Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. IV) The Proper Un

[The ACF]

That's a ridiculous amount of different parts and ammunition. Your logistics will be godawful.

They are,we used to be sitting on a massive stock pile of parts and resources down here in our bunker...at least we did until part of it flooded and we used up most of the supply's during the 200+ years of sitting down there...

Seems like a list straight out of call of duty really, and I am a COD fan so it is funny that it is easy to see where this came from, even the UNSC didn't need so many weapons, three different assault rifles with in the time frames and so forth but no army really needs so many weapons really. And in my opinion, for example the XM25 over weights the needs of the other two.

More than half those guns aren't in lolofduty and were not an army,were a corp- actually I have no idea what we are....

[Indeos]

The ACFs main military weapons,

Handguns
- FN Five-seveN
- Colt 6520 10mm Pistol
- Modernized variants of the colt M1911A1
- H&K USP
- Various types of glock
- Beretta M9

Machine pistols
- Beretta 93R
- Glock 18

SMG's/PDW's
- H&K MP7A1
- FN P90TR
- ST Kinetics CPW
- XM8 PDW
- TDI Vector
- H&K SMG-2

Shotguns
- Kel-tec KSG
- Franchi SPAS-12
- SRM 1216 Rotary Shotgun
- Pancor Jackhammer
- H&K CAWS
- Atchisson Assault Shotgun (or AA-12)

Assault Rifles
- Bullpup bushmaster ACR (and the non-bullpup original version)
- H&K G11
- Enfield EM-2 (modernized)
- Steyr AUG
- H&K XM8 (modified to prevent melting)
- FN SCAR-L
- Robinson Armament XCR

Battle /Designated Marksman Rifles
- FN SCAR-H
- M14 (Mostly bullpup)
- Kel-Tec RFB
- FN FAL
- M39 EMR
- Mosin-Nagant (Modernized)

Light Machine Guns
- Steyr AUG HBAR
- M249
- Whatever the LMG variant of the XM8 was called

Grenade Launchers
- Milkor MGL
- H&K M320
- XM25 CDTE

(Note,This is only a list of what weapons we provide ammunition and parts for,our operators are allowed to use whatever they can provide ammunition for...)

Oh my...

That is the perfect reaction. Takei is one of the greatest people ever.

That's a ridiculous amount of different parts and ammunition. Your logistics will be godawful.

They are,we used to be sitting on a massive stock pile of parts and resources down here in our bunker...at least we did until part of it flooded and we used up most of the supply's during the 200+ years of sitting down there...

That...didn't make any sense.

[New Conglomerate]

Best... Garand... ever!!!

[The UEG-Space Command]

That's a ridiculous amount of different parts and ammunition. Your logistics will be godawful.

They are,we used to be sitting on a massive stock pile of parts and resources down here in our bunker...at least we did until part of it flooded and we used up most of the supply's during the 200+ years of sitting down there...

Seems like a list straight out of call of duty really, and I am a COD fan so it is funny that it is easy to see where this came from, even the UNSC didn't need so many weapons, three different assault rifles with in the time frames and so forth but no army really needs so many weapons really. And in my opinion, for example the XM25 over weights the needs of the other two.

More than half those guns aren't in lolofduty and were not an army,were a corp- actually I have no idea what we are....

Actually a lot are, but whatever.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

SpecterDR ripoffs complete.
Shall I do a SpecterHR machine-gun sight as I linked above?

Thinking about adding a conventional red dot, plus a flip-up magnifier sight.

?

[Gridea]

(Note,This is only a list of what weapons we provide ammunition and parts for,our operators are allowed to use whatever they can provide ammunition for...)

Even then, your logistics officers would want to murder you.

Your excuses don't make sense ... is it that hard to standardize?

[Indeos]

SpecterDR ripoffs complete.
Shall I do a SpecterHR machine-gun sight as I linked above?

Thinking about adding a conventional red dot, plus a flip-up magnifier sight.

?

The responses are hell yes!, yes, yes, and yes.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

ACF, even PMC organizations have limited standard issues.

[Gridea]

SpecterDR ripoffs complete.
Shall I do a SpecterHR machine-gun sight as I linked above?

Thinking about adding a conventional red dot, plus a flip-up magnifier sight.

?

I'd give you a million dollars to give me some of those with Helghan type carry handle optics >_>

In all honesty, I'd suggest maybe doing that with like a 1.5x Magnification ... do like the Austrians did.

[New Conglomerate]

ACF, even PMC organizations have limited standard issues.

I'd suggest one 5.56 caliber rifle and one AK-pattern rifle in either 7.62 Combloc or 5.45 Soviet

[Samozaryadnyastan]

SpecterDR sights require 70mm of eye relief, and I think the system is generally too short to accept a full-size carry handle, I'm afraid.
I may look into it however.

[Mosasauria]

What's the maximum range(And by this, I mean the point where the bullet falls to the ground) for the M4?
And also, is the L85 superior to the M4?

[Gridea]

SpecterDR sights require 70mm of eye relief, and I think the system is generally too short to accept a full-size carry handle, I'm afraid.
I may look into it however.

I have seen some 2x optics out there that were only a bit longer than a normal Aimpoint ... Trying to think what those were.

[Indeos]

What's the maximum range(And by this, I mean the point where the bullet falls to the ground) for the M4?
And also, is the L85 superior to the M4?

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

What's the maximum range(And by this, I mean the point where the bullet falls to the ground) for the M4?
And also, is the L85 superior to the M4?

For the second, yes, very much so.

[Mosasauria]

What's the maximum range(And by this, I mean the point where the bullet falls to the ground) for the M4?
And also, is the L85 superior to the M4?

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

The first part was because some guy claimed with "experience" claimed that the M4 could accurately hit targets up to 800 meters away.
As for the second, an M4 fanboy refused to believe that a bullpup AR-18 was better than the M4.

[Gridea]

What's the maximum range(And by this, I mean the point where the bullet falls to the ground) for the M4?
And also, is the L85 superior to the M4?

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

I would think that if we counted the customizablity of the M4 or AR-15 series, we could say that M4/AR is better. I'd want my soldiers to augment their weapons for their own purposes (Just got to let them know that if they augment a certain part that logistics won't help get a new one).

[Indeos]

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

The first part was because some guy claimed with "experience" claimed that the M4 could accurately hit targets up to 800 meters away.
As for the second, an M4 fanboy refused to believe that a bullpup AR-18 was better than the M4.

The effective range is maybe 500m; by 800m you're just hoping to hit. The bullet won't hit the ground quite that fast, though. At least, I doubt it will.
Well, they're wrong and can sleep in a trench.

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

I would think that if we counted the customizablity of the M4 or AR-15 series, we could say that M4/AR is better. I'd want my soldiers to augment their weapons for their own purposes (Just got to let them know that if they augment a certain part that logistics won't help get a new one).

There isn't much useful you can add to an M4 than you can't add to an L85.

[The ACF]

They are,we used to be sitting on a massive stock pile of parts and resources down here in our bunker...at least we did until part of it flooded and we used up most of the supply's during the 200+ years of sitting down there...

That...didn't make any sense.

My apologies.

Basically we we foresaw that a devastating nuclear war would happen sooner than later,and seeing as the United States was already building a series of bunkers we took one in Nevada and filled it with everything we could conceivably need in a post apocalyptic world. When the end finally came on October 23 2077 we shut the door for two hundred years. However everything didn't go as planned and parts of the bunker flooded or caved in a the supplies degraded much faster that though possible. So yes our logistics are godawful.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

That...didn't make any sense.

My apologies.

Basically we we foresaw that a devastating nuclear war would happen sooner than later,and seeing as the United States was already building a series of bunkers we took one in Nevada and filled it with everything we could conceivably need in a post apocalyptic world. When the end finally came on October 23 2077 we shut the door for two hundred years. However everything didn't go as planned and parts of the bunker flooded or caved in a the supplies degraded much faster that though possible. So yes our logistics are godawful.

Why does this sound so familiar....

[Indeos]

That...didn't make any sense.

My apologies.

Basically we we foresaw that a devastating nuclear war would happen sooner than later,and seeing as the United States was already building a series of bunkers we took one in Nevada and filled it with everything we could conceivably need in a post apocalyptic world. When the end finally came on October 23 2077 we shut the door for two hundred years. However everything didn't go as planned and parts of the bunker flooded or caved in a the supplies degraded much faster that though possible. So yes our logistics are godawful.

I assume that means you don't have a formal military, then, in which case the collection of weapons is basically just because it was at-hand.

[New Conglomerate]

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

The first part was because some guy claimed with "experience" claimed that the M4 could accurately hit targets up to 800 meters away.
As for the second, an M4 fanboy refused to believe that a bullpup AR-18 was better than the M4.

Bullpup rifles in general are superior to traditional carbines in terms of ballistics. Provided they are the same caliber.

I would think that if we counted the customizablity of the M4 or AR-15 series, we could say that M4/AR is better.

No amount of customization will fix the problem that it's gas system is prone to overheating even in normal situations and that it needs to be cleaned after every damn firefight.

Seriously, customization shouldn't be an issue unless your military is spec-ops heavy.

[Mosasauria]

The first part was because some guy claimed with "experience" claimed that the M4 could accurately hit targets up to 800 meters away.
As for the second, an M4 fanboy refused to believe that a bullpup AR-18 was better than the M4.

The effective range is maybe 500m; by 800m you're just hoping to hit. The bullet won't hit the ground quite that fast, though. At least, I doubt it will.
Well, they're wrong and can sleep in a trench.

I would think that if we counted the customizablity of the M4 or AR-15 series, we could say that M4/AR is better. I'd want my soldiers to augment their weapons for their own purposes (Just got to let them know that if they augment a certain part that logistics won't help get a new one).

There isn't much useful you can add to an M4 than you can't add to an L85.

I figured this guy was BS'ing me.
The person in question goes by the name of Joshua. He was pretty much being a dick throughout the entire comments section.

[The ACF]

My apologies.

Basically we we foresaw that a devastating nuclear war would happen sooner than later,and seeing as the United States was already building a series of bunkers we took one in Nevada and filled it with everything we could conceivably need in a post apocalyptic world. When the end finally came on October 23 2077 we shut the door for two hundred years. However everything didn't go as planned and parts of the bunker flooded or caved in a the supplies degraded much faster that though possible. So yes our logistics are godawful.

I assume that means you don't have a formal military, then, in which case the collection of weapons is basically just because it was at-hand.

Exactly

[Mosasauria]

For the first question, that will never really be useful and it depends on the angle you fire it.
For the second, yes, very much so.

I would think that if we counted the customizablity of the M4 or AR-15 series, we could say that M4/AR is better. I'd want my soldiers to augment their weapons for their own purposes (Just got to let them know that if they augment a certain part that logistics won't help get a new one).

So... A widespread use SOPMOD kit?
The only way to make an M4 good is to not use STANAGs, lubricate it frequently, and only use one of the newer, better 5.56mm rounds, such as M855A1.