Main Military Weapon of Your Country (Mk. IV) The Proper Un

[Amerikians]

I like the new one. Has a very Garand-ish feel to it, actually. Nice, mate. Nice.

[Itailian Maifias]

I like the new one. Has a very Garand-ish feel to it, actually. Nice, mate. Nice.

Tis what I was going for. I need something to punch through shit since I downgraded calibers on my new AR so my men/women could carry more ammo

[Senestrum]

wat?

12.7 x 42 mm Rb. There is about 21 mm less case length on the Beowulf round and it is much fatter thus the powder is more spread out. Also, the thing already kicks quite bit with that round.

The actual muzzle energy is basically the same, and recoil probably is too.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

What do you guys think of a low-recoil, lightweight 152mm pack gun/mortar/launcher for the airbornes/mountain troops? It would be designed to be similar to a scaled-up, 2B9 Vasilek, and somewhat heavier than a L118 or LG1 (~2000 kg). It would share ammunition with other lightweight 152mm gun/launcher/mortars in use with our forces. It would not be equal in firepower to a traditional 155/152mm howitzer, but instead be similar to a more flexible 105mm gun.

[Chelyabinsk i Zona]

Lol.

I found an old post of someone's roller-delayed blowback assault rifle. Was kind of fail, they have a gas tube on it still. It was modeled after an Kalashnikov type rifle, but then featured a roller-delayed blow-back system that, frankly, doesn't work with gas.

Anyway, I'm thinking of making a roller-delayed blowback assault rifle of my own, something like the old StG 45 the Germans had planned, but with more MG-42 and less 7.92x33 underpowered crap.

I'm thinking 7.42x55 or somewhere in there (less than a 7.62 round, but substantially more than a 5.56) with a roller-delayed blowback system packed into a similar look as the Soviet TKP-517 (a lever-delayed blowback weapon), but obviously more modern, and possible with the capability to be loaded with a belt (the fire rate on full auto is going to be ridiculous, so it could easily stand in for a similar role as the MG-42 and modern day MG-3 have).

Obviously any large round + ridiculous fire rate = shoulder mush and wildly inaccurate shots, so it'll probably have a burst feature, but maybe something more like a 5 round burst for sake of individuality.

But all kidding aside, would a multi-platform weapon distantly based off of the MG-42V (experimental MG-42 using the roller-delayed system instead of roller-locking) be a viable option for a infantry weapon?


Edit: Just remembered the G3 might be a better analogy for what my weapon would be like than the MG-42V. Though, the G3 doesn't have the same ridiculous fire rate. Hmm.

[Indeos]

The above post about odd weapon designs made me realize a question I had planned on asking. Is it possible to make a belt-fed lever action rifle?

[Chelyabinsk i Zona]

The above post about odd weapon designs made me realize a question I had planned on asking. Is it possible to make a belt-fed lever action rifle?

Lever action like lever delayed or lever action like the loading system?

Lever action as a loading system, I doubt it would, though it could be possible. I don't know why that'd be beneficial though, lever-actions don't have the fire rate, being a manually operated load-system, to necessitate justify a belt...

[Itailian Maifias]

The above post about odd weapon designs made me realize a question I had planned on asking. Is it possible to make a belt-fed lever action rifle?

Possible? Yes
Practical? No

[Old Beringia]

Besides the above, I don't think it would be practical.

[Amerikians]

Tubular or internal magazines are the way to go with Lever-Action weapons, belt-fed is ridiculously unpractical.

[Indeos]

Tubular or internal magazines are the way to go with Lever-Action weapons, belt-fed is ridiculously unpractical.

Practicality is for silly people. I was thinking of luzly ideas and had the thought of combining the AR-10 backpack with a lever-action rifle to make some sort of hilarious but terrible gun. (And to get around the fact that ICly I can't really use assault rifles and those revolver rifles kinda need squad support.)

[Gawdzendia]

If any of you remember me complaining of my round seeming large next to my Rifle, it's because when I made the base cylinder, it was R (Radius) instead of D (Diameter).

I accidentally a 9.6x80mm Caseless Round.

[Indeos]

If any of you remember me complaining of my round seeming large next to my Rifle, it's because when I made the base cylinder, it was R (Radius) instead of D (Diameter).

I accidentally a 9.6x80mm Caseless Round.

You accidentally awesome.

On the other hand, a weapon I didn't post before. The Anemonian-designed ASP-I. Shown with foregrip/flashlight/compensator attachment because it's issued alongside a revolver paradox gun. Select-fire, chambered in 10mm Auto. I can get the full statblock if anyone is interested, but I doubt anyone wants to see it.



*All art credit goes to Anemos Major, who drew the above pistol.*

[Gawdzendia]

If any of you remember me complaining of my round seeming large next to my Rifle, it's because when I made the base cylinder, it was R (Radius) instead of D (Diameter).

I accidentally a 9.6x80mm Caseless Round.

You accidentally awesome.

On the other hand, a weapon I didn't post before. The Anemonian-designed ASP-I. Shown with foregrip/flashlight/compensator attachment because it's issued alongside a revolver paradox gun. Select-fire, chambered in 10mm Auto. I can get the full statblock if anyone is interested, but I doubt anyone wants to see it.

I like it. Hell, I like most of your lineart.
(Also, hell yeah, 10mm auto)

I might keep this accidental bastard of a round for a HMG, or a DMR.

[Anemos Major]

You accidentally awesome.

On the other hand, a weapon I didn't post before. The Anemonian-designed ASP-I. Shown with foregrip/flashlight/compensator attachment because it's issued alongside a revolver paradox gun. Select-fire, chambered in 10mm Auto. I can get the full statblock if anyone is interested, but I doubt anyone wants to see it.

I like it. Hell, I like most of your lineart.
(Also, hell yeah, 10mm auto)

I might keep this accidental bastard of a round for a HMG, or a DMR.

:-/

That's MY LINEART *butthurt*

I don't normally get pissy, but AGH that grip took me ages.

[Indeos]

You accidentally awesome.

On the other hand, a weapon I didn't post before. The Anemonian-designed ASP-I. Shown with foregrip/flashlight/compensator attachment because it's issued alongside a revolver paradox gun. Select-fire, chambered in 10mm Auto. I can get the full statblock if anyone is interested, but I doubt anyone wants to see it.

(Image)

I like it. Hell, I like most of your lineart.
(Also, hell yeah, 10mm auto)

I might keep this accidental bastard of a round for a HMG, or a DMR.

Anemos' lineart, not mine. I can't lineart anything and if I forgot to credit him I'm editing it in now.

[Bafuria]

So I'm working on this 5.56mm bullpup.

It's gas operated, with a short stroke piston and a rotating bolt. It has a 610 mm barrel to get as much out of the 5.56 as practically possible (Yes it fires the .22 NATO DWI). OAL is ~890 mm.
It uses a 20 round plastic magazine to make the weapon less awkward to use when lying down. The charging handle (under the carrying handle) can be removed with a screwdriver and attached on the other side for left handed shooters. The flash hider is missing because of the 900 pixel limit.

What I haven't decided is whether to use a progressive trigger or a fire selector.

Any advice?

[Indeos]

I like it. Hell, I like most of your lineart.
(Also, hell yeah, 10mm auto)

I might keep this accidental bastard of a round for a HMG, or a DMR.

:-/

That's MY LINEART *butthurt*

I don't normally get pissy, but AGH that grip took me ages.

I fixed it so it was more clear. I did say Anemonian-designed in the first place, though, and I would never try to take credit for anything you or anybody else drew.

@Baf: Insert obligatory complaint about .22 NATO and suggestion of better intermediate here. Besides that, use a progressive trigger for originality.

[Anemos Major]

Anemos' lineart, not mine. I can't lineart anything and if I forgot to credit him I'm editing it in now.

And now's the bit where I feel like an asshat.

It did take me ages, though, mainly because of my own incompetence.

(I know you wouldn't try and take credit from me, Indeos; I know you too well for that sort of baseless accusation. But the ASP makes me angry because it reminds me that I haven't coloured it yet, and that I have to stop putting it off all the time)

[Indeos]

Anemos' lineart, not mine. I can't lineart anything and if I forgot to credit him I'm editing it in now.

And now's the bit where I feel like an asshat.

It did take me ages, though, mainly because of my own incompetence.

(I know you wouldn't try and take credit from me, Indeos; I know you too well for that sort of baseless accusation. But the ASP makes me angry because it reminds me that I haven't coloured it yet, and that I have to stop putting it off all the time)

Don't worry about it. I kinda like not seeing it colored because I can image an officer's version covered in ivory and gold. If it's alright with you, I might actually mess around with it in paint.net to see what I can do. But I won't even open it in a modification program without your consent, and I certainly won't post the results if you don't want me to.

[Gawdzendia]

:-/

That's MY LINEART *butthurt*

I don't normally get pissy, but AGH that grip took me ages.

I fixed it so it was more clear. I did say Anemonian-designed in the first place, though, and I would never try to take credit for anything you or anybody else drew.

My mistake, didn't read clearly enough. I love your lineart Anemos.
Damnit I look like a douche again.

So two new caseless rounds as follows:

4.8x20 mm & 9.6x40mm, since I can't measure length as well.

Here's a comparison between the two rounds.

[Anemos Major]

Don't worry about it. I kinda like not seeing it colored because I can image an officer's version covered in ivory and gold. If it's alright with you, I might actually mess around with it in paint.net to see what I can do. But I won't even open it in a modification program without your consent, and I certainly won't post the results if you don't want me to.

Eh... I'm uncomfortable with that kind of thing, but what the hell. I made this lineart for you. Muck about with it as you like.

I'd have coloured it earlier, but I'm trying to understand concepts of shading and experimenting before moving onto that.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Working on a PT anti-tank rifle. Should I go light and weak or heavy and strong? With the former I might be able to drop the weight to 10kg and make it a single man weapon that could possibly score mobility kills, the latter I am hoping to outright penetrate the armour of most tanks at least on the sides or back, but will probably make it a 2 or 3 man weapon and weigh in at 50kg or more.

[Indeos]

Don't worry about it. I kinda like not seeing it colored because I can image an officer's version covered in ivory and gold. If it's alright with you, I might actually mess around with it in paint.net to see what I can do. But I won't even open it in a modification program without your consent, and I certainly won't post the results if you don't want me to.

Eh... I'm uncomfortable with that kind of thing, but what the hell. I made this lineart for you. Muck about with it as you like.

I'd have coloured it earlier, but I'm trying to understand concepts of shading and experimenting before moving onto that.

That's why I asked. I'm probably not going to post or even save any of my work, so it's just a matter of "hey, a gun outline I can color without fucking up all the lines. lets have some fun" rather than actually accomplishing anything. I promise not to mutilate your lineart, though. (After a few attempts at it, I gave up anyhow because I had no luck making any colors look right on the majority of the gun.)

@ASE: Light and weak. Everything on NS is lulzy huge and there's no love for mobility kills.

[Anemos Major]

(Image)

So I'm working on this 5.56mm bullpup.

It's gas operated, with a short stroke piston and a rotating bolt. It has a 610 mm barrel to get as much out of the 5.56 as practically possible (Yes it fires the .22 NATO DWI). OAL is ~890 mm.
It uses a 20 round plastic magazine to make the weapon less awkward to use when lying down. The charging handle (under the carrying handle) can be removed with a screwdriver and attached on the other side for left handed shooters. The flash hider is missing because of the 900 pixel limit.

What I haven't decided is whether to use a progressive trigger or a fire selector.

Any advice?

Fire selector, most likely. I don't trust the effectiveness of progressive triggers in high intensity combat.