Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. IV) The Proper Un

[Triumvirate of Mars]

Main Assualt Rifle - XCR-M http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Armament_XCR (.260 Remington)

Main Battle Rifle - M14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M14_rifle (.308 Winchester)

Main Carbine - AC-556 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC-556#AC-556 (5.56x45)

Main SMG - UD M42 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Defense_M42 (.45 ACP) And M1928 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1928#Model_of_1928 (.45 ACP)

Main Pistol - P228 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P228#Variants (.357 SIG)

[Samozaryadnyastan]

While the XCR is a good rifle (or so I've been told) and the M14 makes an excellent battle rifle, your carbine and SMG choices don't make a great deal of sense. There are plenty of modern .45 SMGs with a variety of actions or ergonomic quirks that would make them substantially better than two weapons of WWII vintage and prior. The UMP .45 and Kriss Super V (Vector) being two well-publicised options.
I don't feel the AC-556 would make for a very good carbine. You'd probably be better off with a military rifle designed for the role, not a civilian shooter arm. Since you already use the XCR, why not the XCR Mini? I wouldn't recommend the Micro, its barrel would be too short for any suitable ranges. Some handguns have barrels nearly as long as the Micro.

[Mosasauria]

I'm planning on making a 50s nation that strictly uses the Johnson Machine Gun and the Johnson Auto Carbine.

[Spreewerke]

While the XCR is a good rifle (or so I've been told) and the M14 makes an excellent battle rifle, your carbine and SMG choices don't make a great deal of sense. There are plenty of modern .45 SMGs with a variety of actions or ergonomic quirks that would make them substantially better than two weapons of WWII vintage and prior. The UMP .45 and Kriss Super V (Vector) being two well-publicised options.
I don't feel the AC-556 would make for a very good carbine. You'd probably be better off with a military rifle designed for the role, not a civilian shooter arm. Since you already use the XCR, why not the XCR Mini? I wouldn't recommend the Micro, its barrel would be too short for any suitable ranges. Some handguns have barrels nearly as long as the Micro.

I've heard less than praising reviews of the XCR, mostly to do with the varied quality rifle-to-rifle.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

So no probs with how they are used?

The only problem I can forsee is potential target-leading issues. That's really about it.

EDIT: With training, this is a non-issue. So, rockets should work perfectly fine for what you have shown. I guess I was talking more about closer-range firearms (pistols, SMGs, etc), so nevermind.

What about stealth?

[Indeos]

The only problem I can forsee is potential target-leading issues. That's really about it.

EDIT: With training, this is a non-issue. So, rockets should work perfectly fine for what you have shown. I guess I was talking more about closer-range firearms (pistols, SMGs, etc), so nevermind.

What about stealth?

Very little noise compared to a bullet being fired, and you have more time to change positions.

[Yes Im Biop]

The only problem I can forsee is potential target-leading issues. That's really about it.

EDIT: With training, this is a non-issue. So, rockets should work perfectly fine for what you have shown. I guess I was talking more about closer-range firearms (pistols, SMGs, etc), so nevermind.

What about stealth?

Its a Bazooka more or less... You cant really Silence it but the Gyronet rounds would allow you to fire and move to a different part./

[Galla-]

AKs are gross.

Sorry.

Also, every service rifle everywhere is outdated.

But the G3 is the least outdated.

;~;

[Ularn]

Quick question; is it worth putting integrated ironsights on a weapon these days or have they basically been superseded by sticking a scope or holo-sight on a rail? I ask because I'm debating whether to add ironsights to my current lineart for a railgun machine pistol or just leave it with a rail for the operator to add their own sights. It seems like ironsights are already falling out of favour on today's battlefields, suggesting they'll be non-existent even as backups in NSFT and I'm as well not bothering to include them.

For reference, here's the mock-up of the gun which I did in PMG. At the moment I'm tracing it in Paint.NET to get it exactly how I want it.

[Central and Eastern Visayas]

What about stealth?

Its a Bazooka more or less... You cant really Silence it but the Gyronet rounds would allow you to fire and move to a different part./

So stealth for the gyrojet is basically defined as "shoot and scoot?"

[Paddy O Fernature]

Its a Bazooka more or less... You cant really Silence it but the Gyronet rounds would allow you to fire and move to a different part./

So stealth for the gyrojet is basically defined as "shoot and scoot?"

God I hope not, cause by that def damn near anything could be considered "stealth"....

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Quick question; is it worth putting integrated ironsights on a weapon these days or have they basically been superseded by sticking a scope or holo-sight on a rail? I ask because I'm debating whether to add ironsights to my current lineart for a railgun machine pistol or just leave it with a rail for the operator to add their own sights. It seems like ironsights are already falling out of favour on today's battlefields, suggesting they'll be non-existent even as backups in NSFT and I'm as well not bothering to include them.

For reference, here's the mock-up of the gun which I did in PMG. At the moment I'm tracing it in Paint.NET to get it exactly how I want it.

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All my iron sights are BUIS, or backup iron sights.
If your scope gets damaged, or stops working, then you simply remove it and use the flip-up irons. In fact, AK/Saiga receiver-mounted rails are sometimes designed so that in the event of sight failure, you can look underneath the mount and still use the original irons.

[Ularn]

Quick question; is it worth putting integrated ironsights on a weapon these days or have they basically been superseded by sticking a scope or holo-sight on a rail? I ask because I'm debating whether to add ironsights to my current lineart for a railgun machine pistol or just leave it with a rail for the operator to add their own sights. It seems like ironsights are already falling out of favour on today's battlefields, suggesting they'll be non-existent even as backups in NSFT and I'm as well not bothering to include them.

For reference, here's the mock-up of the gun which I did in PMG. At the moment I'm tracing it in Paint.NET to get it exactly how I want it.

(Image)

All my iron sights are BUIS, or backup iron sights.
If your scope gets damaged, or stops working, then you simply remove it and use the flip-up irons. In fact, AK/Saiga receiver-mounted rails are sometimes designed so that in the event of sight failure, you can look underneath the mount and still use the original irons.

I might consider that for future projects but with the positioning of the stock and the fact that I already have the slider for the foregrip under the rail makes it a non-option here. What I might do instead is design a few scopes and such with ironsights on top for use when you don't want your view magnified, then sell those in the storefront as well.

[Sevvania]

So no probs with how they are used?

The only problem I can forsee is potential target-leading issues. That's really about it.

EDIT: With training, this is a non-issue. So, rockets should work perfectly fine for what you have shown. I guess I was talking more about closer-range firearms (pistols, SMGs, etc), so nevermind.

From my understanding, gyrojets were actually highly inaccurate because the took time to reach their maximum velocity. So until then, the projectile wasn't very stable. I think. There's a documentary clip on Youtube somewhere...

Another problem was its inability to wound at close range because the round had yet to reach its maximum velocity. But I'm no expert, so you might wanna check with more reliable sources.

[Yes Im Biop]

The only problem I can forsee is potential target-leading issues. That's really about it.

EDIT: With training, this is a non-issue. So, rockets should work perfectly fine for what you have shown. I guess I was talking more about closer-range firearms (pistols, SMGs, etc), so nevermind.

From my understanding, gyrojets were actually highly inaccurate because the took time to reach their maximum velocity. So until then, the projectile wasn't very stable. I think. There's a documentary clip on Youtube somewhere...

Another problem was its inability to wound at close range because the round had yet to reach its maximum velocity. But I'm no expert, so you might wanna check with more reliable sources.

Yeah i heard that to. But the Gyronet is only one of teh ammo types. Bassicly it turn it from a Mobile AT Gun into a Bazooka.

[Faberry States]

An extremely brief list of some of the weapons currently serving in the military. I've not figured out all the weapons in my military so the list is incomplete.

Pistol - Browning Hi-Power
Assault Riffle - Robinson Armament XCR armed in 6.5 Grendel.
DMR - XCR (DM configuration)
Sniper - Arctic Warfare Magnum and AS50
Shotgun - Benelli M4

Repost of earlier weapon selection with new DM riffle. I was wondering if the XCR could be configured into a light machine gun by using a heavier barrel and possible different magazine?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

All my iron sights are BUIS, or backup iron sights.
If your scope gets damaged, or stops working, then you simply remove it and use the flip-up irons. In fact, AK/Saiga receiver-mounted rails are sometimes designed so that in the event of sight failure, you can look underneath the mount and still use the original irons.

I might consider that for future projects but with the positioning of the stock and the fact that I already have the slider for the foregrip under the rail makes it a non-option here. What I might do instead is design a few scopes and such with ironsights on top for use when you don't want your view magnified, then sell those in the storefront as well.

As personal preference, I'd say an RMR (Rail Mounted Reflex) would be better as opposed to an additional iron on the scope. Basically a HAMR.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

An extremely brief list of some of the weapons currently serving in the military. I've not figured out all the weapons in my military so the list is incomplete.

Pistol - Browning Hi-Power
Assault Riffle - Robinson Armament XCR armed in 6.5 Grendel.
DMR - XCR (DM configuration)
Sniper - Arctic Warfare Magnum and AS50
Shotgun - Benelli M4

Repost of earlier weapon selection with new DM riffle. I was wondering if the XCR could be configured into a light machine gun by using a heavier barrel and possible different magazine?

I wouldn't personally regard an adapted rifle as a true light machine gun, that is a squad automatic weapon. While there's usually little if any difference between those terms, I like to make the distinction. A 'true' light machine gun in my eyes is a purpose built, belt fed support weapon, such as the PKP, M249 et al. Weapons like this fall under all three of my currently existing SAWs, and are in a similar vein to the IAR-27, RPK and similar.

[Ularn]

I might consider that for future projects but with the positioning of the stock and the fact that I already have the slider for the foregrip under the rail makes it a non-option here. What I might do instead is design a few scopes and such with ironsights on top for use when you don't want your view magnified, then sell those in the storefront as well.

As personal preference, I'd say an RMR (Rail Mounted Reflex) would be better as opposed to an additional iron on the scope. Basically a HAMR.

Ooh! That's nice as well. Now to incorporate a ballistic computer and gun cam into it and I've got my FUTURESCOPE^®

[Senestrum]

Senestrian rifles are issued with optics and rapid transition sights. If you have to remove the scope to use the irons, urdoingitrong

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Are BUIS really of any use on a self-guided weapon firing its rounds at 11km/s at targets far beyond the horizon? :')

[Ularn]

Are BUIS really of any use on a self-guided weapon firing its rounds at 11km/s at targets far beyond the horizon? :')

Was this directed at me or Sen? If me, then my guns aren't that good. If Sen, then I think she was talking about her MT guns, since IIRC her FT weapons are psychic and don't need your piddly little scopes or sights.

[Galla-]

Senestrian rifles are issued with optics and rapid transition sights. If you have to remove the scope to use the irons, urdoingitrong

just stick iron sights on the scope itself

not like you'll be shooting at long distance at that angle anyway >:

[Faberry States]

Repost of earlier weapon selection with new DM riffle. I was wondering if the XCR could be configured into a light machine gun by using a heavier barrel and possible different magazine?

I wouldn't personally regard an adapted rifle as a true light machine gun, that is a squad automatic weapon. While there's usually little if any difference between those terms, I like to make the distinction. A 'true' light machine gun in my eyes is a purpose built, belt fed support weapon, such as the PKP, M249 et al. Weapons like this fall under all three of my currently existing SAWs, and are in a similar vein to the IAR-27, RPK and similar.

I see. On what level should SAW's be replaced with LMG'S?

[Gawdzendia]

Ugh, make me catch up on like five pages of arguments and topic swaps. I am of the opinion that the Gyrojet program took too much FlAK at the time because it was a great idea dumped into the wrong platform. As most of you are aware, Gyrojets get faster further from the barrel (the opposite of booletz), and as such are unsuited for anything in the immediate threat range of 300 meters. So as Para mentions, the ideal platform is the Sniper Rifle. I'm working on a theoretical Gyrojet HMG (mostly cause itd look cool to see the rounds go faster towards the enemy over a good distance), and I wonder what the topics opinions are on this.

Replies may be slow, im on my phone.