Spreewerke wrote:The most prominent reason I dislike them is the in-trigger safety. It's totally redundant. Excuse the profanities I'm about to lay down: GLOCK does that to me.
- "Oh, but that's so the gun never fires until you pull the trigger!"
No fucking shit? You mean it was designed like every other pistol ever created? Holy shit, no way. I mean, the reason that pistols that also fire when you pull the trigger have manual safeties is just because they're squares, right? It isn't so you can't accidentally snag the trigger and be safe from a discharge, of course not. That never happens. Ever. Not while drawing from a holster, not while going through brush, not while keeping it in a vehicle....
Seriously, GLOCK people: every modern pistol in the history of ever has fired when you pull the damned trigger. They just realized that, "Hey! Maybe we should add a safety in case someone gets careless!"
-----Now, military and police (and a fair number of civilians)? They train with their pistols all the time. A safety for them consists of an index finger and proper discipline. That guy who figured $500 for a GLOCK 17 could be used for a "never shoot it until I have to" nightstand gun? He consists of a fair number of firearm purchasers. He also just increased his chances for an ND by never having trained with his new GLOCK ever.
The guy who's never touched a gun before and went with GLOCK because they're awesomesauce? Same as above: great lack of experience, therefore more prone to an ND.
I'm not saying everyone is retarded, no: only the majority of society is (or so it seems when you work retail: it's a joke). Have people experienced negligent discharges with a firearm that had a safety? Yep. This guy has had exactly one.
I have also noticed that I let a far from gun savvy friend of mine look at my Makarov. I handed it to them and said, "Careful, it's loaded." Next thing I know, they're aiming it at other people in the room, finger on the trigger, practicing their aim. After a "What the fuck, are you stupid?!" and a weapons' retrieval, I told them just how idiotic that was even if "the safety was on, though!"
- IT CAN SURVIVE A DROP FROM A ROFLCOPTER AND 200 MILES PER HOUR AND LAND ON CONCRETE AND STILL SHOOT!!!!!111!11one!
-----That's cool. The last time I flew in a helicopter at skyscraper levels over concrete was... never.
- It has a consistent trigger pull every time!
-----Just like single actions: I love single actions. Even on my double-actions I cock the hammer back before the first shot. Pretty consistent and has less of a trigger pull than the GLOCK does.
- It's got a polymer frame, so it can't rust!
-----Well, hate to break this to you, but basically everything else on it is metal and you'll still have to oil that down. If I'm cleaning the other 90% of the firearm, oiling the frame really isn't a chore whatsoever.
- The polymer makes it lighter!
-----This I can understand. Considering my primary carry handgun is a Makarov, well: all steel, about the same weight as a GLOCK. As big of a caliber? No. As big of a gun in general? No. Chances are, however, if I'm switching to my Mak, it's because my SGL 21-94 either ran dry or malfunctioned. Lately I've been packing a rifle more than a handgun.
- It comes from Austria!
-----Just like Hitler.
- It isn't too expensive!
-----Okay. This is also why they experience the most NDs of any handgun I currently know of. It used to be the 1911 when it was all the rage. Now that the GLOCK is more obtainable by inexperience owners, the chances of a GLOCK being involved in an ND is raised. Is this necessarily GLOCK's fault? No, I will admit that. However, the in-trigger safety probably doesn't help. I hate that so hard.
- It's field-strip is as easy as having inconsequential intercourse with a 36C-24-34!
-----That's cool. The P38 field-strips into three parts in about three seconds. It was also designed in the 1930s.
- It's so easy to customize!
-----As is pretty much anything else anymore thanks to the interwebs and people with gumption to do things. Are GLOCK parts easier to get? Yeah, thank your law enforcement agencies. Then again, 1911, CZ, SIG, and HK parts are floating around, too, and not in that small of numbers.
- They're super reliable!
-----I've never had a malfunction that I can remember with any of my handguns (aside from the TP25: if you don't hold it a certain way, it will literally release the slide from the frame -- I bought it for $40, so I can't complain). What are these SUPER RELIABLE handguns of mine? Must be GLOCKs, eh? No. One's a Spreewerke P38 from 1943, one is a High Standard 1911 from 2010 (I think? Maybe 2009), and the other is a Makarov from the 1980s. No malfunctions even though they've been around blood, guts, dirt, and mud. 'Merica (and Germany and Bulgaria...)My hate is not the only thing I have for GLOCKs, though. I have fired one before: G22 like what the police use. It's the full-sized .40S&W model. Was it accurate? Yes. Go bang every time? Yes. Easy to use? Yes. It was accurate, balanced well, and generally felt alright in the hands. However, I find GLOCKs to be an insanely redundant design. I do not find them any better than any other handgun I have ever handled. The fact their safety is pretty much non-existent makes them a downgrade from anything else I've ever handled. I've had things snag trigger guards before: a GLOCK is the last thing I want in that situation.
- They make my pee-pee happy.
-----My P38 does that, too. I understand how you feel.
I prefer all-metal models simply due to the recoil negation granted by the extra weight. I prefer exposed hammers so I can make the choice of DA or SA (it's a given if it's SA only, of course) and because I like being able to drop the hammer as an added 'safety.' I have no problem with all of my handguns having less than ten rounds of ammunition at the most (that's using eight-round mags and one in the pipe). Everything I've shot with a handgun has never required more than two shots (exception being a Daewoo DP51 that was literally inaccurate at 15 feet: ammunition switch changed this problem, however).
Customization? The only thing I've customized so far has been my Daewoo DR200 and that's because I couldn't physically use the iron sights with the stock the previous owner had installed. Therefore: red dot sight. That is it besides the necessary 922r parts. My Arsenal is going to be the only thing I customize out of "want" rather than necessity: it has a Ultimak rail and off-set flashlight in its future. Yes... yes it does... Let's not forget the VTAC sling I've been eyeballing. Regardless: I've never had the need to upgrade any of my handguns. Granted, they're all old military designs, they have served their purposes extremely well. I am no SWAT member.
Can my 1911 survive a helicopter drop? I don't know, but it can survive a drop of three feet onto gravel with one in the chamber, hammer back. How do I know this? Fell out of my vehicle. That's probably the farthest it will ever fall. Didn't even scratch the finish.
Does the lack of a safety (that's what I consider it, anyway) on the GLOCK mean faster shooting times in terms of reaction? Doubt it. If you incorporate safety disengagement in your draw, you pretty much end up with the same times regardless: it isn't just "pull, point, shoot." You need to aim to hit your target. During the time you're bringing the pistol up, Mr. Safety can be given flick into the "off" position.
I've never found the GLOCK to be astounding in any aspect whatsoever. At least not anymore than any other firearms I've handled in my lifetime. The fact they lack a useful safety also makes them the Martin Lawrence of my firearms preferences: the Devil.
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