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Postby Morriah Coast » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:13 am

Munathanura wrote:
Morriah Coast wrote:
There is nothing more classy than a lever-action. NOTHING. Although...I have to agree with you in the fact that the M1897 Trench looks very snazzy.


I think that we'll have to agree to disagree.


Naw, I'm just gonna finish with saying that the M1887 is classy, the M1897 is snazzy, and the Auto-5 is rape in Red Dead.

And we shall never discuss this again.


Oh, and the Owen looks like crap.
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Postby Munathanura » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:17 am

Morriah Coast wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
I think that we'll have to agree to disagree.


Naw, I'm just gonna finish with saying that the M1887 is classy, the M1897 is snazzy, and the Auto-5 is rape in Red Dead.

And we shall never discuss this again.


Oh, and the Owen looks like crap.


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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:23 am

Mozkovia wrote:ak-200 modified to shoot 6x100mm ammo

The recoil is not feasible to control, and the ammunition will be not only ungodly large, but ungodly heavy. You're firing rounds with almost autocannon levels of power.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:25 am

Mosasauria wrote:
Pridwen wrote:
Honestly I think it's rather nicely done. You may want to clear off those rails on the receiver though. (White rectangles are a godsend.)

I do like it without the rails. :)
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m54 ... ifle-2.jpg
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I'm still not seeing it:

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So should I adjust the front or rear sight?

IMO, rear. By moving it lower and physically over the sight housing, you could claim that it still has the iron sight clear. Though raising the front slightly at the same time couldn't hurt.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:32 am

Mosasauria wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:practice make perfect
if you told me last january that i would be doing my
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i wouldn't belive you, as my art at time was like
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But around February i then started spending more time on them and got things like
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i did my first gun in March, it was
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a history of the guns i have done http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9208/historyq.png some guns i have done aren't on this list and its in a rough order of when i did them, although some guns may have been edited later (some are still WIPS)

How could you even think of saying that last one was horrible? It's damn good.
Now this, this is truly terrible.

First posted, coloured weapon.
Most recent version of that weapon. And I may yet tweak it, given the advances made in my technique with the one below.
Most recent weapon.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:34 am

Deltan Imperium wrote:
Fischermann wrote:
You can lineart it, improve and become a respected user of LineArt while learning things about firearms on this thread.

Why take the easy way out and go without a reward?


i Dont have the time

Whilst I agree with the sentiment if not the phrasing of my compatriots, the best option is to do the lineart yourself.
Do it in little bits. Then, when you've completed it, you tweak every little bit, every so often, when you have time, until it's all tweaked.
Then you rinse and repeat several times, and it will be amazing.

It happens, and I keep telling people that it's how my linearts always progress.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:38 am

Indeos wrote:
Daenya wrote:
I'm looking for something with good stopping power, as my defense tactic for the military is to turn the country into a giant bowl of sniper filled valleys. Would the SG 550 be a good choice?


Nope. You're better off just sticking to/modernizing the FAL (insofar as the FAL can be modernized) and supplementing it with above-average numbers of .338 Lapua Magnum or .408 CheyTac sniper rifles. (I'd suggest the DSR-1 for the former round, the second will require some looking.)

This.
The closest thing to a modern FAL really is the Kel-Tec RFB, which is a bullpup weapon. Being single-fire only, it's more akin to the L1A1 variant of the FAL, but the reduced profile from becoming a bullpup wouldn't serve much purpose except for perhaps a slight ease of stowage, with your plans for long-range engagement making the CQC size-related bonuses redundant.

I should make more 'conventional' layout weapons, almost all of my rifle-type weapons are bullpup.
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Imperial isa
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Postby Imperial isa » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:44 am

could one call the Kel-Tec RFB a Battle pup ?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:02 am

lolol
If you wanted to, but it's a Bullpup Battle Rifle going by technical-ish names.
RFB actually stands for Rifle, Forward-ejecting, Bullpup btw.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:06 am

Made an RIS handguard for my AR-3, at long last.
It was supposed to look like this, but I got lazy and did this instead.
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It's for mounting underbarrel shotguns and grenade launchers. The foregrip is supposed to become a pistol grip for said underbarrels in this configuration.
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Postby Imperial isa » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:25 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:lolol
If you wanted to, but it's a Bullpup Battle Rifle going by technical-ish names.
RFB actually stands for Rifle, Forward-ejecting, Bullpup btw.


guess so

anyone seen any facts if it can take the FAL 30 round mags ?
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Yohannes
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Postby Yohannes » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:26 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Made an RIS handguard for my AR-3, at long last.
It was supposed to look like this, but I got lazy and did this instead.
(Image)
It's for mounting underbarrel shotguns and grenade launchers. The foregrip is supposed to become a pistol grip for said underbarrels in this configuration.


I might order some once its finish 100%. Nothing's wrong with increasing my IC collections from ooc buddies. :p
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Postby Munathanura » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:31 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Made an RIS handguard for my AR-3, at long last.
It was supposed to look like this, but I got lazy and did this instead.
(Image)
It's for mounting underbarrel shotguns and grenade launchers. The foregrip is supposed to become a pistol grip for said underbarrels in this configuration.


That's looking good. I like the idea of the foregrip becoming the pistol grip for the underbarrel weapons. It's a great touch.

Imperial isa wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:lolol
If you wanted to, but it's a Bullpup Battle Rifle going by technical-ish names.
RFB actually stands for Rifle, Forward-ejecting, Bullpup btw.


guess so

anyone seen any facts if it can take the FAL 30 round mags ?


Probably not, unless there were some metric 30 rounders designed. You could probably make a 30 round mag for it if you wanted, though.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:48 am

Munathanura wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Made an RIS handguard for my AR-3, at long last.
It was supposed to look like this, but I got lazy and did this instead.
(Image)
It's for mounting underbarrel shotguns and grenade launchers. The foregrip is supposed to become a pistol grip for said underbarrels in this configuration.


That's looking good. I like the idea of the foregrip becoming the pistol grip for the underbarrel weapons. It's a great touch.
Yohannes wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Made an RIS handguard for my AR-3, at long last.
It was supposed to look like this, but I got lazy and did this instead.
(Image)
It's for mounting underbarrel shotguns and grenade launchers. The foregrip is supposed to become a pistol grip for said underbarrels in this configuration.


I might order some once its finish 100%. Nothing's wrong with increasing my IC collections from ooc buddies. :p

Thanks :D

Munathanura wrote:
Imperial isa wrote:
guess so

anyone seen any facts if it can take the FAL 30 round mags ?


Probably not, unless there were some metric 30 rounders designed. You could probably make a 30 round mag for it if you wanted, though.

I don't see why it shouldn't, they're both 7.62x51mm NATO. Were FAL 30-rounders (I'm assuming you mean its banana mags) not a part of STANAG?
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Postby Munathanura » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:58 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I don't see why it shouldn't, they're both 7.62x51mm NATO. Were FAL 30-rounders (I'm assuming you mean its banana mags) not a part of STANAG?


There are two kinds of FAL magazines: metric and imperial. The metrics were used by the Europeans, and the imperials by the Commonwealth. I had thought that no metric 30 round magazines had been made, but it turns out that DSA makes them.
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Postby Imperial isa » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:35 am

Munathanura wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I don't see why it shouldn't, they're both 7.62x51mm NATO. Were FAL 30-rounders (I'm assuming you mean its banana mags) not a part of STANAG?


There are two kinds of FAL magazines: metric and imperial. The metrics were used by the Europeans, and the imperials by the Commonwealth. I had thought that no metric 30 round magazines had been made, but it turns out that DSA makes them.

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Postby Fischermann » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:49 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I don't see why it shouldn't, they're both 7.62x51mm NATO. Were FAL 30-rounders (I'm assuming you mean its banana mags) not a part of STANAG?


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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:54 am

Imperial isa wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
There are two kinds of FAL magazines: metric and imperial. The metrics were used by the Europeans, and the imperials by the Commonwealth. I had thought that no metric 30 round magazines had been made, but it turns out that DSA makes them.

huh well i be


America actually makes a large portion of the world's FALs nowadays, after Brazil and Argentina, iirc.

Although I'd always thought that DSA had given up on producing locally made FN magazines after they stopped listing 20 and 25-round magazines on their website.

This is a pleasant surprise.
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Postby Coltarin » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:02 am

Fischermann wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I don't see why it shouldn't, they're both 7.62x51mm NATO. Were FAL 30-rounders (I'm assuming you mean its banana mags) not a part of STANAG?


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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:04 am

Coltarin wrote:
Fischermann wrote:
(Image)

Kill it with fire.


no

sa58 OSW is great. i can also only assume they fixed the spring problems that were in initial 30-rounders derived from the Bren.
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Postby Coltarin » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:16 am

Galla- wrote:
Coltarin wrote:Kill it with fire.


no

sa58 OSW is great. i can also only assume they fixed the spring problems that were in initial 30-rounders derived from the Bren.

I love the Fal it's the best western made battle rifle ever made but that mag must die
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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:34 am

Coltarin wrote:
Galla- wrote:
no

sa58 OSW is great. i can also only assume they fixed the spring problems that were in initial 30-rounders derived from the Bren.

I love the Fal it's the best western made battle rifle ever made but that mag must die


Image

u mad?
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Postby Anemos Major » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:38 am

Galla- wrote:
Coltarin wrote:I love the Fal it's the best western made battle rifle ever made but that mag must die


Image

u mad?


Image

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Postby Dimoniquid » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:47 am

Can't tell if love child with another FAL, or a long lost sibling...

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Postby Galla- » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:47 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Galla- wrote:
(Image)

u mad?


Image


that barrel isn't a HBAR

that's like a lightweight featherweight

should be as thick as barrel opening on the gas block tbh
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