Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. IV) The Proper Un

[Ularn]

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Mmmm....

SUSAT...

Designation - Assault Rifle
Weight - 4.6kg (loaded)
Length - 31"
Cyclic RoF - 650rpm
Fire Types - Semi-Automatic and Fully Automatic
Method of Feed - 30 round Detachable Box magazines
Maximum Recommended Combat Range - 400m
Barrel Length - 20.5"
Calibre - 7x43mm (7 mm MK1Z/.280 Enfield)

Comments?

To be honest with you, Kouralia, you're good enough at making PMG guns that I'm surprised you haven't tried drawing one of your own from scratch. If you download Paint.net (for free!) then you can trace the guns you design with PMG and then modify them as much as you like on your own without being confined by the program's constraints. That's how I made this from this. I reckon the end product looks at leas as pretty and you get more freedom to make the weapon your own. With the amount of work you already put into blending your designs I reckon it wouldn't take much longer to do either.

Also, you'd get way more respect points just for putting in the effort and I'm pretty sure you could pull it off if you gave it a go.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Ularn, that PDW makes me think a little of this bad boy:

FYI, I've already called being able to make my own weapon based upon this

Also, as a sub-note, the AR-1, AR-2, AR-3 rifles and the CS-1 shotgun all begin as PMG that were traced and then modified (heavily).

[Ea90]

Also, as a sub-note, the AR-1, AR-2, AR-3 rifles and the CS-1 shotgun all begin as PMG that were traced and then modified (heavily).

How much of your new AR1 art remains from the PMG?

[Kouralia]

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Mmmm....

SUSAT...

Designation - Assault Rifle
Weight - 4.6kg (loaded)
Length - 31"
Cyclic RoF - 650rpm
Fire Types - Semi-Automatic and Fully Automatic
Method of Feed - 30 round Detachable Box magazines
Maximum Recommended Combat Range - 400m
Barrel Length - 20.5"
Calibre - 7x43mm (7 mm MK1Z/.280 Enfield)

Comments?

To be honest with you, Kouralia, you're good enough at making PMG guns that I'm surprised you haven't tried drawing one of your own from scratch. If you download Paint.net (for free!) then you can trace the guns you design with PMG and then modify them as much as you like on your own without being confined by the program's constraints. That's how I made this from this. I reckon the end product looks at leas as pretty and you get more freedom to make the weapon your own. With the amount of work you already put into blending your designs I reckon it wouldn't take much longer to do either.

Also, you'd get way more respect points just for putting in the effort and I'm pretty sure you could pull it off if you gave it a go.

Thanks, I'll give it a go though I can't guarantee the results'll be pretty...

[Ularn]

Ularn, that PDW makes me think a little of this bad boy:
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FYI, I've already called being able to make my own weapon based upon this

Also, as a sub-note, the AR-1, AR-2, AR-3 rifles and the CS-1 shotgun all begin as PMG that were traced and then modified (heavily).

That looks pretty sweet. The only thing I would wonder about is how the telescoping barrel would work. One end is going to have to be bigger than the other or it to fit inside when collapsed, which means a lot of the expanding gasses would escape around the bullet when it's moving through the larger part so you're not really increasing muzzle velocity or accuracy by having it. It was one of the reasons I gave up on using this idea (info in the description) for my troops.

That, and I realised that a UGL already filled the same role while probably being smaller, lighter and not necessitating the trooper carrying a whole additional weapon, which freed up carry space for other things. Also, a UGL could be re-usable. It's a shame really, since I loved the concept.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Ularn, that PDW makes me think a little of this bad boy:
(Image)
FYI, I've already called being able to make my own weapon based upon this

Also, as a sub-note, the AR-1, AR-2, AR-3 rifles and the CS-1 shotgun all begin as PMG that were traced and then modified (heavily).

That looks pretty sweet. The only thing I would wonder about is how the telescoping barrel would work. One end is going to have to be bigger than the other or it to fit inside when collapsed, which means a lot of the expanding gasses would escape around the bullet when it's moving through the larger part so you're not really increasing muzzle velocity or accuracy by having it. It was one of the reasons I gave up on using this idea (info in the description) for my troops.

That, and I realised that a UGL already filled the same role while probably being smaller, lighter and not necessitating a whole additional weapon. Also, a UGL could be re-usable. It's a shame really, since I loved the concept.

What I would have imagined is that the entire barrel, cycling, feed systems all rest upon the bolt, and they all move backwards as one module, compressing the bolt's spring against the back of the weapon to a locking point.

Also, as a sub-note, the AR-1, AR-2, AR-3 rifles and the CS-1 shotgun all begin as PMG that were traced and then modified (heavily).

How much of your new AR1 art remains from the PMG?

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Absolutely nothing.
I did say modified heavily :')
Though the AR-1 was redrawn completely from scratch with a 'real' basis. Since the AR-2 is based upon the Sig 556 receiver, and the AR-3 is still fairly aesthetically similar to the earlier AR-3 linearts, there's not that much difference there.

Although this no longer looks anything like this or this. Not sure, but I think the first one (minus the top rail) looks the best of the two.

[Ularn]

To be honest with you, Kouralia, you're good enough at making PMG guns that I'm surprised you haven't tried drawing one of your own from scratch. If you download Paint.net (for free!) then you can trace the guns you design with PMG and then modify them as much as you like on your own without being confined by the program's constraints. That's how I made this from this. I reckon the end product looks at leas as pretty and you get more freedom to make the weapon your own. With the amount of work you already put into blending your designs I reckon it wouldn't take much longer to do either.

Also, you'd get way more respect points just for putting in the effort and I'm pretty sure you could pull it off if you gave it a go.

Thanks, I'll give it a go though I can't guarantee the results'll be pretty...

It takes a bit of practice. That was the first time I'd traced a mock-up from PMG but I'd already tried colouring one or two linearts. I also cheated a little by copying the shaded colour bars from PMG and using them as colour palettes or copy-pasting and then resizing them to fit into the curved portions since otherwise there's no way I could have done gradients like those on my own.

[Ularn]

That looks pretty sweet. The only thing I would wonder about is how the telescoping barrel would work. One end is going to have to be bigger than the other or it to fit inside when collapsed, which means a lot of the expanding gasses would escape around the bullet when it's moving through the larger part so you're not really increasing muzzle velocity or accuracy by having it. It was one of the reasons I gave up on using this idea (info in the description) for my troops.

That, and I realised that a UGL already filled the same role while probably being smaller, lighter and not necessitating a whole additional weapon. Also, a UGL could be re-usable. It's a shame really, since I loved the concept.

What I would have imagined is that the entire barrel, cycling, feed systems all rest upon the bolt, and they all move backwards as one module, compressing the bolt's spring against the back of the weapon to a locking point.

Ah, so it won't actually fire unless it's unfolded? One of the things I liked about my machine pistol was it could be fired collapsed like a regular pistol if the user didn't have time to unfold it or just wanted to feel gangsta.

[The Planet of Scalia]

[Ularn]

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Needs a stock if you're going to get any sort of accuracy from it.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

It looks like it might have a retractable stock.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

What I would have imagined is that the entire barrel, cycling, feed systems all rest upon the bolt, and they all move backwards as one module, compressing the bolt's spring against the back of the weapon to a locking point.

Ah, so it won't actually fire unless it's unfolded? One of the things I liked about my machine pistol was it could be fired collapsed like a regular pistol if the user didn't have time to unfold it or just wanted to feel gangsta.

Well, that's just a sliding foregrip, which allows that to occur. With this, the barrel itself retracts.

[Ularn]

Ah, so it won't actually fire unless it's unfolded? One of the things I liked about my machine pistol was it could be fired collapsed like a regular pistol if the user didn't have time to unfold it or just wanted to feel gangsta.

Well, that's just a sliding foregrip, which allows that to occur. With this, the barrel itself retracts.

Exactly - hence why I figured the sliding foregrip was a better option since neither one actually gives you any extra barrel length. On the other hand, yours is a bit more elegant for the additional complicatedness of it.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Well, that's just a sliding foregrip, which allows that to occur. With this, the barrel itself retracts.

Exactly - hence why I figured the sliding foregrip was a better option since neither one actually gives you any extra barrel length. On the other hand, yours is a bit more elegant for the additional complicatedness of it.

Yours only loses a couple of centimetres from the foregrip that overhangs the muzzle brake, this loses close to 15cm from physically shortening the barrel.

[Ularn]

Exactly - hence why I figured the sliding foregrip was a better option since neither one actually gives you any extra barrel length. On the other hand, yours is a bit more elegant for the additional complicatedness of it.

Yours only loses a couple of centimetres from the foregrip that overhangs the muzzle brake, this loses close to 15cm from physically shortening the barrel.

True, and I suppose if you're aiming for compactness then it's probably a worthwhile option, and one I might even have used myself if I were making an MT weapon instead of a railgun where I don't have to worry about the bolt.

[Yes Im Biop]

Indeed: and Hitler didn't really give a toss, despite his policies.

Well, he did. Hummingbird (Kolibri) was largely to remove the SA because of how excessively violent and uncontrollable they'd become, but also served as excellent pretext to remove the homosexual and other 'undesirable' commanders within both the Brown and Black Shirts.
Although, one of Hitler's highest commanders (it may well have been Goring) was of Jewish descent, and Hitler forced his mother to sign an affidavit stating she was not Jewish (or that Goring was not her child, I don't recall which), in order for Hitler to retain him, on the basis he was chief of the air force.

But don't confuse him w/ DynamicPara...

Oh, please God, no.

Huh? *brain overheats* Danmnit!

[Yes Im Biop]

Yours only loses a couple of centimetres from the foregrip that overhangs the muzzle brake, this loses close to 15cm from physically shortening the barrel.

True, and I suppose if you're aiming for compactness then it's probably a worthwhile option, and one I might even have used myself if I were making an MT weapon instead of a railgun where I don't have to worry about the bolt.

Couldbnt a Gauss Gun work as well? they dont have the problem of the Rails melting together...Though i guess that can be solved by High heat Super conducters and a niftly heat sink or cooling system.

[Risen Britannia]

True, and I suppose if you're aiming for compactness then it's probably a worthwhile option, and one I might even have used myself if I were making an MT weapon instead of a railgun where I don't have to worry about the bolt.

Couldbnt a Gauss Gun work as well? they dont have the problem of the Rails melting together...Though i guess that can be solved by High heat Super conducters and a niftly heat sink or cooling system.

Coil-guns have their own issues

[Plong]

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[Kouralia]

http://www.moddb.com/members/swedishplayer-97/images/weaponry#imagebox

There are a number of issues with these weapons (from missing bolts, to bad blending to incorrect part attachment). May I recommend you have a peek at the PMG Usage guide in my signature? It will really help if you wish to continue doing this kind of stuff.

[Plong]

http://www.moddb.com/members/swedishplayer-97/images/weaponry#imagebox

There are a number of issues with these weapons (from missing bolts, to bad blending to incorrect part attachment). May I recommend you have a peek at the PMG Usage guide in my signature? It will really help if you wish to continue doing this kind of stuff.

Then again, they are stolen and modified in Plong. Have you every been to Plong. Nah just kidding. Nice to meet you.

[Kouralia]

There are a number of issues with these weapons (from missing bolts, to bad blending to incorrect part attachment). May I recommend you have a peek at the PMG Usage guide in my signature? It will really help if you wish to continue doing this kind of stuff.

Then again, they are stolen and modified in Plong. Have you every been to Plong. Nah just kidding. Nice to meet you.

Likewise, but don't try to give that excuse with these. Unless Plong modifies weapons by removing all capacity for it to physically fire.

[Plong]

Maybe... arrgh! Whatever I do is wrong. Sorry, whatever my NATION does is wrong...

[Fischermann]

All my weapons are Brownshirts.

So... SA?

Am I the only one who uses his native language's terms?

OT-57 is literally Automatic Rifle 57.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

So... SA?

Am I the only one who uses his native language's terms?

OT-57 is literally Automatic Rifle 57.

Well...
I really shouldn't, but every term in my inventory is actually English (so I am using my native language, but not my nation's language).
They ought to be Russian.

So, SA-AR (Samozniy Arms Assault Rifle) ought to be SV-SV (Samozniy Vooruzhenie - Shturmovaya Vintovka) while SW-HAV (Samozniy Workshops - Heavy Armoured Vehicle) ought to actually be SS-TBA (Samozniy Seminary - Tyazhelyĭ Bronirovannyĭ Avtomobilʹʹ), at least according to google.
This would cause issues, as both Assault Rifle and Sniper Rifle, when translated and abbreviated, are SV.