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Postby Garrystan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:29 am

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No, The Rigor Mortis X-133 is supplied with miniature muscle relaxing tickle wires in the handle that will relax the muscles enough so one is able to succesfully hit the target


... ... ... You do realize how hard it is to hold a gun that long with just a pistol grip? The recoil would be negligible cause teh barrel would weigh so damn much. Its Hitting somthing in the first place


The miniature muscle relaxing tickle wires in the handle will also supply enough adrenaline to the muscles so that one can lift and shoot it while controlling the recoil

Give up?

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:29 am

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The barrel is to long (NO SHIT) The gasses would slow down by the end of it



I don't see the problem. A lot of revolver rounds are used in rifles already. That looks to be a semi-rifle-length barrel. I would assume about an 18" to 20" barrel on that assuming the frame of it is roughly 5"-6" butt-to-frame-front. That being said, lever action rifle barrels are typically around 20" to 24" in length.



I have fired a 12" revolver in .22LR, and it is quite accurate. I was talking to a good friend of mine who also shot it with the owner "back in the day" (1980s). He said he managed to kill a deer at ~60 yards with it. I have no doubts about it considering the witness was my father and that this said friend has shot a running deer mid-air while it was jumping a fence with a rifle before. He also qualified as a marksman on the M60 during his time in the Army in the 1970s. That being said, a long-barrel revolver can be kind of awkward to hold, but far from impossible to hit something with.

Since this individual claims this revolver is popular with high-up officers, I would assume they are never used. For a combat situation, a revolver with a rifle-length barrel is probably the largest hindrance ever devised. Not only is there no way to holster it and still be mobile, but aiming it "on the go" is next to impossible and the fact it's rifle length while not being a rifle... Makes it the answer to a question that literally no one was asking.


Yeah i know that was what i was thinking. And Like you said. For combat its beyond useless.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:31 am

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... ... ... You do realize how hard it is to hold a gun that long with just a pistol grip? The recoil would be negligible cause teh barrel would weigh so damn much. Its Hitting somthing in the first place


The miniature muscle relaxing tickle wires in the handle will also supply enough adrenaline to the muscles so that one can lift and shoot it while controlling the recoil

Give up?


Nope. Adrenaline would throw off your aim, And probably make said soldier be insanely tired after firming his pistol

So far this gun can

A: Relax teh soldiers muscles (Not somthign you want in combat)

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which should be saved for when he need sit if its not already active)

C: Take up room on a soldiers bach that could hold a Rocket Launcher, or Shotgun or Ammo belts.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:35 am

Apparently, my edit wasn't quite made in time. However, I have become somewhat interested in revolvers as of late, in particular, this one. I'm really enjoying the .357 Magnum / 9mm Para. model with the 4.62" barrel. After my experiences with the 92FS two days ago, I'm thinking I'd like to add one of those eventually. Since that'd bring me up to two 9mms, having a revolver that also fired 9mm would save me a lot of time and money due to ammunition commonality. It's also cheaper to get ammo for than the .45ACP conversion (though, I do have a funny feeling in my pants for the SIG SAUER Tactical Operations with threaded barrel).

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Postby Garrystan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:37 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Garrystan wrote:
The miniature muscle relaxing tickle wires in the handle will also supply enough adrenaline to the muscles so that one can lift and shoot it while controlling the recoil

Give up?


Nope. Adrenaline would throw off your aim, And probably make said soldier be insanely tired after firming his pistol

So far this gun can

A: Relax teh soldiers muscles (Not somthign you want in combat)

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which should be saved for when he need sit if its not already active)

C: Take up room on a soldiers bach that could hold a Rocket Launcher, or Shotgun or Ammo belts.


Fixed:

A: Only relax the soldiers muscles when they are holding the gun (it quickly wears off) - besides, soldiers don't use the gun, only generals do; and they use them for self-defense

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which is saved for all times)

C: Yes, it will take up much room - but this revolver is far more useful than, say, a shotgun, so it doesn't matter

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:40 am

Garrystan wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Nope. Adrenaline would throw off your aim, And probably make said soldier be insanely tired after firming his pistol

So far this gun can

A: Relax teh soldiers muscles (Not somthign you want in combat)

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which should be saved for when he need sit if its not already active)

C: Take up room on a soldiers bach that could hold a Rocket Launcher, or Shotgun or Ammo belts.


Fixed:

A: Only relax the soldiers muscles when they are holding the gun (it quickly wears off) - besides, soldiers don't use the gun, only generals do; and they use them for self-defense

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which is saved for all times)

C: Yes, it will take up much room - but this revolver is far more useful than, say, a shotgun, so it doesn't matter


Broken beyond repair.

Why in the hell would you use this for self defense? A 9mm or .45 Pistol would do so much better.

Enplane, Really ENPLANE how this...Bastardized revolver is better than a shotgun in Any way shape or form.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:47 am

Garrystan wrote:Fixed:

A: Only relax the soldiers muscles when they are holding the gun (it quickly wears off) - besides, soldiers don't use the gun, only generals do; and they use them for self-defense

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which is saved for all times)

C: Yes, it will take up much room - but this revolver is far more useful than, say, a shotgun, so it doesn't matter


  • If their muscles are relaxed, it would be impossible to aim the firearm. Go hold onto a pistol, now relax every single muscle in your hands. Your fingers are no longer gripping, the pistol will fall out of your hands, and if it does not, it will upon firing. Also, how can you pull the trigger if your fingers' muscles are relaxed? This is in no way beneficial to the soldier. In fact, in semi-automatics, a relaxed grip will cause more malfunctions.
  • I don't understand the second part in the way it's being presented.
  • This revolver is larger than a shotgun, fires a single projectile, and is cumbersome to aim. A shotgun can be used in self-defense as a simple "sawn-off" shotgun. Since this firearm is obviously for looks, a sawn-off would probably look just as good. Whatever. Either way, if you had a sawn-off shotgun, you'd have an overall length of about 18" or less. Assuming you used 00 Buck like you should, that would mean nine ~.31-caliber projectiles were leaving the barrel when the trigger was pulled. The spread from the shortened barrel would probably make a chest-sized grouping at fifteen or twenty feet. This would be far more ideal and practical than your rifle-revolver mix-up. Even though your revolver holds six rounds per cylinder and a "sawn-off" holds two at the most, a sawn-off is easier to reload. The only downside to the sawn-off shotgun would be recoil, but compared to all the other benefits when thrown against this revolver, that is a moot point.
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Postby Garrystan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:49 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Garrystan wrote:Fixed:

A: Only relax the soldiers muscles when they are holding the gun (it quickly wears off) - besides, soldiers don't use the gun, only generals do; and they use them for self-defense

B: Trigger his fight or flight response (Which is saved for all times)

C: Yes, it will take up much room - but this revolver is far more useful than, say, a shotgun, so it doesn't matter


  • If their muscles are relaxed, it would be impossible to aim the firearm. Go hold onto a pistol, now relax every single muscle in your hands. Your fingers are no longer gripping, the pistol will fall out of your hands, and if it does not, it will upon firing. Also, how can you pull the trigger if your fingers' muscles are relaxed? This is in no way beneficial to the soldier. In fact, in semi-automatics, a relaxed grip will cause more malfunctions.
  • I don't understand the second part in the way it's being presented.
  • This revolver is larger than a shotgun, fires a single projectile, and is cumbersome to aim. A shotgun can be used in self-defense as a simple "sawn-off" shotgun. Since this firearm is obviously for looks, a sawn-off would probably look just as good. Whatever. Either way, if you had a sawn-off shotgun, you'd have an overall length of about 18" or less. Assuming you used 00 Buck like you should, that would mean nine ~.31-caliber projectiles were leaving the barrel when the trigger was pulled. The spread from the shortened barrel would probably make a chest-sized grouping at fifteen or twenty feet. This would be far more ideal and practical than your rifle-revolver mix-up. Even though your revolver holds six rounds per cylinder and a "sawn-off" holds two at the most, a sawn-off is easier to reload. The only downside to the sawn-off shotgun would be recoil, but compared to all the other benefits when thrown against this revolver, that is a moot point.


I'm too tired to debunk more, so i'm just going to say that this gun is just eye candy. It looks badass, and that's all there is to it.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:51 am

Garrystan wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:
  • If their muscles are relaxed, it would be impossible to aim the firearm. Go hold onto a pistol, now relax every single muscle in your hands. Your fingers are no longer gripping, the pistol will fall out of your hands, and if it does not, it will upon firing. Also, how can you pull the trigger if your fingers' muscles are relaxed? This is in no way beneficial to the soldier. In fact, in semi-automatics, a relaxed grip will cause more malfunctions.
  • I don't understand the second part in the way it's being presented.
  • This revolver is larger than a shotgun, fires a single projectile, and is cumbersome to aim. A shotgun can be used in self-defense as a simple "sawn-off" shotgun. Since this firearm is obviously for looks, a sawn-off would probably look just as good. Whatever. Either way, if you had a sawn-off shotgun, you'd have an overall length of about 18" or less. Assuming you used 00 Buck like you should, that would mean nine ~.31-caliber projectiles were leaving the barrel when the trigger was pulled. The spread from the shortened barrel would probably make a chest-sized grouping at fifteen or twenty feet. This would be far more ideal and practical than your rifle-revolver mix-up. Even though your revolver holds six rounds per cylinder and a "sawn-off" holds two at the most, a sawn-off is easier to reload. The only downside to the sawn-off shotgun would be recoil, but compared to all the other benefits when thrown against this revolver, that is a moot point.


I'm too tired to debunk more, so i'm just going to say that this gun is just eye candy. It looks badass, and that's all there is to it.


Eh...No.
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Postby Garrystan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:52 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Garrystan wrote:
I'm too tired to debunk more, so i'm just going to say that this gun is just eye candy. It looks badass, and that's all there is to it.


Eh...No.


Eh... Go away.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:52 am

As you have now learnt, rule of cool only works in this thread when it's pulled off well.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:54 am

Garrystan wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Eh...No.


Eh... Go away.


Seeing as how i was trying to keep you from being ridiculed when Inundos or ANglo show up,m And being a pretty much premenent resident here... No
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:56 am

Garrystan wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:
  • If their muscles are relaxed, it would be impossible to aim the firearm. Go hold onto a pistol, now relax every single muscle in your hands. Your fingers are no longer gripping, the pistol will fall out of your hands, and if it does not, it will upon firing. Also, how can you pull the trigger if your fingers' muscles are relaxed? This is in no way beneficial to the soldier. In fact, in semi-automatics, a relaxed grip will cause more malfunctions.
  • I don't understand the second part in the way it's being presented.
  • This revolver is larger than a shotgun, fires a single projectile, and is cumbersome to aim. A shotgun can be used in self-defense as a simple "sawn-off" shotgun. Since this firearm is obviously for looks, a sawn-off would probably look just as good. Whatever. Either way, if you had a sawn-off shotgun, you'd have an overall length of about 18" or less. Assuming you used 00 Buck like you should, that would mean nine ~.31-caliber projectiles were leaving the barrel when the trigger was pulled. The spread from the shortened barrel would probably make a chest-sized grouping at fifteen or twenty feet. This would be far more ideal and practical than your rifle-revolver mix-up. Even though your revolver holds six rounds per cylinder and a "sawn-off" holds two at the most, a sawn-off is easier to reload. The only downside to the sawn-off shotgun would be recoil, but compared to all the other benefits when thrown against this revolver, that is a moot point.


I'm too tired to debunk more, so i'm just going to say that this gun is just eye candy. It looks badass, and that's all there is to it.



I've known that from the start. However, when you began defending its combat effectiveness with such strange claims, I became a bit unsupportive. I am all for issuing something simply based on its looks when it comes to officers or whatever: heck, the reason I bought my TP25 was simply because it looks like a PPK -- it's a placeholder until I can fill that slot.

However, if I were to suggest a decorative revolver, I would recommend something similar to this. Also, this guy is in Springfield, MO, so I'll have to see what he can do one of these days. I have some engraving in mind for the previously mentioned TP25, and this seems to be a closer drive than the one to Customized Creationz in Michigan(?). However, I'll probably have to send off to CC for the chrome-plating and GunKote-ing.

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Postby Garrystan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:59 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Garrystan wrote:
Eh... Go away.


Seeing as how i was trying to keep you from being ridiculed when Inundos or ANglo show up,m And being a pretty much premenent resident here... No


You guys have no sense of humor.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:03 am

We do.
We just didn't find your weapon funny.
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Postby Ularn » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:26 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:We do.
We just didn't find your weapon funny.

As a general rule of thumb:

"Lol gaiz look at this silly thing I made in PMG!" = funny (briefly)

"Lol gaiz I made this in PMG and will now spend the next seven posts explaining how my handwavium makes it work!" = tiresome
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Trollakistan wrote:(Image)

An advanced variant of the primary Trollaki knife-gun

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Postby Fischermann » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:53 am

Ularn wrote:And speaking of Triplicate; I'm almost done with the THR-288 (image currently too big to fit). Still need to add some shadowing and detailing to the stock, like the grip on the buttplate and the company logo. I also still have yet to draw in the battery/power chord and I'm not entirely sure where the fire selector's going to go yet. You get the idea though.


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Ularn wrote:And speaking of Triplicate; I'm almost done with the THR-288 (image currently too big to fit). Still need to add some shadowing and detailing to the stock, like the grip on the buttplate and the company logo. I also still have yet to draw in the battery/power chord and I'm not entirely sure where the fire selector's going to go yet. You get the idea though.


If only I could use the PMG-shading right..

At some point I'm thinking I might make a tutorial on how to use PMG for mockups, tracing, and cheating with the colour blocks - sort of like Kouralia's done with PMG already. On the other hand, I have a dissertation due in two days and my last exams in a month so I should really stop inventing new commitments for myself in the mean time.
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Graditora's main AR of choice would be the MAS-7

Only changes is the printed GR.M, iron sights, and a different charging handle.
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Postby Coltarin » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:14 am

Graditora wrote:Graditora's main AR of choice would be the MAS-7

Only changes is the printed GR.M, iron sights, and a different charging handle.

this is sanctioned use of my weapon credit to RB for the selector
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Postby Graditora » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:25 am

Coltarin wrote:
Graditora wrote:Graditora's main AR of choice would be the MAS-7

Only changes is the printed GR.M, iron sights, and a different charging handle.

this is sanctioned use of my weapon

Yay! :D
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Ularn
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Postby Ularn » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:28 am

I think it might just about be finished:
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EDIT: Bugger! Scratch that; the bottom of the thumbhole's not been shaded *back to the drawing board*

EDIT2: Also I realise I've been mixing the name up with one of my other guns. This is the THR-432 Heavy Rail Rifle, not the 288, which is the number for the carbine and battle rifle I was spamming last week.

EDIT3: And I need to add the plug sockets for attaching scopes and electronics and a switch to eject the battery *sigh* this is going to take me at least another hour...
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