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Postby Risen Britannia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:52 pm

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now with scope/range finder/magic box of tricks.

Also the battery can now support 12 shots before being depleted
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Postby UEG-The Systems Alliance » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:28 pm


A Complete List of all UNSC Service Rifles
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The Lewis Hindenburg 54th Model 5 Special Forces Combat Weapon, created in 2145, it entered UNSC service in 2160 - 2217. This was the creators last weapon before his death making him one of the worlds oldest men before his death, the first successful rifle had him add the final paint job before the week he passed away bedside. The weapon was highly regarded as his second AR master piece right behind his LH30M2.

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The M82 Assault Rifle and MA3 AR was used buy the Marines/Army primarily during the Harmony Insurrection, The Soviet Expansion War and the Helghast Wars. Both caused some minor arguments between both branches as the MA3 AR lasted a year after the M82.

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In order of appearance.
- MA37 ICWS
- MA5B ICWS
- MA5C ICWS
- MA6A/MA6U ICWS
- MA38 ICWS

weapons one to two were common in the Insurrection era and both participated in the Human-Covenant War, the third weapon was around the end of the war and stayed in service before the fourth. The fourth rifle was in service during the Second Contact war and was updated a few years afterwards. The last one came into service near the end of the Galactic War and is still in service, a newer weapon named the MA50A ICWS is being developed.



I decided to bump this, also new rifle is coming out for public few soon.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:46 pm

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Samozaryadnyastan wrote:While the XCR is a good rifle (or so I've been told) and the M14 makes an excellent battle rifle, your carbine and SMG choices don't make a great deal of sense. There are plenty of modern .45 SMGs with a variety of actions or ergonomic quirks that would make them substantially better than two weapons of WWII vintage and prior. The UMP .45 and Kriss Super V (Vector) being two well-publicised options.
I don't feel the AC-556 would make for a very good carbine. You'd probably be better off with a military rifle designed for the role, not a civilian shooter arm. Since you already use the XCR, why not the XCR Mini? I wouldn't recommend the Micro, its barrel would be too short for any suitable ranges. Some handguns have barrels nearly as long as the Micro.



I've heard less than praising reviews of the XCR, mostly to do with the varied quality rifle-to-rifle.

I looked into it. It seems all nice and fine, that is, if you have the money to buy the rifle and pay for absolute top-of-the-line ammo. Without that stuff, the rifle's unreliable according to a few reviews I just read.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:49 pm

American manufactured AKM clone?
I imagine that combines the three to at least a decent degree.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:51 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:American manufactured AKM clone?
I imagine that combines the three to at least a decent degree.

I said cheap. Quality American AK clones are rarely cheap. Take a look at the SGL. It's over $1,000, IIRC.
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Postby Galla- » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:54 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:While the XCR is a good rifle (or so I've been told) and the M14 makes an excellent battle rifle, your carbine and SMG choices don't make a great deal of sense. There are plenty of modern .45 SMGs with a variety of actions or ergonomic quirks that would make them substantially better than two weapons of WWII vintage and prior. The UMP .45 and Kriss Super V (Vector) being two well-publicised options.
I don't feel the AC-556 would make for a very good carbine. You'd probably be better off with a military rifle designed for the role, not a civilian shooter arm. Since you already use the XCR, why not the XCR Mini? I wouldn't recommend the Micro, its barrel would be too short for any suitable ranges. Some handguns have barrels nearly as long as the Micro.


AC-556 is a military rifle designed for the role.

Insofar that a "military rifle" is what would normally be called a "select fire" rifle.

I mean, the USMC and US Army use commercial Remington 700s for sniping.
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Postby Bajireyn » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:46 pm

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now with scope/range finder/magic box of tricks.

Also the battery can now support 12 shots before being depleted

Are these by any chance for sale?
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:55 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:American manufactured AKM clone?
I imagine that combines the three to at least a decent degree.

I said cheap. Quality American AK clones are rarely cheap. Take a look at the SGL. It's over $1,000, IIRC.



SGL 21-61 (base 7.62 platform) is right at $805.00 on Atlantic Firearms. The only reason mine was ~$1,300.00 is because I got the limited edition with the AK-100 series stock (SGL 21-94). Speaking of which, all but one of the parts (light) came in today and I installed them. This sling is very nice (though a bit of a bitch to install), the Ultimak rail is super snug (again, bitch to install until I figured out what I was doing), and the Vortex quick-release light mount is great (and also a bitch to install). Long story short -- the parts are epic and I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to customizing weapons. :palm:

I know how it needs to be done now in the future. I also installed a flat muzzle nut on the WASR to improve its accuracy. Once that Surefire 6PX Pro comes in, I'll probably be vomiting rainbows from my urethra.



EDIT FOR HUNTING STUFF: Arsenal rifles typically come with a five-round magazine, so you can hunt with them. I hunted with my WASR last year and got a doe while it was running at around 100m using a 4x scope. This next season I plan on using my Arsenal SGL 21-94. Still not sure if I'll use irons or a scope: I tested my accuracy with irons the other day and every shot hit exactly where I wanted it to, so I might use irons. AKs are perfectly acceptable hunting rifles at 200m or less. Also, Arsenal Inc. rifles are Russian-made and converted-to-pistol-grip in the US: they aren't clones necessarily (to an extent, yes, but they are made in Russia). Arsenal Co. is the company that makes their AKs off of Bulgarian kits.

If I remember correctly: "SGL" prefix means "Arsenal Inc" and "SLR" prefix means "Arsenal Co." Either way, a 7.62 AK variant should work fine for 200m or less. Anything beyond that and you'll want a more accurate platform: Remington 700s in .308 aren't too horribly expensive and they tend to have decent accuracy. Savage rifles are also fairly accurate.
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:01 pm

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:While the XCR is a good rifle (or so I've been told) and the M14 makes an excellent battle rifle, your carbine and SMG choices don't make a great deal of sense. There are plenty of modern .45 SMGs with a variety of actions or ergonomic quirks that would make them substantially better than two weapons of WWII vintage and prior. The UMP .45 and Kriss Super V (Vector) being two well-publicised options.
I don't feel the AC-556 would make for a very good carbine. You'd probably be better off with a military rifle designed for the role, not a civilian shooter arm. Since you already use the XCR, why not the XCR Mini? I wouldn't recommend the Micro, its barrel would be too short for any suitable ranges. Some handguns have barrels nearly as long as the Micro.


AC-556 is a military rifle designed for the role.

Insofar that a "military rifle" is what would normally be called a "select fire" rifle.

I mean, the USMC and US Army use commercial Remington 700s for sniping.


The AC-556 is a Mini-14 with full-auto capabilities. The Mini-14 was designed as a varmint rifle.

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:24 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I said cheap. Quality American AK clones are rarely cheap. Take a look at the SGL. It's over $1,000, IIRC.



SGL 21-61 (base 7.62 platform) is right at $805.00 on Atlantic Firearms. The only reason mine was ~$1,300.00 is because I got the limited edition with the AK-100 series stock (SGL 21-94). Speaking of which, all but one of the parts (light) came in today and I installed them. This sling is very nice (though a bit of a bitch to install), the Ultimak rail is super snug (again, bitch to install until I figured out what I was doing), and the Vortex quick-release light mount is great (and also a bitch to install). Long story short -- the parts are epic and I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to customizing weapons. :palm:

I know how it needs to be done now in the future. I also installed a flat muzzle nut on the WASR to improve its accuracy. Once that Surefire 6PX Pro comes in, I'll probably be vomiting rainbows from my urethra.



EDIT FOR HUNTING STUFF: Arsenal rifles typically come with a five-round magazine, so you can hunt with them. I hunted with my WASR last year and got a doe while it was running at around 100m using a 4x scope. This next season I plan on using my Arsenal SGL 21-94. Still not sure if I'll use irons or a scope: I tested my accuracy with irons the other day and every shot hit exactly where I wanted it to, so I might use irons. AKs are perfectly acceptable hunting rifles at 200m or less. Also, Arsenal Inc. rifles are Russian-made and converted-to-pistol-grip in the US: they aren't clones necessarily (to an extent, yes, but they are made in Russia). Arsenal Co. is the company that makes their AKs off of Bulgarian kits.

If I remember correctly: "SGL" prefix means "Arsenal Inc" and "SLR" prefix means "Arsenal Co." Either way, a 7.62 AK variant should work fine for 200m or less. Anything beyond that and you'll want a more accurate platform: Remington 700s in .308 aren't too horribly expensive and they tend to have decent accuracy. Savage rifles are also fairly accurate.

I know 7.62 would be fine. It's just that the majority of civilian rifles available in my area that are cheap, reliable, and customizable aren't very good for hunting due to the fact that they're often chambered in .223.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:29 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

SGL 21-61 (base 7.62 platform) is right at $805.00 on Atlantic Firearms. The only reason mine was ~$1,300.00 is because I got the limited edition with the AK-100 series stock (SGL 21-94). Speaking of which, all but one of the parts (light) came in today and I installed them. This sling is very nice (though a bit of a bitch to install), the Ultimak rail is super snug (again, bitch to install until I figured out what I was doing), and the Vortex quick-release light mount is great (and also a bitch to install). Long story short -- the parts are epic and I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to customizing weapons. :palm:

I know how it needs to be done now in the future. I also installed a flat muzzle nut on the WASR to improve its accuracy. Once that Surefire 6PX Pro comes in, I'll probably be vomiting rainbows from my urethra.



EDIT FOR HUNTING STUFF: Arsenal rifles typically come with a five-round magazine, so you can hunt with them. I hunted with my WASR last year and got a doe while it was running at around 100m using a 4x scope. This next season I plan on using my Arsenal SGL 21-94. Still not sure if I'll use irons or a scope: I tested my accuracy with irons the other day and every shot hit exactly where I wanted it to, so I might use irons. AKs are perfectly acceptable hunting rifles at 200m or less. Also, Arsenal Inc. rifles are Russian-made and converted-to-pistol-grip in the US: they aren't clones necessarily (to an extent, yes, but they are made in Russia). Arsenal Co. is the company that makes their AKs off of Bulgarian kits.

If I remember correctly: "SGL" prefix means "Arsenal Inc" and "SLR" prefix means "Arsenal Co." Either way, a 7.62 AK variant should work fine for 200m or less. Anything beyond that and you'll want a more accurate platform: Remington 700s in .308 aren't too horribly expensive and they tend to have decent accuracy. Savage rifles are also fairly accurate.

I know 7.62 would be fine. It's just that the majority of civilian rifles available in my area that are cheap, reliable, and customizable aren't very good for hunting due to the fact that they're often chambered in .223.

Unless you're gunning for small critters like wabbits (*cough*ElmerFudd*cough*), 5.56 isn't really a good hunting round, right?
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:31 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

SGL 21-61 (base 7.62 platform) is right at $805.00 on Atlantic Firearms. The only reason mine was ~$1,300.00 is because I got the limited edition with the AK-100 series stock (SGL 21-94). Speaking of which, all but one of the parts (light) came in today and I installed them. This sling is very nice (though a bit of a bitch to install), the Ultimak rail is super snug (again, bitch to install until I figured out what I was doing), and the Vortex quick-release light mount is great (and also a bitch to install). Long story short -- the parts are epic and I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to customizing weapons. :palm:

I know how it needs to be done now in the future. I also installed a flat muzzle nut on the WASR to improve its accuracy. Once that Surefire 6PX Pro comes in, I'll probably be vomiting rainbows from my urethra.



EDIT FOR HUNTING STUFF: Arsenal rifles typically come with a five-round magazine, so you can hunt with them. I hunted with my WASR last year and got a doe while it was running at around 100m using a 4x scope. This next season I plan on using my Arsenal SGL 21-94. Still not sure if I'll use irons or a scope: I tested my accuracy with irons the other day and every shot hit exactly where I wanted it to, so I might use irons. AKs are perfectly acceptable hunting rifles at 200m or less. Also, Arsenal Inc. rifles are Russian-made and converted-to-pistol-grip in the US: they aren't clones necessarily (to an extent, yes, but they are made in Russia). Arsenal Co. is the company that makes their AKs off of Bulgarian kits.

If I remember correctly: "SGL" prefix means "Arsenal Inc" and "SLR" prefix means "Arsenal Co." Either way, a 7.62 AK variant should work fine for 200m or less. Anything beyond that and you'll want a more accurate platform: Remington 700s in .308 aren't too horribly expensive and they tend to have decent accuracy. Savage rifles are also fairly accurate.

I know 7.62 would be fine. It's just that the majority of civilian rifles available in my area that are cheap, reliable, and customizable aren't very good for hunting due to the fact that they're often chambered in .223.



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FAKE EDIT TO ADD: I would not take .223 beyond whitetail deer, and even then, .223 on a whitetail relies on good shot placement.

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:38 pm

Central and Eastern Visayas wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:I know 7.62 would be fine. It's just that the majority of civilian rifles available in my area that are cheap, reliable, and customizable aren't very good for hunting due to the fact that they're often chambered in .223.

Unless you're gunning for small critters like wabbits (*cough*ElmerFudd*cough*), 5.56 isn't really a good hunting round, right?

Pretty much.
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:42 pm

Expanding .223 ammunition is perfectly fine on game up to white-tailed deer: you need to make absolutely certain you hit the vitals with it, however. .223 is also a common coyote round. Prairie dogs, varmints, and, again, coyotes are capable of being killed somewhat easily by the .223 round. Squirrels and rabbits really shouldn't be taken by anything larger than .22 Magnum assuming you're shooting for meat. If not, I've known people that have shot squirrels with .30-06s for "shits 'n' gigs."

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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:43 pm

Spreewerke wrote:Expanding .223 ammunition is perfectly fine on game up to white-tailed deer: you need to make absolutely certain you hit the vitals with it, however. .223 is also a common coyote round. Prairie dogs, varmints, and, again, coyotes are capable of being killed somewhat easily by the .223 round. Squirrels and rabbits really shouldn't be taken by anything larger than .22 Magnum assuming you're shooting for meat. If not, I've known people that have shot squirrels with .30-06s for "shits 'n' gigs."

I'd keep an eye on those people...
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Postby UEG-The Systems Alliance » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:44 pm

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:46 pm

UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:(Image)

The MA50A ICWS "Valkyrie" Assault Rifle

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Looks like you ripped off the Halo rifle, and added Mass Effect trademarks to it.

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Postby Gawdzendia » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:47 pm

Mosasauria wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Expanding .223 ammunition is perfectly fine on game up to white-tailed deer: you need to make absolutely certain you hit the vitals with it, however. .223 is also a common coyote round. Prairie dogs, varmints, and, again, coyotes are capable of being killed somewhat easily by the .223 round. Squirrels and rabbits really shouldn't be taken by anything larger than .22 Magnum assuming you're shooting for meat. If not, I've known people that have shot squirrels with .30-06s for "shits 'n' gigs."

I'd keep an eye on those people...


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Mosasauria wrote:I'd keep an eye on those people...


I shot groundhogs with a Mosin Nagant for shits n gigs, sir. 8)


Hamsters with a 40mm Bofors. Your move.
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Postby UEG-The Systems Alliance » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:50 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:(Image)

The MA50A ICWS "Valkyrie" Assault Rifle

Opinions?


Looks like you ripped off the Halo rifle, and added Mass Effect trademarks to it.

Looks like it is another part of a series of rifles. Because we all know the Rifle from Halo reach was in halo 3, and we all know there was never a concept of a series of weapons right guys?
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Old Beringia wrote:Calm down and don't worry if no one makes brownies in other nations. It's not as if it's a necessity like bread or water. I'm sure they can all exist without brownies because other pastries exist and the dessert may just go by another name in those countries. The fudgey dessert must be your favorite if you get so antsy when no one knows what a brownie is. So please, calm down and go order a box of supreme fudge chocolate chip brownies from your local 9 and i convenience store; I understand they now deliver baked goods.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:50 pm

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I shot groundhogs with a Mosin Nagant for shits n gigs, sir. 8)


Hamsters with a 40mm Bofors. Your move.


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Postby Alimeria II » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:51 pm

A kid on my bus once said that his uncle shot at Gophers with a RPG. I assuming he did not, because I believe it's hard to get a RPG here in Montana much less shoot at some gophers with one.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:53 pm

UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:
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Looks like you ripped off the Halo rifle, and added Mass Effect trademarks to it.

Looks like it is another part of a series of rifles. Because we all know the Rifle from Halo reach was in halo 3, and we all know there was never a concept of a series of weapons right guys?


You asked for opinions, I gave you mine. Which was that it looked like you ripped off the Halo rifle and added the N7 Mass Effect logo to the rifle.

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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:53 pm

I've shot a small snapping turtle with a 1911 using .45ACP Remington Hyrdra-Shocks. It was small enough that the energy transfer lifted it a couple inches off the ground and threw it about a foot away from me every time I fired (twice).

In my defense, the thing looked pretty messed up and had parasites all over it.

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Postby UEG-The Systems Alliance » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:55 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
UEG-The Systems Alliance wrote:Looks like it is another part of a series of rifles. Because we all know the Rifle from Halo reach was in halo 3, and we all know there was never a concept of a series of weapons right guys?


You asked for opinions, I gave you mine. Which was that it looked like you ripped off the Halo rifle and added the N7 Mass Effect logo to the rifle.

Its hard to rip things off from a source material in your nation.

I wonder what UEG means?

I also like how your opinion was constructive.
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Old Beringia wrote:Calm down and don't worry if no one makes brownies in other nations. It's not as if it's a necessity like bread or water. I'm sure they can all exist without brownies because other pastries exist and the dessert may just go by another name in those countries. The fudgey dessert must be your favorite if you get so antsy when no one knows what a brownie is. So please, calm down and go order a box of supreme fudge chocolate chip brownies from your local 9 and i convenience store; I understand they now deliver baked goods.

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