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[Pridwen]

o.O. Just how fast would the minigun have to fire to get that mass ration?

Assuming you're using shells with an ounce and a half of shot, that's somewhere in the vicinity of 45-50 thousand rounds of shot to equal the weight of an adult male rhino. Gatling guns can get up to what, 10,000 RPM? You'd need at least five minutes, and almost certainly more since not all the shot will actually be penetrating into the rhino.

At that point you may as well have just used an elephant gun.

[Indeos]

They're still a completely worthless design, which was my point. I wasn't saying a shotgun minigun would be more effective, just that the grenade minigun was a more worthless design.

Ah, I've misunderstood you then; I thought you meant to say that a shotgun minigun would be better. I'm of the opinion that miniguns in general are unnecessary. A grenade minigun has a more varied array of ammunition options than a shotgun, that's the only reason I would go with that instead.

Miniguns are great on AA vehicles and aircraft, including helicopter door guns, but otherwise pretty pointless.

[Munathanura]

o.O. Just how fast would the minigun have to fire to get that mass ration?

Assuming you're using shells with an ounce and a half of shot, that's somewhere in the vicinity of 45-50 thousand rounds of shot to equal the weight of an adult male rhino. Gatling guns can get up to what, 10,000 RPM? You'd need at least five minutes, and almost certainly more since not all the shot will actually be penetrating into the rhino.

Yeah, I think I'll stick to slugs and grenade rounds .

[Pridwen]

Ah, I've misunderstood you then; I thought you meant to say that a shotgun minigun would be better. I'm of the opinion that miniguns in general are unnecessary. A grenade minigun has a more varied array of ammunition options than a shotgun, that's the only reason I would go with that instead.

Miniguns are great on AA vehicles and aircraft, including helicopter door guns, but otherwise pretty pointless.

That's true I suppose. For surface-to-surface combat I find them to be hopelessly expensive to operate.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Miniguns are great on AA vehicles and aircraft, including helicopter door guns, but otherwise pretty pointless.

That's true I suppose. For surface-to-surface combat I find them to be hopelessly expensive to operate.

rly depends tbh

M163 VADS would turn a good sized apartment building into Swiss cheese.

[Munathanura]

That's true I suppose. For surface-to-surface combat I find them to be hopelessly expensive to operate.

rly depends tbh

M163 VADS would turn a good sized apartment building into Swiss cheese.

It's based on the Gavin, though, so it's therefore awesome and practical anyway*.

*That was a joke, and I am not one of Mikey Spark's followers.

[Anemos Major]

rly depends tbh

M163 VADS would turn a good sized apartment building into Swiss cheese.

It's based on the Gavin, though, so it's therefore awesome and practical anyway*.

*That was a joke, and I am not one of Mikey Spark's followers.

ololol gavin strooooong

[Munathanura]

It's based on the Gavin, though, so it's therefore awesome and practical anyway*.

*That was a joke, and I am not one of Mikey Spark's followers.

ololol gavin strooooong

There needs to be some infantry with gunshields for that picture to be complete.

[Arkania 5]

An autocannon will do anything a grenade minigun could do better.

If by better you mean using less ammunition, and taking up less space, I wholeheartedly agree. However, I still think that grenade miniguns are more effective than shotgun miniguns, and apparently the U.S. military agrees.

What the fuck?

[The Soviet Technocracy]

rly depends tbh

M163 VADS would turn a good sized apartment building into Swiss cheese.

It's based on the Gavin, though, so it's therefore awesome and practical anyway*.

*That was a joke, and I am not one of Mikey Spark's followers.

ikr

israelis use vads for ground support iirc tho

and us army too

spehs vads y/y? ttly thinking of modifying an m113 VADS to be used on the moon to shoot down incoming hordes of LK landers. p much need to figure out how to fit a closed cycle diesel and room for the A7L suit and tht's rly it tbh

[Munathanura]

It's based on the Gavin, though, so it's therefore awesome and practical anyway*.

*That was a joke, and I am not one of Mikey Spark's followers.

ikr

israelis use vads for ground support iirc tho

and us army too

spehs vads y/y? ttly thinking of modifying an m113 VADS to be used on the moon

room for A7L suits, 2 man crew, and a closed cycle diesel engine

Yeah, I've heard that the Israelis have quite a lot of success with their VADS against ground targets. It's far from a useless system.

And yes, go for it. It'll give you a reason to justify those RRs .

[Anemos Major]

ololol gavin strooooong

There needs to be some infantry with gunshields for that picture to be complete.

Screw gunshields.

Gavin Stroooooooong.

[The Soviet Technocracy]

There needs to be some infantry with gunshields for that picture to be complete.

Screw gunshields.

Gavin Stroooooooong.

wat addon be this?

[Munathanura]

There needs to be some infantry with gunshields for that picture to be complete.

Screw gunshields.

Gavin Stroooooooong.

*bows*

Your Arma-fu is too strong for me. Please, forgive me for ever doubting the Gavin.

[Creative Vikings]

My military's main weapon is their sense of Humour

Other than that they are a semi-unstoppable hoard all armed with FN F2000(T)'s and pikes. Artillerysupport is provided by 267 16-stage coilgun batteries fireing a cross between depleted uranium shells and the shells left over from the initial ammunition because we care about the environment (to a degree we can agree on)

[Anemos Major]

Screw gunshields.

Gavin Stroooooooong.

*bows*

Your Arma-fu is too strong for me. Please, forgive me for ever doubting the Gavin.

Never doubt. Never forget.

[Munathanura]

*bows*

Your Arma-fu is too strong for me. Please, forgive me for ever doubting the Gavin.

Never doubt. Never forget.

I won't, not ever.

By the way, which mod is that from?

[Anemos Major]

Never doubt. Never forget.

I won't, not ever.

By the way, which mod is that from?

PRACS.

VADS strong too.

[Munathanura]

I won't, not ever.

By the way, which mod is that from?

PRACS.

VADS strong too.

Cheers.

[Munathanura]

It appears that the ADF used Super Gavins before Super Gavins were cool.

[Pridwen]

Now I'm aware that PMG is a very lazy thing to use, but I always do my best to do unusual things with it. I've made an RPG-style anti-tank weapon with PMG, no blending. Hopefully somebody likes it.

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd4 ... 1315463809
I would have used image tags, but the picture was too large.

[Munathanura]

Now I'm aware that PMG is a very lazy thing to use, but I always do my best to do unusual things with it. I've made an RPG-style anti-tank weapon with PMG, no blending. Hopefully somebody likes it.

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd4 ... 1315463809
I would have used image tags, but the picture was too large.

Either the grips should be closer together, or you should only use one. The launcher also looks a bit long, but that could just be me.

[Immoren]

It's based on the Gavin, though, so it's therefore awesome and practical anyway*.

*That was a joke, and I am not one of Mikey Spark's followers.

ololol gavin strooooong

Those tankified M113s are not flashy enough.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Seems like a bit much, but I can see its uses.

I think it's just for fun, honestly. There is no reasonable use for it.

Red Jacket guns never seem to have a purpose. The last RJ thing getting linked here was the US Militia commander who wanted to affix a twin-barrel M16 to one of his gunboats as a support weapon because of 'high rate of fire'. Well, just buy a gatling gun you tosspot. More reliable in the role you're going to use it, and more effective.

[Galla-]

I think it's just for fun, honestly. There is no reasonable use for it.

Red Jacket guns never seem to have a purpose. The last RJ thing getting linked here was the US Militia commander who wanted to affix a twin-barrel M16 to one of his gunboats as a support weapon because of 'high rate of fire'. Well, just buy a gatling gun you tosspot. More reliable in the role you're going to use it, and more effective.

They also made a swivel mount to fit an EC135 for mounting an FN MAG.

For some mercenary company.