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Postby Estainia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:18 pm

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Estainia wrote:Hello...My assault rifle is...Hold one. Seventy one years old with seventy years in service; I need a replacement; DO NOT BOMBARD ME WITH REQUESTS TO GO TO ANEMOS'S STOREFRONT OR LYRAS'S, K? K. Now.

Suggestions?

Thank you for your time, in advance.


Hmm...What exactly are you replacing, and what are you looking for?


An StG-44 knock off with a marginally better (read: the mosin round) in it.

Preferably something in a traditional layout with a decent stopping power, easily usable, reliable and I don't have to replace every time a grain of sand gets into the assembly.
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Postby Gawdzendia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:20 pm

Estainia wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Hmm...What exactly are you replacing, and what are you looking for?


An StG-44 knock off with a marginally better (read: the mosin round) in it.

Preferably something in a traditional layout with a decent stopping power, easily usable, reliable and I don't have to replace every time a grain of sand gets into the assembly.


Well that excludes all my weapons. Mostly for the usable part.

uhmm.... FN FAL.
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Postby The Grendels » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:23 pm

Bullpups are generally used by school crossing guards in the Grendels.
“In off the moor, down through the mist bands,
God-cursed Grendel came, greedily loping.
The bane of the race of men roamed forth, hunting for a prey."

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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:25 pm

Estainia wrote:
Indeos wrote:
Hmm...What exactly are you replacing, and what are you looking for?


An StG-44 knock off with a marginally better (read: the mosin round) in it.

Preferably something in a traditional layout with a decent stopping power, easily usable, reliable and I don't have to replace every time a grain of sand gets into the assembly.


Er...you know that the StG-44 fired an extremely shorter version of the 7.92 round, scaling back up to the 7.2x54R round would present problems.

Doesn't matter now, since you're gonna replace it.

H&K 416?

M4 style rifle with H&K reliability, can be realistically chambered in 5.56, 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel. Also, the Hk417 could be chambered in .308, which, with adjustment, could fire that Mosin round you're using now.

Also in .308 come the older G-3 and FN FAL, excellent battle rifles, if not a bit old. I'm fairly sure neither one of those are maintenance hogs.

it doesn't get much easier than the AK series, the AK-12 (5.45x39) comes in synthetic black and actually has rails :o

AK-10...something is chambered in 7.62x39 if you want an AK in a larger round....they also have attachments for rails and lost the wood back in the 1990's

Oh, oh, jumping back again, AR-10! For the win! Specifically the 1995 and forward version discussed in the article
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Estainia
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Postby Estainia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:28 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Estainia wrote:
An StG-44 knock off with a marginally better (read: the mosin round) in it.

Preferably something in a traditional layout with a decent stopping power, easily usable, reliable and I don't have to replace every time a grain of sand gets into the assembly.


Er...you know that the StG-44 fired an extremely shorter version of the 6/.92 round, scaling back up to the 7.2x54R round would present problems.

Doesn't matter now, since you're gonna replace it.

H&K 416?

M4 style rifle with H&K reliability, can be realistically chambered in 5.56, 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel. Also, the Hk417 could be chambered in .308, which, with adjustment, could fire that Mosin round you're using now.

Also in .308 come the older G-3 and FN FAL, excellent battle rifles, if not a bit old. I'm fairly sure neither one of those are maintenance hogs.

it doesn't get much easier than the AK series, the AK-12 (5.45x39) comes in synthetic black and actually has rails :o

AK-10...something is chambered in 7.62x39 if you want an AK in a larger round....they also have attachments for rails and lost the wood back in the 1990's

Oh, oh, jumping back again, AR-10! For the win!


"Based on" would've been perhaps a better choice of words but yes I'm aware of the Kurz round.

I'll look into each of these; thanks.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:30 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Oh, oh, jumping back again, AR-10! For the win!


On the AR-10, I've heard that it has a tendency to jamb under repeated firing. However I have also heard that this problem can be over come with some simple changes to the gas-spring what you macall it. (sorry can't remember name of piece just remember that the person said the problem was fixable)
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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:32 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
Oh, oh, jumping back again, AR-10! For the win!


On the AR-10, I've heard that it has a tendency to jamb under repeated firing. However I have also heard that this problem can be over come with some simple changes to the gas-spring what you macall it. (sorry can't remember name of piece just remember that the person said the problem was fixable)


I have no practical experience with one, you may be right. I wonder if the new run models worked that out, since it resumed civilian and LEO production in '95.

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Postby Drugishlavia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:41 pm

You cant go wrong with AUGs. Then all you need at you side are spair clips and your handy dandy Tac. knife.

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Postby Coltarin » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:58 pm

Tiny lol
constructive comments please
it fires a 6.8x45
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Postby Gawdzendia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:50 pm

Coltarin wrote:Tiny lol
constructive comments please
it fires a 6.8x45
2.5 feet
body is a plasticine case with a inner metallic lining of aircraft grade aluminum


I've always liked your works, this is no exception. It follows the (imho) lovely aesthetics of a traditional bullpup, with the sleek look of the future. Looking into this picture, how is your ammo stored? It looks like it might be telescoped like the G11's rounds, but considering you have an ejection port, I doubt they are caseless.

Out of curiosity, why is the second knife so lolhueg at one end?

Now something new to make my 500th post something special. Bam. Since we needed a Gyrojet Sniper Rifle so badly. Shown without preferred optics, with wooden furniture. The weapon is issued in such limited quantities to my armed forces, they can afford to have wood furniture.*
Five round box magazine, with a grip built into either side (to allow not awkward mag removal).

EDIT: Some additional info, bolt action was chosen because the way the prototype gyrojets 'ignited' their ammo was, imho, really dumb.
...which rotates back and hits the nose of a rocket, pushing it toward the stationary firing pin. Primer in the base of a rocket ignites the rocket charge, and sends the projectile accelerating down the "barrel" tube. This movement cocks the hammer and also frees the space for next rocket to rise from magazine into firing position.
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In addition, since the aforementioned is dumb, there is not enough initial energy (like from a standard cartridge) to use gas to have a semi-automatic variant. Hence, bolt-action.

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Risen Britannia
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Postby Risen Britannia » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:43 am

UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:.

personally i would do something like this
Image
Bajireyn wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:(Image)
now with scope/range finder/magic box of tricks.

Also the battery can now support 12 shots before being depleted

Are these by any chance for sale?

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Postby Ularn » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:21 am

UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:(Image)

The MA50A ICWS "Valkyrie" Assault Rifle

Opinions?

Looks like you slapped some Mass Effect logos and colour schemes on the Halo assault rifle. trollface.jpg
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Postby Coltarin » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:35 am

Risen Britannia wrote:
UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:.

personally i would do something like this
Image

Still what the hell is with the tube at the front of the rifle under the barrel?
Gawdzendia wrote:
Coltarin wrote:Tiny lol
constructive comments please
it fires a 6.8x45
2.5 feet
body is a plasticine case with a inner metallic lining of aircraft grade aluminum


I've always liked your works, this is no exception. It follows the (imho) lovely aesthetics of a traditional bullpup, with the sleek look of the future. Looking into this picture, how is your ammo stored? It looks like it might be telescoped like the G11's rounds, but considering you have an ejection port, I doubt they are caseless.

Out of curiosity, why is the second knife so lolhhuge at one end?


firs off: :o :hug: Thanks very much this is my crowning achievement as of yet
second: I was a little worried about the stock I've seen some bullpups with collapsing stocks get some not-so-great comments
third: yes telescoping rounds make it look more futuristic
fourth: It's a fighting knife and is inspired by Lyras' Lycos machete which has a similar sort of bulge and well if imitation is the most sincere form of flattery

also the reason I wrote "lol" for the url is at the front of the gun near the barrel :p
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Postby Senestrum » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:40 am

In Halo that tube's a flashlight.

If it were up to me, it would be a metalstorm grenade launcher.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:51 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
Oh, oh, jumping back again, AR-10! For the win!


On the AR-10, I've heard that it has a tendency to jamb under repeated firing. However I have also heard that this problem can be over come with some simple changes to the gas-spring what you macall it. (sorry can't remember name of piece just remember that the person said the problem was fixable)

The AR-10 is direct impingement, it has no gas spring or piston.
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Postby Bajireyn » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:23 am

Risen Britannia wrote:
UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:.

personally i would do something like this
Image
Bajireyn wrote:Are these by any chance for sale?

For sale? no. However all my designs can be used freely if people ask first.

Can I use your excellent Railgun and SMG designs?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:26 am

Senestrum wrote:In Halo that tube's a flashlight.

If it were up to me, it would be a metalstorm grenade launcher.


I read that as Malestrom...ANyway. Yeah that would be very fun to play with.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:29 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
On the AR-10, I've heard that it has a tendency to jamb under repeated firing. However I have also heard that this problem can be over come with some simple changes to the gas-spring what you macall it. (sorry can't remember name of piece just remember that the person said the problem was fixable)

The AR-10 is direct impingement, it has no gas spring or piston.


Ok, just shows how little I know about gun design. All I remember is the guy complaining, and the saying he could fix it. I can't remember how he fixed the problem and I certainly didn't understand it at the time.
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it fires a 6.8x45
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body is a plasticine case with a inner metallic lining of aircraft grade aluminum


First that is a really good looking weapon. I'm just wondering whats that part that projects up after the holographic sight? Or is that part of the sight and I an really stupid?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:33 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The AR-10 is direct impingement, it has no gas spring or piston.


Ok, just shows how little I know about gun design. All I remember is the guy complaining, and the saying he could fix it. I can't remember how he fixed the problem and I certainly didn't understand it at the time.

Well, three things you could do would be to adjust the gas plug (reducing the aperture through which gas can flow will increase the pressure on the bolt group, but reduce the particulate that makes its way into the system, use a longer barrel with a gas port further along the barrel to ensure the propellant has burnt properly (again, reducing the particulate), or use a faster-burning propellant.

I think. But I don't think the first one applies to the AR-10.
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Postby Bajireyn » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:35 am

New Lineart!

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:39 am

Bajireyn wrote:New Lineart!

Thoughts?


I feel like looking down those sights might be a little bit awkward. There just doesn't seam to be enough space behind the back sight to comfortably fit your head.
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Postby Senestrum » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:43 am

Bajireyn wrote:New Lineart!

Thoughts?


You're getting better!

The sights are too low to use comfortably, and it could use a bit of cleaning up in a few places. Also, the rails are not the right shape to be picatinny rails, but I can't imagine some far-off FT nation using them, so...
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Postby Coltarin » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:44 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The AR-10 is direct impingement, it has no gas spring or piston.


Ok, just shows how little I know about gun design. All I remember is the guy complaining, and the saying he could fix it. I can't remember how he fixed the problem and I certainly didn't understand it at the time.
Coltarin wrote:Tiny lol
constructive comments please
it fires a 6.8x45
2.5 feet
body is a plasticine case with a inner metallic lining of aircraft grade aluminum


First that is a really good looking weapon. I'm just wondering whats that part that projects up after the holographic sight? Or is that part of the sight and I an really stupid?

are you talking about the sight picture or what?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:44 am

Bajireyn wrote:New Lineart!

Thoughts?

Raise the sights for their profile to be about an inch clear of the top of the receiver, move the magazine and action an inch or two forwards (so that the rear of the magazine is 12-15cm from the rear of the receiver - unless you're using a non-conventional action) and make your rails taller. Each 'brick' wants to be about 5mm tall and 7mm wide. The bricks on the side rails want to be about 20mm tall and 7mm wide.

I'd also recommend looking at some references for the flash hider. Aside from that, it's a very nice looking rifle.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:46 am

Coltarin wrote:are you talking about the sight picture or what?


Probably. As noted already I know very little about gun design, and everything associated with it.
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