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Postby Athagos » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:13 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Stoner with Sleight of Hand, Extended Mag and Scavenger was just beast mode on Black Ops.

My friend and I ran a two-man fireteam with that set-up. We made kids cry.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:14 am

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@ Ularn. You used MY COLOR! XD I love Cyan tones.

As for you...How do you name links like that>?

Cyan looks more space-y than red or green.

As for links, like this:
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[url=URL GOES HERE]TEXT GOES HERE[/url]


I agree. And Thanks. And now feel dumb for not knowing what to do !
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Postby Fischermann » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:18 am

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Stoner 63 Survival Rifle.

I might make a lineart version and serve it alongside the OT-57.
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Postby Confederate States of California » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:26 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Confederate States of California wrote:Assault Rifle: M16A1, Phasing out the M14
Pistol: M1911A1
Machine Gun: M60E2, Force Recon and SEALs often use the Stoner M63
Grenade Launcher: M-79 "Thumper"
Shotgun: M1897 Trench Gun (CCMC) Remington M870 (CCA)
Heavy Machine Gun: M2 .50 Cal
Knife: Ka-Bar Mk2 Fighting Knife (CCMC&CCN) M3 Trench Knife (CCA&CCAF)
Light Anti Tank: M72 LAW
Heavy Anti Tank: Carl Gustav Recoiless Rifle, Phasing out the M9 Bazooka.
Carbine: XM177E2, Phasing out the CAR-15E2
SMG: CAR-15E1, Phasing out the M1/M1928 Tohmpson

Vietnam war era?


Mostly yes, the only thing my Millitary really uses that isn't from that era is the new F-14E Echo-Tomcat I designed myself, and it its currently phasing out the F-14A Tomcat in the Navy (CCN) and Marine Corps (CCMC).

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Postby Ularn » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:48 am

Think that's the tracing pretty much done for the THR-288. A fair bit of tweaking still to be done (not quite happy with the stock or the curve of the seam where the barrel merges with the receiver, and like I said there will be side-mounted rails) but I'll get onto that when I start colouring. In the mean time, here it is in all its black and white glory:
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And here's the mock-up for comparison:
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EDIT: I also need to draw in where the power cable/battery connects at the back of the receiver.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:14 pm

Ularn wrote:Think that's the tracing pretty much done for the THR-288. A fair bit of tweaking still to be done (not quite happy with the stock or the curve of the seam where the barrel merges with the receiver, and like I said there will be side-mounted rails) but I'll get onto that when I start colouring. In the mean time, here it is in all its black and white glory:
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And here's the mock-up for comparison:
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EDIT: I also need to draw in where the power cable/battery connects at the back of the receiver.


Sorry i cant resist.

Parts Involved: F2K Body (Easy) ACR Butstock thingie on top The Barrel is a .50 Cal that has been enlarged and cut And a mix of ACR Flip up sights and an ACOG. I think XD
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Postby Ularn » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:24 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Ularn wrote:Think that's the tracing pretty much done for the THR-288. A fair bit of tweaking still to be done (not quite happy with the stock or the curve of the seam where the barrel merges with the receiver, and like I said there will be side-mounted rails) but I'll get onto that when I start colouring. In the mean time, here it is in all its black and white glory:
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And here's the mock-up for comparison:
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EDIT: I also need to draw in where the power cable/battery connects at the back of the receiver.


Sorry i cant resist.

Parts Involved: F2K Body (Easy) ACR Butstock thingie on top The Barrel is a .50 Cal that has been enlarged and cut And a mix of ACR Flip up sights and an ACOG. I think XD

The barrel was actually a gas tube from something with a few gas blocks in front and all scaled up. The scope (which I'll lineart some other time) was an Elcan Spectre with a scope and holo/red dot sight whose names I can't remember or be bothered looking up :P
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Postby Garrystan » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:32 pm

The standard sidearm for both military and police is the CZ 52.

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The standard military rifle is the Vz 58.

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The Beretta M12 is the preferred submachine gun for both police and military.

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Postby Athagos » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:45 pm

Munaless Industries H35 Assault Rifle

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Action: Gas-operated, select-fire
Cartridge: 5.45x39mm
Rate of Fire: 900 rpm
Feed System: 20- and 30-round box magazine

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Postby Mosasauria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:46 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Stoner with Sleight of Hand, Extended Mag and Scavenger was just beast mode on Black Ops.

I preferred FAL with Masterkey, Sleight of Hand, Scavenger, and Ninja. Combine it with the China Lake for a secondary and you've got a one-man army.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:48 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Stoner with Sleight of Hand, Extended Mag and Scavenger was just beast mode on Black Ops.

I preferred FAL with Masterkey, Sleight of Hand, Scavenger, and Ninja. Combine it with the China Lake for a secondary and you've got a one-man army.

I find that semi-automatics consistently lose out to automatics in CoD, in other words - every other firearm.
It was depressing, actually. I liked the semi-autos.
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Postby Mosasauria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:08 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I preferred FAL with Masterkey, Sleight of Hand, Scavenger, and Ninja. Combine it with the China Lake for a secondary and you've got a one-man army.

I find that semi-automatics consistently lose out to automatics in CoD, in other words - every other firearm.
It was depressing, actually. I liked the semi-autos.

I find semi-auto to be grossly unrepresented in video games. For being the most used firing mode in real life, it's rarely used in games.
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Postby Mosasauria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:10 pm

I've got a proposal for anyone who's good with Lineart weapons and has quite a bit of time on their hands.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:29 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I find that semi-automatics consistently lose out to automatics in CoD, in other words - every other firearm.
It was depressing, actually. I liked the semi-autos.

I find semi-auto to be grossly unrepresented in video games. For being the most used firing mode in real life, it's rarely used in games.

Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.

The exception being both Operation Flashpoints (Dragon Rising and Red River). Give the AI SAW gunner an M249, he's shite. Give him a Mk48, he's suddenly attained long-range marksmanship on par with the M14/39-equipped sniper.
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Postby Bafuria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:31 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I find that semi-automatics consistently lose out to automatics in CoD, in other words - every other firearm.
It was depressing, actually. I liked the semi-autos.

I find semi-auto to be grossly unrepresented in video games. For being the most used firing mode in real life, it's rarely used in games.


Semi-auto is very effective in CoD if you stay behind cover and fire at opponents who are also behind cover, which happens occasionally.

But when you sprint from room to room with no regard to your own life like most CoD players do, a full auto weapon is far more effective. This is something no sane person would do in real life.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:33 pm

Bafuria wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I find semi-auto to be grossly unrepresented in video games. For being the most used firing mode in real life, it's rarely used in games.


Semi-auto is very effective in CoD if you stay behind cover and fire at opponents who are also behind cover, which happens occasionally.

But when you sprint from room to room with no regard to your own life like most CoD players do, a full auto weapon is far more effective. This is something no sane person would do in real life.

Which is why people play games instead.

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Postby Bafuria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:34 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I find semi-auto to be grossly unrepresented in video games. For being the most used firing mode in real life, it's rarely used in games.

Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.


The difference isn't that dramatic between intermediates and full power cartridges in real life, at least when it comes to stopping/killing power.
Full power cartridges have far better range and penetration. Those are their main advantages.

What annoys me is that it usually takes two shots to the head to kill. :palm:
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Postby Bafuria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:34 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Bafuria wrote:
Semi-auto is very effective in CoD if you stay behind cover and fire at opponents who are also behind cover, which happens occasionally.

But when you sprint from room to room with no regard to your own life like most CoD players do, a full auto weapon is far more effective. This is something no sane person would do in real life.

Which is why people play games instead.


Exactly.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:35 pm

Bafuria wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.


The difference isn't that dramatic between intermediates and full power cartridges in real life.

What annoys me is that it usually takes two shots to the head to kill. :palm:

It's annoying because the game prides itself on realism.

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Postby Bafuria » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:41 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Bafuria wrote:
The difference isn't that dramatic between intermediates and full power cartridges in real life.

What annoys me is that it usually takes two shots to the head to kill. :palm:

It's annoying because the game prides itself on realism.


IMO a realistic game would have a health bar that gradually depletes as the opponent bleeds out. More shots result in faster depletion.
They would also have a fatigue/pain bar which depletes with hits, nearby explosions and flashbangs, which causes incapacitation. This bar would replenish itself though.
Bullet placement would of course have to be taken into account.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:43 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Bafuria wrote:
Semi-auto is very effective in CoD if you stay behind cover and fire at opponents who are also behind cover, which happens occasionally.

But when you sprint from room to room with no regard to your own life like most CoD players do, a full auto weapon is far more effective. This is something no sane person would do in real life.

Which is why people play games instead.


I dunno bout that, I have found that CQB is an intense adrenaline rush. Funny enough, the only thing that comes close is urban paintball using simunitions.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:52 pm

Bafuria wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.


The difference isn't that dramatic between intermediates and full power cartridges in real life, at least when it comes to stopping/killing power.
Full power cartridges have far better range and penetration. Those are their main advantages.

What annoys me is that it usually takes two shots to the head to kill. :palm:

Apparently, it's more down to the bullet than the cartridge. According to a study of Israeli IDF casualties (bizarrely not taking into account number of wounds sustained, just the type of round), 7.62x51 and 7.62x54R were both fatal in 52-54% of cases, while 7.62x39 was fatal in 48% of casualties.
I don't remember where 5.56 came in, but is was lower down the list. Note how three different (though two similar) .30cal cartridges were all in the same rough ballpark of fatality - again, not considering the effect of multiple wounds, etc.

I'm struggling to find the document myself, I don't remember where it came from.
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Postby Coltarin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:56 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I find semi-auto to be grossly unrepresented in video games. For being the most used firing mode in real life, it's rarely used in games.

Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.

The exception being both Operation Flashpoints (Dragon Rising and Red River). Give the AI SAW gunner an M249, he's shite. Give him a Mk48, he's suddenly attained long-range marksmanship on par with the M14/39-equipped sniper.

I like the FAL in real life, it's one of the most widely used weapons in the world, basically an Ak for NATO, but half the time in CoD I was wondering why the hell is it semi auto and why the hell am I doing less damage than a fucking gun that fires a 4mm round ala G11
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Postby Graditora » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:01 pm

Coltarin wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.

The exception being both Operation Flashpoints (Dragon Rising and Red River). Give the AI SAW gunner an M249, he's shite. Give him a Mk48, he's suddenly attained long-range marksmanship on par with the M14/39-equipped sniper.

I like the FAL in real life, it's one of the most widely used weapons in the world, basically an Ak for NATO, but half the time in CoD I was wondering why the hell is it semi auto and why the hell am I doing less damage than a fucking gun that fires a 4mm round ala G11

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:06 pm

Coltarin wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Also how no .30cal weapon acts like a .30cal weapon.

I didn't even know the FAL was 7.62x51 back then, because its damage was always so similar to assault rifles chambered in intermediates.
Damned game balancing.

The exception being both Operation Flashpoints (Dragon Rising and Red River). Give the AI SAW gunner an M249, he's shite. Give him a Mk48, he's suddenly attained long-range marksmanship on par with the M14/39-equipped sniper.

I like the FAL in real life, it's one of the most widely used weapons in the world, basically an Ak for NATO, but half the time in CoD I was wondering why the hell is it semi auto and why the hell am I doing less damage than a fucking gun that fires a 4mm round ala G11

Because the G11 fires three bullets in the time it takes an FAL to fire one.
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