody gets a tax break here, rich or otherwise, and nobody is punished for daring to be a success. Everybody pays 6% yearly. Let me quote a statement we made earlier, hmm?

Misthurst wrote:Most people in Misthurst quite enjoy the current system, whereby instead of being legally required to pay in taxes to support a mediocre "universal healthcare" scheme/scam, it is possible here to have access to first rate or nearly first rate service when you need it, because the government takes the absolute minimum needed, and otherwise leaves your paycheck alone.


Rather than force everybody to pay in to and use second-rate care just so we may feel like we're doing something, we let people keep enough of what they earn to be able to pay for first rate medical care. We may then use what money they permit us to have to provide those services which they can not reliably provide by themselves, as a government is meant to do.
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Central Lothian
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Postby Central Lothian » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:23 pm

Simple answer - Yes.
Long answer - Yes, we do. Although people are allowed private healthcare if they so desire.
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Sagatagan
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Postby Sagatagan » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:40 pm

Hell to the yizzle!
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:42 pm

Izzyshipper wrote:
Misthurst wrote:
We always laugh when some nation gets snobbish about the issue. As though forcing everybody to pay for a system they may not even want to use is proper, and civilized.


Subjects also also pay for education they might not use,

Not here, they dont.

roads they may not drive on,

Because they are likely to drive on it in future and goods they need is likely to need that road in one part or another.

benefits they may not claim.

Not here, they dont.

for the wealthy to get a tax break to prevent the poor from recieving healthcare is not something we do.

Indeed, everyone should get a choice on which healthcare they want and have right not to pay twice for one service.
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Postby Maraque » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:43 pm

Izzyshipper wrote:Subjects also also pay for education they might not use, roads they may not drive on, benefits they may not claim. To expect every citizen to only pay what they recieve is ridiculous, and for the wealthy to get a tax break to prevent the poor from recieving healthcare is not something we do.
We applaud our Izzyerian colleagues and wholeheartedly agree.

Tsvarchivans are quite content with their universal first rate care, and are also quite happy with where their taxes are being spent. Those few who are not have every right to be unhappy, but they also chose to live here in the first place, so its either take it or leave it. They choose to take it.

We're not interesting in debating this issue, we're just stating our government and people's stance on this issue.
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Emmousia
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Postby Emmousia » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:59 pm

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Saurisisia
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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:05 pm

Misthurst wrote:
Izzyshipper wrote:Subjects also also pay for education they might not use, roads they may not drive on, benefits they may not claim. To expect every citizen to only pay what they recieve is ridiculous, and for the wealthy to get a tax break to prevent the poor from recieving healthcare is not something we do.


Nobody gets a tax break here, rich or otherwise, and nobody is punished for daring to be a success. Everybody pays 6% yearly. Let me quote a statement we made earlier, hmm?

Misthurst wrote:Most people in Misthurst quite enjoy the current system, whereby instead of being legally required to pay in taxes to support a mediocre "universal healthcare" scheme/scam, it is possible here to have access to first rate or nearly first rate service when you need it, because the government takes the absolute minimum needed, and otherwise leaves your paycheck alone.


Rather than force everybody to pay in to and use second-rate care just so we may feel like we're doing something, we let people keep enough of what they earn to be able to pay for first rate medical care. We may then use what money they permit us to have to provide those services which they can not reliably provide by themselves, as a government is meant to do.

We could not agree with Misthurst anymore.
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Iglesian Archipelago
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Postby Iglesian Archipelago » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:07 pm

Yes, we have universal healthcare in this country.

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Camerania
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Postby Camerania » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:10 pm

In Camerania, all necessities are provided for free by the government, including healthcare.

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Venetoland
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We have means tested health-care

Postby Venetoland » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:10 pm

If your income is under a certain threshhold (in Venetoland it is 2x poverty) you get fully subsidized insurance. If not, you must by private insurance.
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