Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. IV) The Proper Un

[Daenya]

Weight: 6.2kg Unloaded, No scope
Barrel Length: 508 mm
Cartridge: .308 Winchester
Action, Gas operated rotating bolt, semi automatic
Effective Range: 800-850m
Feed system: 20 round, box magazine
Sights: Detachable optics. Shown with 6x48 ACOG optic.
Velocity: 820m/s

Is that okay for a marksman rifle?

[Emperor_Joe]

Our main assult rifle is the E11

It is a highly versatile weapon but we scale up and down as needed for individual company and squad needs.

Others include

the DLT-20A blaster rifle for the long fight

and so.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

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Weight: 6.2kg Unloaded, No scope
Barrel Length: 508 mm
Cartridge: .308 Winchester
Action, Gas operated rotating bolt, semi automatic
Effective Range: 800-850m
Feed system: 20 round, box magazine
Sights: Detachable optics. Shown with 6x48 ACOG optic.
Velocity: 820m/s

Is that okay for a marksman rifle?

"Gas-operated rotating bolt" doesn't really tell us about the action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-operated_reloading

For reference - M4/M16 use direct impingement, but a round like .308 is probably going to want a long-stroke piston action.

[Galla-]

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Weight: 6.2kg Unloaded, No scope
Barrel Length: 508 mm
Cartridge: .308 Winchester
Action, Gas operated rotating bolt, semi automatic
Effective Range: 800-850m
Feed system: 20 round, box magazine
Sights: Detachable optics. Shown with 6x48 ACOG optic.
Velocity: 820m/s

Is that okay for a marksman rifle?

"Gas-operated rotating bolt" doesn't really tell us about the action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-operated_reloading

For reference - M4/M16 use direct impingement, but a round like .308 is probably going to want a long-stroke piston action.

DI would be better for a marksman/sniper rifle. It is usually more accurate than a gas piston, because you have less mass moving around during every shot to throw off your aim.

[Imperial DaiHan]

The boredom... it is overwhelming.

I want something to make.

[Pridwen]

The boredom... it is overwhelming.

I want something to make.

World War One era anti-tank rifle?

[Indeos]

The boredom... it is overwhelming.

I want something to make.

Well, you've still got that warhammer to make, if you're desperate.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

"Gas-operated rotating bolt" doesn't really tell us about the action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas-operated_reloading

For reference - M4/M16 use direct impingement, but a round like .308 is probably going to want a long-stroke piston action.

DI would be better for a marksman/sniper rifle. It is usually more accurate than a gas piston, because you have less mass moving around during every shot to throw off your aim.

I just have a personal dislike for DI.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

DI would be better for a marksman/sniper rifle. It is usually more accurate than a gas piston, because you have less mass moving around during every shot to throw off your aim.

I just have a personal dislike for DI.

Why?

It's a perfectly fine system. It tends to screw itself over by "sticking a blow dryer in its vagina and requiring constant relubing".

Anyways, the problem (one of) with the M4/M16 is not the DI system, as much as we're led to believe by Interweb myths. It's actually due to practically needing to run the rifle dripping wet, and the fact that the M4/M16's ejection port is not spring loaded. i.e. Once it's open, it stays open until you close it.

This tends to lead to a large amount of dirt and sand finding it's way into the hot, wet, lubed up receiver and turning the gun into a bolt action. There's receivers that fix this, though they're aftermarket and not standard issue in the US Army/USMC so you get a lot of novice riflemen bitching. Ofc, while I'm sure that wouldn't fix all the issues (the STANAG magazine leaves much to be desired, PMAGs are much more reliable, for ex.), it would fix a majority.

It's why DI rifles like the Hakim and MAS 49/56 are so reliable. Their ejection ports close by themselves.

[Milograd]

second gun lineart

first smg attempt

D:<

[Smrtna Kazna]

The I-1 carbine.
ARI Model-3. Often nicknamed the 'Buntovnik', or kicker, due to the high amounts of recoil felt when firing the carbine.

Any comments or criticisms are quite helpful.

[Ea90]

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first smg attempt

D:<

This is amazing

[Munathanura]

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second gun lineart

first smg attempt

D:<

That's looking good, although I'm not sure if the muzzle brake is necessary. What's it chambered in?

The I-1 carbine.
ARI Model-3. Often nicknamed the 'Buntovnik', or kicker, due to the high amounts of recoil felt when firing the carbine.

Any comments or criticisms are quite helpful.

That doesn't look too bad. The muzzle brake should probably reduce the recoil drastically, depending on what round you're firing.

[Crookfur]

The Royal Sabatinan Army is equipped with the Pindad SS2-V1.
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Why not just use an M16A2?

Really you have it backwards it should be why use the M16A2 when there are umpteen perfectly viable RL alternatives out there or perhaps more accuratly why use the M16 when the AR-18 exists.


Daenya: look fairly reasonable for an AR-10/SR-25 alike. only real things are that the stock could be doign witha bit of modification to make it line up with the bottom of the receiver a bit better, that you could do with stiking a gas bloc and tube on so that they show through the hand gaurd and possibly incorporating a muzzle devcie or using a heavier profile barrel.


Milograd : the receiver is far far too bulky esspecially in terms of height, the barrel line could be dropped a fair bit to help with this as could making the mag well more distinct.



In Other news The Bundeswehr have obviously been using PMG to design thier DMR, the G28:

http://www.abload.de/img/g28_kidt3.png

[Samozaryadnyastan]

You kid, but it would be easily possible in 0.7 PMG.

[Munathanura]

In Other news The Bundeswehr have obviously been using PMG to design thier DMR, the G28:

http://www.abload.de/img/g28_kidt3.png

The colours aren't quite fluro enough for it to be PMG. It's also missing the taped on bayonet.

[Wolohanistan]

A cheapo SMG made from steel pressings and spare TARA parts. Didn't think it deserved its own thread. Was inspired by reading about the Zaagi M91, the only LoL thing to come out of the breakup of Yugoslavia


Type Submachine Gun
Place of origin Kromyar
Service history
In service 1966-Present

Production history
Designer Talmur Arsenal
Designed 1966
Manufacturer Talmur Arsenal
Produced 1966 - Present
Number built Millions
Variants None atm lol
Specifications
Weight 3 KG unloaded
Length 852mm Unfolded, 646mm Folded
Barrel Length 220mm
Rifling 4 Grooves, Right Hand twist
Calibre 9x19 mm Parabelum
Action Straight Blowback
Rate of fire 600 RPM
Muzzle velocity 1247 ft/s
Feed system 32 round detachable magazines
Sights Adjustable aperture rear sight, Front post sight


History and Design

The TAMS was developed by Talmur Arsenals so supplement the TARA series as a weapon for members of the Armed forces who would be over-encumbered by a full sized rifle; Vehicle operators, officers and weapons crews. Some say the secondary motive behind its development was to squeeze more cash from the Kromyari Warhost. Talmur Arsenal denies these claims.
As the TARA project cost quite a sum of money to complete, in order to save money with the TAMS the design process was built around the use of pre-existing machinery and surplus parts from the TARA project. It was also argued that by using TARA parts, the familiarity would aid Kromyari troops in the use of this already simple weapon. Again, this is rumoured to be another money-grubbing lie.

Construction

The TAMS is constructed from inexpensive and surplus materials, making the manufacturing cost of each unit low. The majority of the weapon is made from stamped steel, with areas that face regular strain, such as the receiver and the magazine well, reinforced with strengthening ribs. The heat shield and the underfolding stock (borrowed from the TARAS) are also constructed from stamped steel. In an effort to increase reliability, the barrel is chrome lined to reduce the effects of fouling. The furniture is made from plum coloured polymer and borrows the pistol grip and the trigger guard from the TARA.

Operation
The TAMS uses a simple straight blowback system, where the bolt does not lock into the barrel and the breech is closed by the strength of the spring. When a round is fired, the force caused by the propellant gas pushes the now empty case and the bolt backwards. This then extracts the case and chambers a new bullet as the spring pushes the bolt back into position.

Features

The features of the TAMS were intentionally kept simple. It features an adjustable sight with a 100 metre and an optimistic 300 metre option. The charging handle, located on the top of the receiver is ambidextrous, although left handed users would be at a disadvantage using the push through safety/fire selector as taking the fire arm off safe requires the button to be pressed with the right-hand index finger. Two recommended locations are provided for the forward grip: A chequered surface on the furniture and the large magazine well, designed to eliminate feed problems caused by gripping the magazine. Although the "heat shield" can be used, it is not recommended as prolonged firing can cause it to reach high temperatures. The stock can be folded, reducing the overall length of the TAMS making it easier to store in confined spaces like vehicle cabins.

[Ea90]

Yanintovia's new service rifle is a 7.62 Russian BR called the AY-66 (Avtomat Ýnintovii). It uses a a modified AKM receiver, feeds from 20 (or 10) round mags and has a 565mm (SVD length) barrel. Thoughts?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Is it conventional or bullpup layout? Because a 24" barrel on a conventional BR is gonna be a tad lulzy (though obviously not impossible).

[Ea90]

Is it conventional or bullpup layout? Because a 24" barrel on a conventional BR is gonna be a tad lulzy (though obviously not impossible).

I was thinking conventional. It's actually a 22.2" barrel (from the SVDS, I just forgot to say). That's just slightly longer than an M14. I'm making it in PMG right now.

[Milograd]

Milograd : the receiver is far far too bulky esspecially in terms of height, the barrel line could be dropped a fair bit to help with this as could making the mag well more distinct.

Alright, I'll give that a shot. :D

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second gun lineart

first smg attempt

D:<

This is amazing

Thanks.

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This is rly nice art.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Is it conventional or bullpup layout? Because a 24" barrel on a conventional BR is gonna be a tad lulzy (though obviously not impossible).

I was thinking conventional. It's actually a 22.2" barrel (from the SVDS, I just forgot to say). That's just slightly longer than an M14. I'm making it in PMG right now.

Oh yeah, it's not actually all that long, I mean after all the M16 has a 20" barrel.

[Fischermann]

I heard of Russian Soldiers in Chechnya that attached SVD barrels to their AK-74's.

It was probably some sort of Special Forces/Marine guy, though.

[Rukovia]

[Milograd]

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@first and second pictures: that mag looks very loosely fit imo

It rly doesn't look right, I'd recommend you try drawing your guns on MS Paint as opposed to using PMG.