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Fischermann
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Postby Fischermann » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:37 pm

Munathanura wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I'm going off aesthetics, not performance. VBR PDW kinda looks like a chunk of metal.


Remember, I like the aesthetics of the Owen SMG. Chunks of metal look very good to me! :p


How does the Owen work anyway? I can see the cartridge falling out as you pull the charging handle.
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Munathanura
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Postby Munathanura » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:49 pm

Fischermann wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
Remember, I like the aesthetics of the Owen SMG. Chunks of metal look very good to me! :p


How does the Owen work anyway? I can see the cartridge falling out as you pull the charging handle.


Fortunately for you, I some photographs of it.

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Postby Costa Liber » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:42 am

our country uses aerosol cans filled with vx, guns are stupid.......
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Postby Munathanura » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:50 am

Costa Liber wrote:our country uses aerosol cans filled with vx, guns are stupid.......


And issuing aerosol cans filled with nerve gas to your troops isn't? What happens when their NBC suits are punctured by bullets fired from 300 metres away and one of their cans gets hit?
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:52 am

Munathanura wrote:
Fischermann wrote:
How does the Owen work anyway? I can see the cartridge falling out as you pull the charging handle.


Fortunately for you, I some photographs of it.



That's good. I looks like a side loading SMG I designed.

Which means a failure of an engineer like me can do some stuff too. Yay.
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Postby Munathanura » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:08 am

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That's good. I looks like a side loading SMG I designed.

Which means a failure of an engineer like me can do some stuff too. Yay.


You can't be too much of a failure then. :lol:
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Caninope wrote:OMG, FBI does it's jobs and uses search warrants to recover stolen property. The world is ending.

Welcome to America, where the authorities can be doing too much and too little at the same god damn time.
Tahar Joblis wrote:Your "heartfelt recommendation," i.e., baseless accusation of misogyny, is noted with all the respect that is due. Which corresponds to that due a $100 billion Zimbabwean banknote. :eyebrow:
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Fischermann
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:20 am

Munathanura wrote:
Fischermann wrote:
That's good. I looks like a side loading SMG I designed.

Which means a failure of an engineer like me can do some stuff too. Yay.


You can't be too much of a failure then. :lol:


What I don't understand is..

What if I pull the trigger before the bolt comes back? Wouldn't the gun crack because the ''bolt lock'' has been broken by the retracting bolt?
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Postby Munathanura » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:24 am

Fischermann wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
You can't be too much of a failure then. :lol:


What I don't understand is..

What if I pull the trigger before the bolt comes back? Wouldn't the gun crack because the ''bolt lock'' has been broken by the retracting bolt?


What bolt lock?
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Welcome to America, where the authorities can be doing too much and too little at the same god damn time.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:30 am

Risen Britannia wrote:(Image)
a gun im doing for Itailian Maifias
basically line art Knight's Armament Company PDW

Nice-looking AR-15 PDW. What's its actual designation?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:32 am

Risen Britannia wrote:
Imperial DaiHan wrote:
Did he tell you that I was the one who recommended you to him? It looks awesome, by the way.

not directly, but he mentioned your name so i guessed it was you

also updated:
Image

It does look amazing, but your barrel detail is off, because of perspective. The upper and lower rows of detailing on the barrel should be lower in height than the middle, because they curve around the barrel.
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:54 am

Munathanura wrote:
Fischermann wrote:
What I don't understand is..

What if I pull the trigger before the bolt comes back? Wouldn't the gun crack because the ''bolt lock'' has been broken by the retracting bolt?


What bolt lock?


The thing that keeps the bolt back. Was it called ''sear''?
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Postby Amastol » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:11 am

Fischermann wrote:What I don't understand is..

What if I pull the trigger before the bolt comes back? Wouldn't the gun crack because the ''bolt lock'' has been broken by the retracting bolt?
Yeah its called a sear, and if you pull the trigger the sear descends so if you pull the trigger while cocking the bolt, the sear is already lowered (though its designed to be forced down by the rearward movement of the bolt anyways). The Owen fires from an open bolt, and is automatic only, so the sear is designed to hold hold the bolt back or stop the bolt from traveling forward to stop its operation (upon releasing the trigger.) When the trigger is pulled, the trigger pushes up at the bottom of the sear which pivots withdrawing the upper section of the sear from the bolt recess and allowing the bolt to slam forward to chamber and fire a round.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:12 am

Costa Liber wrote:our country uses aerosol cans filled with vx, guns are stupid.......

Gas shell is a germ is a nuke. That aside, one need only pucture your hazmat suit and a VX canister, and it's a really nasty death coming up.

OP:

M4A1's and M16's are common assault rifles.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:30 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:not directly, but he mentioned your name so i guessed it was you

also updated:
(Image)

It does look amazing, but your barrel detail is off, because of perspective. The upper and lower rows of detailing on the barrel should be lower in height than the middle, because they curve around the barrel.

thanks. as for the barrel is this better
Image
Also what do you mean by "actual designation?" is that like M4, m16 , mk17?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:57 am

Not quite, because since it's a KAC PDW, I'm guessing it's not got a military service designation, which is what M4, M16, Mk17 are. What do KAC market it as, just "KAC PDW"?
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Fischermann
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:13 am

Image

Didn't receive much criticism on this one.
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Tryienne
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Postby Tryienne » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:18 am

My nation's primary military weapon Is the AK-47, without a doubt!!!
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Anemos Major
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Postby Anemos Major » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:20 am

Tryienne wrote:My nation's primary military weapon Is the AK-47, without a doubt!!!


Then it's probably the AKM.
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Postby Xendarr » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:20 am

This http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1522/1358656-m15vindicator_large.png
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Postby Ea90 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:21 am

Fischermann wrote:(Image)

Didn't receive much criticism on this one.

I like it
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Postby Ea90 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:58 am

Tryienne wrote:My nation's primary military weapon Is the AK-47, without a doubt!!!

*Sigh*
At least switch to the AKM; it is cheaper to produce, lighter, has better accuracy, and is just generally a better rifle. That's if you want to keep it AK. For weapons using 7.62x39mm, I would suggest either the TKB-517 or Type 81 as a service rifle and TKB-022 as a carbine. There are loads of others that give you much better performance than the AKM (and, therefore, the AK-47). However, of course, it's your choice.
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Postby Tryienne » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:02 pm

Ea90 wrote:
Tryienne wrote:My nation's primary military weapon Is the AK-47, without a doubt!!!

*Sigh*
At least switch to the AKM; it is cheaper to produce, lighter, has better accuracy, and is just generally a better rifle. That's if you want to keep it AK. For weapons using 7.62x39mm, I would suggest either the TKB-517 or Type 81 as a service rifle and TKB-022 as a carbine. There are loads of others that give you much better performance than the AKM (and, therefore, the AK-47). However, of course, it's your choice.


Okay, then I'll stick to the AKM and the Type 81 as service rifles, the TKB-022 as the carbine for the Elite troops, and the AK-47 as a ceremonial and milita weapon. Maybe your right with that!

http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pi ... 167042.jpg
Here's the weapon the Elite forces use!!
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Postby Dimoniquid » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:08 pm

Tryienne wrote:
Ea90 wrote:*Sigh*
At least switch to the AKM; it is cheaper to produce, lighter, has better accuracy, and is just generally a better rifle. That's if you want to keep it AK. For weapons using 7.62x39mm, I would suggest either the TKB-517 or Type 81 as a service rifle and TKB-022 as a carbine. There are loads of others that give you much better performance than the AKM (and, therefore, the AK-47). However, of course, it's your choice.


Okay, then I'll stick to the AKM and the Type 81 as service rifles, the TKB-022 as the carbine for the Elite troops, and the AK-47 as a ceremonial and milita weapon. Maybe your right with that!

http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pi ... 167042.jpg
Here's the weapon the Elite forces use!!

The elite? :rofl:
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Postby Ea90 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:09 pm

Tryienne wrote:
Ea90 wrote:*Sigh*
At least switch to the AKM; it is cheaper to produce, lighter, has better accuracy, and is just generally a better rifle. That's if you want to keep it AK. For weapons using 7.62x39mm, I would suggest either the TKB-517 or Type 81 as a service rifle and TKB-022 as a carbine. There are loads of others that give you much better performance than the AKM (and, therefore, the AK-47). However, of course, it's your choice.


Okay, then I'll stick to the AKM and the Type 81 as service rifles, the TKB-022 as the carbine for the Elite troops, and the AK-47 as a ceremonial and milita weapon. Maybe your right with that!

http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pi ... 167042.jpg
Here's the weapon the Elite forces use!!

Awesome.
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Fischermann
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Postby Fischermann » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:12 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
Tryienne wrote:
Okay, then I'll stick to the AKM and the Type 81 as service rifles, the TKB-022 as the carbine for the Elite troops, and the AK-47 as a ceremonial and milita weapon. Maybe your right with that!

http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pi ... 167042.jpg
Here's the weapon the Elite forces use!!

The elite? :rofl:


It's a robust weapon with minimum length, maximum barrel length, enough comfortability and reliability to ensure that it can fire in worse conditions.

I can't see the problem.

And I never saw that picture of the TKB-022 before, so thanks.

Though Galla defends that nobody knows how the TKB-022 works, I believe someone around here posted a Post from an InvisionFree NS Weapon Forum that actually explained how the goddamn TKB-022 worked.
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