Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. IV) The Proper Un

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Feeling awfully uninspired. Give me something to make, I'm usually better at 11 o'clock at night.

Anti-material rifle.

[Imperial isa]

The Saiga-12 Combat Shotgun.

The Saiga 12 is your main weapon?
I like it, mind, but shotguns as service rifles tends not to work.

what about in a Hive city ?

[Vingtor]

Hey; most of the people who I care about (and Vingtor) are on this thread right now. So I'll just put this out there.

If you ever see me speaking in poorly punctuated, fragmented sentences and saying really insensitive, ignorant things; don't take it fucking seriously.

I will.

I will take everything you say literally and to heart.

I will devote my life to hunting you down because of some inconsequential completely life-changingly insulting comment you made half-heartedly on the internet.

I will look you up on the Yellow Pages and prank call you like there's no tomorrow.
I will empty out your local shop's stock of your favourite food.
I will take that last spot on the train when you're desperate to get to work.

You have been warned.

[Reformed York]

Feeling awfully uninspired. Give me something to make, I'm usually better at 11 o'clock at night.

Anti-material rifle.

1950s, bro

[Indeos]

For my 6000th post, I present Byelorussian SSR's take on a modern, non-cheap Sten. (Insofar as that is a Sten.)

http://imageshack.us/f/190/stengunmk1intgsuppresse.jpg

Half-assed Statblock:
Cartridge: 10mm Auto (200gr)
Velocity: ~500 m/s
Energy: ~1,020 J
Effective Range: 55m
Rate of Fire: 775 rpm (Select-fire)
Action: Roller Delayed Blowback, closed bolt.
Weight: 2.8 kg unloaded.
Length (Stock Extended): 723mm
Length (Stock Folded): 467mm
Barrel Length: 266mm
Magazine Capacity: 16 or 32 round magazine, 50 round drum.

Shown with drum mag and integral suppressor because it's for spec ops.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Anti-material rifle.

1950s, bro

WWII anti-tank rifles were the AMRs of the day.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

For my 6000th post, I present Byelorussian SSR's take on a modern, non-cheap Sten. (Insofar as that is a Sten.)

http://imageshack.us/f/190/stengunmk1intgsuppresse.jpg

Half-assed Statblock:
Cartridge: 10mm Auto (200gr)
Velocity: ~500 m/s
Energy: ~1,020 J
Effective Range: 55m
Rate of Fire: 775 rpm (Select-fire)
Action: Roller Delayed Blowback, closed bolt.
Weight: 2.8 kg unloaded.
Length (Stock Extended): 723mm
Length (Stock Folded): 467mm
Barrel Length: 266mm
Magazine Capacity: 16 or 32 round magazine, 50 round drum.

Shown with drum mag and integral suppressor because it's for spec ops.

Dat weapon balance.
Looks good though.

[Reformed York]

1950s, bro

WWII anti-tank rifles were the AMRs of the day.

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

[Galla-]

It wasn't at you. I know Australians can fight.

I know, but I can understand why Europeans, who have fought harder and longer than you Americans ever have, get annoyed at the suggestion that they cannot fight. Look at how the Poles did against the Germans, or how well the Fins did against the Russians, or how well the French actually fought, rather than what the stereotype says happened. After all, the stereotype says that the Americans were the sole reason why WW2 was a win for the allies.

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Anyway, back on topic, what do people think about the USMCs partial replacement of the M249 with the M27 IAR? Do LSW/IARs with 30 round magazines have any place on the modern battlefield?

IAR is designed for 150-round drum magazines iirc. There is a reason it is HBAR and has a reinforced magwell.

[Indeos]

For my 6000th post, I present Byelorussian SSR's take on a modern, non-cheap Sten. (Insofar as that is a Sten.)

http://imageshack.us/f/190/stengunmk1intgsuppresse.jpg

Half-assed Statblock:
Cartridge: 10mm Auto (200gr)
Velocity: ~500 m/s
Energy: ~1,020 J
Effective Range: 55m
Rate of Fire: 775 rpm (Select-fire)
Action: Roller Delayed Blowback, closed bolt.
Weight: 2.8 kg unloaded.
Length (Stock Extended): 723mm
Length (Stock Folded): 467mm
Barrel Length: 266mm
Magazine Capacity: 16 or 32 round magazine, 50 round drum.

Shown with drum mag and integral suppressor because it's for spec ops.

Dat weapon balance.
Looks good though.

Psh, balance. Who needs it? Definitely not Indeosans. I think I have one of his BRs sitting around, too. Also a sideloader. Need to fix the stats, though.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I feel a better choice over the IA27 would have been the SA80's L86 LSW weapon.

WWII anti-tank rifles were the AMRs of the day.

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

Make it a coilgun powered by more of those nuclear batteries you have. One round capacity, bolt action cycling. APFSDS round.
Make it so ludicrously hyper powered that firing two rounds in quick succession (lolwut) would probably melt the barrel.

[Anemos Major]

Anyway, back on topic, what do people think about the USMCs partial replacement of the M249 with the M27 IAR? Do LSW/IARs with 30 round magazines have any place on the modern battlefield?

Yes, definitely.




*shifty eyes*

[Fischermann]

WWII anti-tank rifles were the AMRs of the day.

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

Semi - Automatic.

Kinda like the PTRS-41.

[Reformed York]

I feel a better choice over the IA27 would have been the SA80's L86 LSW weapon.

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

Make it a coilgun powered by more of those nuclear batteries you have. One round capacity, bolt action cycling. APFSDS round.
Make it so ludicrously hyper powered that firing two rounds in quick succession (lolwut) would probably melt the barrel.

It's a coilgun. Electromagnets don't heat up, as far as I know.

EDIT: Oh, dat frixton.

[Indeos]

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

Semi - Automatic.

Kinda like the PTRS-41.

Full auto, like the one whose name I can't remember.

[Imperial isa]

WWII anti-tank rifles were the AMRs of the day.

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

Wz. 35 anti-tank rifle was bolt so was the Mauser 1918 T-Gewehr

[Indeos]

Semi - Automatic.

Kinda like the PTRS-41.

Full auto, like the one whose name I can't remember.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solothurn_S-18/1100 Found it. Go big or go home.

[Munathanura]

WWII anti-tank rifles were the AMRs of the day.

Good point. What kind? I was thinking about an annoying, single shot bolt action one if I make one.

Some sort of lulzy 20mm AT rifle. Single shot, massive muzzle break, nice big recoil pad, 40 kg weight.

Anyway, back on topic, what do people think about the USMCs partial replacement of the M249 with the M27 IAR? Do LSW/IARs with 30 round magazines have any place on the modern battlefield?

IAR is designed for 150-round drum magazines iirc. There is a reason it is HBAR and has a reinforced magwell.

It's being initially issued with 30 round mags, though, isn't it?

Yes, definitely.

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*shifty eyes*

I'd tend to disagree. At the minimum, I'd like to see it issued with a Magpul/Surefire style coffin quad stack mag (two separate columns with their own spring) or a polymer version of the Ultimax drum mag. A modern LSW should be able to lay down a good deal more suppressing fire than a standard rifle, in my opinion.

[Indeos]

IAR is designed for 150-round drum magazines iirc. There is a reason it is HBAR and has a reinforced magwell.

It's being initially issued with 30 round mags, though, isn't it?

Yes, definitely.

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*shifty eyes*

I'd tend to disagree. At the minimum, I'd like to see it issued with a Magpul/Surefire style coffin quad stack mag (two separate columns with their own spring) or a polymer version of the Ultimax drum mag. A modern LSW should be able to lay down a good deal more suppressing fire than a standard rifle, in my opinion.

IIRC it was mostly an excuse so they could have the weapon it's based off of, because they wanted to replace M4s or M16s or w/e. They weren't actually going to issue it as an LSW when I first heard about it.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I feel a better choice over the IA27 would have been the SA80's L86 LSW weapon.
Make it a coilgun powered by more of those nuclear batteries you have. One round capacity, bolt action cycling. APFSDS round.
Make it so ludicrously hyper powered that firing two rounds in quick succession (lolwut) would probably melt the barrel.

It's a coilgun. Electromagnets don't heat up, as far as I know.

EDIT: Oh, dat frixton.

Well, in a large railgun (though wiki gives no indication of the size of the gun itself or the round), wiki says that a suitable input value is 'one million amperes', which is a ridiculous amount and will certainly cause heating both by the sheer energy being input, and also by slight insulating properties in all materials providing huge resistance to huge amperes. Then there's the round, which has so much energy from the coils/rails, it turns the air behind it to plasma.

[Reformed York]

Actually, since it's gonna be AT, should I go Coilgun or full-on Railgun?

[Anemos Major]

Yes, definitely.

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*shifty eyes*

I'd tend to disagree. At the minimum, I'd like to see it issued with a Magpul/Surefire style coffin quad stack mag (two separate columns with their own spring) or a polymer version of the Ultimax drum mag. A modern LSW should be able to lay down a good deal more suppressing fire than a standard rifle, in my opinion.

'tis in jest.

30 rounds mags aren't enough, no. But with high capacity magazines, it's a highly viable and logistically sensible idea to have a modular weapons family.

(I want to see the JGSDF replace the Howa Type 89 with some lulzy modular weapons system, gah)

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Actually, since it's gonna be AT, should I go Coilgun or full-on Railgun?

Railguns, they're simpler and have fewer parts.

I was considering building a couple of railgun AT rifles for my own army when I got PMT enough, now I'm not so sure because of recoil. Hmm.

[Reformed York]

Actually, since it's gonna be AT, should I go Coilgun or full-on Railgun?

Railguns, they're simpler and have fewer parts.

I was considering building a couple of railgun AT rifles for my own army when I got PMT enough, now I'm not so sure because of recoil. Hmm.

I kind of want to go coilgun so I can have a wormy, 1950s sci-fi barrel, like my pistol.

[Indeos]

So, once Ott responds I'll have a side-loading BR to post. I think my national defense dragoons(horse-mounted) use it because the cartridge it fires is almost a sniper round, and even if the pic doesn't show it it can mount a sword bayonet. I might as well post the pic now, though.

http://imageshack.us/f/96/hailmk1battlerifleloade.jpg/