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Postby Risen Britannia » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:00 pm

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:08 pm

Marines to start using tactical iPads, lul

Still, 80lbs of maps in the cockpit? wut? How did this never cotton on before?

Also, just realised how similar my style is to yours now, RB.
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Postby Indeos » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:11 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:(Image)
Anti-Material Super Carbine (but still with a 460mm accelerator)


Mind if this series canonically exists in Indeos? It's possibly my favorite railgun design ever. (I should just ask if I can ICly import all Risen Brittanian firearms...I love your art style.)
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Postby RandomNessVille » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:25 pm

My weapons:

Main Infantry Weapon: Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) M1918

Sub-Machinegun: PPSh-41

Light Machinegun: BREN Mark 2

Heavy Machinegun: M2HB

Vehicle Machinegun: M134

Sidearm: Colt M1911

Sniper: Mauser Model 1908 (JK JK JK Its the Steyr SSG 69)

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Postby Risen Britannia » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:26 pm

Indeos wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:(Image)
Anti-Material Super Carbine (but still with a 460mm accelerator)


Mind if this series canonically exists in Indeos? It's possibly my favorite railgun design ever. (I should just ask if I can ICly import all Risen Brittanian firearms...I love your art style.)
Feel free, and thanks for the compliment. I don't think IC is necessary here.
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Risen Britannia wrote:personally i would do something like this
(Image)

For sale? no. However all my designs can be used freely if people ask first.

Can I use your excellent Railgun and SMG designs?

Yes you may. Like with Indeos, feel free and thanks for the compliment.
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Also, just realised how similar my style is to yours now, RB.

I think its more of a case of my style being similar to yours samo. :p

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At the moment im working on a flechette canister round for my R.11 (railgun), that would carry 24 3x55mm flechettes. The canister would be fired like a normal shot, but at a set distance (25m?) from the target it would split sending the flechette flying out.
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Postby Senestrum » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:27 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Also, just realised how similar my style is to yours now, RB.


And both of you are stylistically reminiscent of my pre-coloring raw lineart. :p
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Postby Indeos » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:43 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Mind if this series canonically exists in Indeos? It's possibly my favorite railgun design ever. (I should just ask if I can ICly import all Risen Brittanian firearms...I love your art style.)
Feel free, and thanks for the compliment. I don't think IC is necessary here.

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At the moment im working on a flechette canister round for my R.11 (railgun), that would carry 24 3x55mm flechettes. The canister would be fired like a normal shot, but at a set distance (25m?) from the target it would split sending the flechette flying out.


1. I meant ask if I could say they were all imported, but you already answered that so nbd on my awful wording.
2. That sounds like it would suck to get hit with. I'd make it programmable, so operators can get lolrange out of the munitions without risking high spread.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:16 pm

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Risen Britannia wrote:Feel free, and thanks for the compliment. I don't think IC is necessary here.

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At the moment im working on a flechette canister round for my R.11 (railgun), that would carry 24 3x55mm flechettes. The canister would be fired like a normal shot, but at a set distance (25m?) from the target it would split sending the flechette flying out.


1. I meant ask if I could say they were all imported, but you already answered that so nbd on my awful wording.
2. That sounds like it would suck to get hit with. I'd make it programmable, so operators can get lolrange out of the munitions without risking high spread.

1- Ah ok, yes IC importing would be fine
2- I have planned to include a built in range finder on all my rail-guns, so that the on board computer can process the data and program the round accordingly (like the XM25).

The scope I had on the larger version I posted a few pages back also processes the range, gravity, atmospheric density and elevation of the shot. Adjusting the power and how the round flies to keep it on target.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:16 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
On the AR-10, I've heard that it has a tendency to jamb under repeated firing. However I have also heard that this problem can be over come with some simple changes to the gas-spring what you macall it. (sorry can't remember name of piece just remember that the person said the problem was fixable)

The AR-10 is direct impingement, it has no gas spring or piston.


The reason the AR-10 jams is because, if the article I read in a magazine is to be believed, the round (.308) is unsuited for the system. However, the "gas spring" you speak of is the buffer spring located in the stock of the rifle. It can be swapped for a heavier or lighter one, and that will improve your functionality. Someone also mentioned adjusting a gas plug: not possible with the AR-series of rifles. Reducing the size of the gas tube aperture would cause short-cycles. It was mentioned, "increase the pressure on the bolt group, but reduce the particulate that makes its way into the system[....]" This is untrue. If you reduce the amount of gas entering the receiver to contact the bolt carrier, then there is less force to move it rearwards. Less force means more frequent short-cycles and that means your bolt carrier could go back to eject a round (if that) and then just go forward and the next thing you hear is a "click." Worst case scenario is turning your rifle into a bolt-action.

Using a hotter round will reduce the chances of short-cycling significantly, but you will need a heavy buffer tube/spring for this unless you want your receiver to beat itself to death.





Person whose name I forgot... anyway, they wrote:but anyways.

So, I'm thinking of making a wooden bullpup abomination which will mix elements from the F2000 and my OT-57. Thoughts? I'll try to make it as beautiful as possible.


It'll still make Indeos angry with F2000 shenanigans, but I'm looking forward to see the result. :p

I also didn't think anyone outside of /k/ raged at the Clip/Mag distinction, but I'm sure it's a matter of personal preference when it comes down to it. 8)


I use clips to feed my M48. I use magazines to feed my AK. There is a distinction -- a major distinction -- and before you ask: I've never been to "/k/." If you're wanting a clip for an AK, I'm going to give you a tiny piece of metal that's holding ten rounds of 7.62x39mm by the base of their cases. If you ask for a magazine for an AK, I'll ask you, "Ten, twenty, thirty, forty, or seventy-five rounds?"
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Postby Indeos » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:24 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Indeos wrote:
1. I meant ask if I could say they were all imported, but you already answered that so nbd on my awful wording.
2. That sounds like it would suck to get hit with. I'd make it programmable, so operators can get lolrange out of the munitions without risking high spread.

1- Ah ok, yes IC importing would be fine
2- I have planned to include a built in range finder on all my rail-guns, so that the on board computer can process the data and program the round accordingly (like the XM25).

The scope I had on the larger version I posted a few pages back also processes the range, gravity, atmospheric density and elevation of the shot. Adjusting the power and how the round flies to keep it on target.


Ah. That's a good solution. I don't know why I forgot about the scope you'd posted, though.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:30 pm

Thinking about limited issue for the 1216 beside my standard issue 12 gauge. Maybe I'll use the multi-tube design in a shotgun of my own.
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Postby Bajireyn » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:39 pm

A few minor updates.

I have no idea what to do for the scope.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:41 pm

barrel is a tad thin
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Postby Bajireyn » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:45 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:barrel is a tad thin

I'll fix that whenever i'm feeling less lazy.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:47 pm

Bajireyn wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:barrel is a tad thin

I'll fix that whenever i'm feeling less lazy.


Thicken the barrel to make it about 2.5 or 3.0 times its current size and it should be alright for a fighting carbine. As for an optic, I'd just go with an ACOG that your company domestically produces that happens to be calibrated to the ammunition loads you use. ;)

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Postby Bajireyn » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:50 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:I'll fix that whenever i'm feeling less lazy.


Thicken the barrel to make it about 2.5 or 3.0 times its current size and it should be alright for a fighting carbine. As for an optic, I'd just go with an ACOG that your company domestically produces that happens to be calibrated to the ammunition loads you use. ;)

1. The weapon is a DMR though it could probably be modified for use as a battle rifle and not a carbine.
2. Thanks for the help on the barrel width and scopes.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:55 pm

If its a DMR, triple the barrel width and give it a conventional, variable-power scope. 4x-16x should work for any situation.

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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:05 pm

make it shoot 25mm airburst grenades and give it a day/night 10x thermal sight with an integrated ballistics computer (like bors with laser rangefinder, barometric sensor, temperature sensor, muzzle reference sensor, etc. etc.)

because this is ns
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:12 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:make it shoot 25mm fin stabilised, airburst grenades and give it a day/night thermal sight with an integrated ballistics computer (like bors with laser rangefinder, barometric sensor, temperature sensor, muzzle reference sensor, etc. etc.)

for maximum marksmaning

I think I've seen this somewhere before...
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:13 pm

I suggest .338 Lapau fired in 25-round bursts. No semi-automatic function.

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Postby Indeos » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:14 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:make it shoot 25mm fin stabilised, airburst grenades and give it a day/night thermal sight with an integrated ballistics computer (like bors with laser rangefinder, barometric sensor, temperature sensor, muzzle reference sensor, etc. etc.)

for maximum marksmaning


I was going to say grenades might bee too short-ranged, then I remembered the Barrett XM109.
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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:15 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:make it shoot 25mm fin stabilised, airburst grenades and give it a day/night thermal sight with an integrated ballistics computer (like bors with laser rangefinder, barometric sensor, temperature sensor, muzzle reference sensor, etc. etc.)

for maximum marksmaning

I think I've seen this somewhere before...


payload rifle + PAS-13?

tho im not sure if BORS was going to be integrated into an actual scope or not

Spreewerke wrote:I suggest .338 Lapau fired in 25-round bursts. No semi-automatic function.


my idea was serious tbh

although at that point it would be less of a designated marksman and more of a long-range grenadier

Indeos wrote:
The Soviet Technocracy wrote:make it shoot 25mm fin stabilised, airburst grenades and give it a day/night thermal sight with an integrated ballistics computer (like bors with laser rangefinder, barometric sensor, temperature sensor, muzzle reference sensor, etc. etc.)

for maximum marksmaning


I was going to say grenades might bee too short-ranged, then I remembered the Barrett XM109.


mk 19 has an effective range of somewhere around 1.5km which puts it squarely in heavy machine gun territory
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:26 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:I think I've seen this somewhere before...


payload rifle + PAS-13?

tho im not sure if BORS was going to be integrated into an actual scope or not

Spreewerke wrote:I suggest .338 Lapau fired in 25-round bursts. No semi-automatic function.


my idea was serious tbh

although at that point it would be less of a designated marksman and more of a long-range grenadier

Indeos wrote:
I was going to say grenades might bee too short-ranged, then I remembered the Barrett XM109.


mk 19 has an effective range of somewhere around 1.5km which puts it squarely in heavy machine gun territory


IIRC one of the other big optics players (bushnells possibly) has a sporting/hunting scope with the laser range finder and the automatic aimpoint adjustment stuff built on the market as we speak
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:28 pm

The Soviet Technocracy wrote:
Indeos wrote:
I was going to say grenades might bee too short-ranged, then I remembered the Barrett XM109.


mk 19 has an effective range of somewhere around 1.5km which puts it squarely in heavy machine gun territory

If you can accurately fire an HMG for 1.5km you are Trombley.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:30 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The AR-10 is direct impingement, it has no gas spring or piston.


The reason the AR-10 jams is because, if the article I read in a magazine is to be believed, the round (.308) is unsuited for the system. However, the "gas spring" you speak of is the buffer spring located in the stock of the rifle. It can be swapped for a heavier or lighter one, and that will improve your functionality. Someone also mentioned adjusting a gas plug: not possible with the AR-series of rifles. Reducing the size of the gas tube aperture would cause short-cycles. It was mentioned, "increase the pressure on the bolt group, but reduce the particulate that makes its way into the system[....]" This is untrue. If you reduce the amount of gas entering the receiver to contact the bolt carrier, then there is less force to move it rearwards. Less force means more frequent short-cycles and that means your bolt carrier could go back to eject a round (if that) and then just go forward and the next thing you hear is a "click." Worst case scenario is turning your rifle into a bolt-action.

Using a hotter round will reduce the chances of short-cycling significantly, but you will need a heavy buffer tube/spring for this unless you want your receiver to beat itself to death.

The common internet feeling is the exact opposite, that the .308 is far better for the AR-10/15 'family' than the .223, because .308 is more likely to fully burn than .223, for whatever reason.
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