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Postby Bajireyn » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:57 pm

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Still a work in progress,thoughts?
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:17 pm

Bajireyn wrote:(Image)

Still a work in progress,thoughts?


dude

there is no room for your hand, for your bolt, for anything
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Postby Bajireyn » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:51 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:(Image)

Still a work in progress,thoughts?


dude

there is no room for your hand, for your bolt, for anything

Please explain
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Postby Senestrum » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:12 pm

Altamirus wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
dude

there is no room for your hand, for your bolt, for anything

TKB -022 PM says what.


TKB-022PM is not side-ejecting, and I can't think of a way to make it be side-ejecting.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:17 pm

Altamirus wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
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there is no room for your hand, for your bolt, for anything

TKB -022 PM says what.


Yeah do you not see the ejection port over the magazine or something?

I mean, it doesn't even make sense as a gyrojet tbh.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:22 pm

Altamirus wrote:
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TKB-022PM is not side-ejecting, and I can't think of a way to make it be side-ejecting.

Yes,you're right, but the gun looks top ejecting to me, evidence by how high up the ejection port is and how we can't see half of it.


Yeah and the TKB-022PM is forward ejecting, so this cannot be the same action.
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Postby Physcopath » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:24 pm

We use Chlorine Gas. And hydrogen Bombs.

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Postby Svormannhelm » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:26 pm

Physcopath wrote:We use Chlorine Gas. And hydrogen Bombs.


I invade your country.

You use those on your country.

My troops withdraw. Your citizens die.

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A very simple improvised weapon:

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Diagram:

Image

Also, I have some questions for you all.

So, my gun's trigger holds the bolt back. I pull the trigger, bolt is free and fires. What will happen if I pull the trigger ''prematurely'' and the trigger's ''leash part'' is broken? Or simply, I do it wrong and it starts slamfiring until I stop it?

Altamirus:

That hole doesn't exist on later versions.

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Postby Senestrum » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:29 pm

Altamirus wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Yeah and the TKB-022PM is forward ejecting, so this cannot be the same action.

Then what the hole in the TKB-22PM for?


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only hole is the one over the barrel, broski
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:31 pm

Altamirus wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Yeah and the TKB-022PM is forward ejecting, so this cannot be the same action.

Then what the hole in the TKB-22PM for?


wat

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Postby Bajireyn » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:37 pm

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Caseless weapons don't need ejection ports
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Postby Svormannhelm » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:40 pm

Bajireyn wrote:(Image)
Updated

Caseless weapons don't need ejection ports


They need bolts, however. And I can't see a bolt working on that gun. (Korobov Bolt doesn't look like it'd fit).

Seriously, the Modular rifle you had earlier with the heat shield is badass. Why not keep on using it?
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Postby Munathanura » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:43 pm

Bajireyn wrote:(Image)
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Caseless weapons don't need ejection ports


And when you get a jam/misfire?
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Postby Svormannhelm » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:46 pm

Munathanura wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:(Image)
Updated

Caseless weapons don't need ejection ports


And when you get a jam/misfire?


FT Ammo teleporter.

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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:49 pm

Munathanura wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:(Image)
Updated

Caseless weapons don't need ejection ports


And when you get a jam/misfire?


Pull magazine.

Rack charging handle.

Reinsert magazine.

Re-rack charging handle.
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Postby Svormannhelm » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:57 pm

Svormannhelm wrote:
A very simple improvised weapon:

(Image)

Diagram:

(Image)

Also, I have some questions for you all.

So, my gun's trigger holds the bolt back. I pull the trigger, bolt is free and fires. What will happen if I pull the trigger ''prematurely'' and the trigger's ''leash part'' is broken? Or simply, I do it wrong and it starts slamfiring until I stop it?


Repost of attention.

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Postby Munathanura » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:06 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
And when you get a jam/misfire?


Pull magazine.

Rack charging handle.

Reinsert magazine.

Re-rack charging handle.


Point.
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Caninope wrote:OMG, FBI does it's jobs and uses search warrants to recover stolen property. The world is ending.

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Postby Sremski okrug » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:18 pm

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Zastava M77
Cartridge: 7.62x51mm NATO
Effective range: 600 m
Feed system: 20 rounds

8)
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Postby Munathanura » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:24 pm

Sremski okrug wrote:(Image)
Zastava M77
Cartridge: 7.62x51mm NATO
Effective range: 800 m
Feed system: 30 rounds

8)


Effective range will be shorter if you're using iron sights, and the box magazine shown only holds 20 rounds.
Wamitoria wrote:
Caninope wrote:OMG, FBI does it's jobs and uses search warrants to recover stolen property. The world is ending.

Welcome to America, where the authorities can be doing too much and too little at the same god damn time.
Tahar Joblis wrote:Your "heartfelt recommendation," i.e., baseless accusation of misogyny, is noted with all the respect that is due. Which corresponds to that due a $100 billion Zimbabwean banknote. :eyebrow:
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Postby Svormannhelm » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:26 pm

A very simple improvised weapon:

(Image)

Diagram:

(Image)

Also, I have some questions for you all.

So, my gun's trigger holds the bolt back. I pull the trigger, bolt is free and fires. What will happen if I pull the trigger ''prematurely'' and the trigger's ''leash part'' is broken? Or simply, I do it wrong and it starts slamfiring until I stop it?

Repost of attention.

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Postby Sremski okrug » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:34 pm

Munathanura wrote:
Sremski okrug wrote:(Image)
Zastava M77
Cartridge: 7.62x51mm NATO
Effective range: 800 m
Feed system: 30 rounds

8)


Effective range will be shorter if you're using iron sights, and the box magazine shown only holds 20 rounds.


Image
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Postby Senestrum » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:46 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Munathanura wrote:
And when you get a jam/misfire?


Pull magazine.

Rack charging handle.

Reinsert magazine.

Re-rack charging handle.


As opposed to "Rack charging Handle" if you have an ejection port.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:51 pm

Senestrum wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Pull magazine.

Rack charging handle.

Reinsert magazine.

Re-rack charging handle.


As opposed to "Rack charging Handle" if you have an ejection port.


Unnecessary expense.

But yeah, ejection ports are great, but they're not essential for a caseless rifle.
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Postby Senestrum » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:59 pm

That doesn't follow. Caseless actions which allow for ejection with no extra parts are easily conceivable.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:02 pm

No extra parts, including ejector springs?

How?
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