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Postby Sevvania » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:30 am

Dimoniquid wrote:On that lst rifle, why's the rear sight over the bolt? I mean, if it goes over it, wouldn't it be easy to break off?


The last one is a ceremonial model, and the bolt doesn't come back far enough for it to be in the way.

Edit: Shortened the barrel on the standard model. I think I like it better this way...
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Postby Solyhniya » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:44 am

Sevvania wrote:
Sevvania wrote:(Image)
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Sevvanian Service Rifle - Standard Model


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Sevvanian Service Rifle - Ceremonial Model

Thoughts? Questions? I even remembered the trigger this time.... :meh:


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Nicest PMG old-style rifles I've ever seen.
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Postby Sevvania » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:46 am

Solyhniya wrote:Nicest PMG old-style rifles I've ever seen.


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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:48 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:MS Paint Vista Home Edition and a lot of patience.
I can't stress enough how much patience is required.

I started out on PMG, and almost all my weapons were a pixel-for-pixel trace in Paint of my PMG efforts, and then they just get edited from there.
That shotgun started life as this.
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Change is good.
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Barrel looks bland give it a threaded barrel or muzzel brake or something.
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Postby Shinjitai » Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:53 am

The R13 with a D3 bazooka range attached. When both launched, if it hits you in your head, or chest, you will most likely suffer burns or a fractured skull or fractured ribs, if it hits in those places. It also will wound you badly if it hits u in other places. The bazooka will burn you. We also have komodo dragons venom :D. Edit: these weapons will only be used in wars, which is unlikely for our country.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:35 pm

Tried my hand at an exploded diagram. It's pretty basic but I can't be bothered taking it apart more.
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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:44 pm

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This is my nations main weapon the M4 Bull it has the accuracy of a sniper rifle and the shortness of a regular m4 the only fault to it is that it is very hard to use and clean so you would need to be trained to use said firearm, But it is all in good profit(or something else forgot). It uses the regular 5.56 round and very professional on the job it is used for and that stealth and versatility.
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Postby Dimoniquid » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:02 pm

Graditora wrote:(Image)
This is my nations main weapon the M4 Bull it has the accuracy of a sniper rifle and the shortness of a regular m4 the only fault to it is that it is very hard to use and clean so you would need to be trained to use said firearm, But it is all in good profit(or something else forgot). It uses the regular 5.56 round and very professional on the job it is used for and that stealth and versatility.

...

Oh dear God.

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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:04 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:
Graditora wrote:(Image)
This is my nations main weapon the M4 Bull it has the accuracy of a sniper rifle and the shortness of a regular m4 the only fault to it is that it is very hard to use and clean so you would need to be trained to use said firearm, But it is all in good profit(or something else forgot). It uses the regular 5.56 round and very professional on the job it is used for and that stealth and versatility.

...

Oh dear God.

Yep thats the power of Bullpup weapons! :lol:
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Postby Indeos » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:05 pm

Graditora wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:...

Oh dear God.

Yep thats the power of Bullpup weapons! :lol:


That's not why he said that.
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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:07 pm

Then why then?! I want to know! :p
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:09 pm

Graditora wrote:Then why then?! I want to know! :p

It is hideous and its ergonomics are terrible.
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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:11 pm

Then you try to make a Bullpup design out of M16 parts on pimp my gun! GOOD LUCK! :lol2:
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Romberg wrote:You do not mess with the nation with a scorpion on its flag.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:12 pm

Graditora wrote:Then you try to make a Bullpup design out of M16 parts on pimp my gun! GOOD LUCK! :lol2:

I have, they weren't that bad. Also, the moral is not to use PMG, do lineart.
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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:15 pm

The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
Graditora wrote:Then you try to make a Bullpup design out of M16 parts on pimp my gun! GOOD LUCK! :lol2:

I have, they weren't that bad. Also, the moral is not to use PMG, do lineart.

Lineart?
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Bafuria wrote:If I was allowed to carry I would carry a pistol with big, loud muzzle blast, something that says "I JUST SHOT YOU D:<".

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Romberg wrote:You do not mess with the nation with a scorpion on its flag.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:19 pm

Graditora wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I have, they weren't that bad. Also, the moral is not to use PMG, do lineart.

Lineart?

Go into MS paint or a similar program, and make a gun from scratch, a lot of the guns you see in this thread are lineart, made in paint, and shaded with a slightly more advanced program like Gimp.
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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:20 pm

Ya i don't have that kind of skill to do that. lol I've tried before.
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Romberg wrote:You do not mess with the nation with a scorpion on its flag.

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Postby Fischermann » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:22 pm

Graditora wrote:Ya i don't have that kind of skill to do that. lol I've tried before.


Practice makes perfect.
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:47 pm

Or you can just leave the kid alone and let him use what he wants to.

Edit: Instead of judging him for using PMG and automatically trying to get him to use lineart you should be helping him by telling him what he can do on PMG to improve it and then also mention that he has the option to use lineart
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Postby Senestrum » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:48 pm

Graditora wrote:Then you try to make a Bullpup design out of M16 parts on pimp my gun! GOOD LUCK! :lol2:


You can't.

The buffer tube is there for a reason.
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Postby Munathanura » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:53 pm

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Samozaryadnyastan wrote:What would you suggest as better than an L85A2?


An AUG.


Just so long as you don't use the Australian version. The AuSteyr is probably the most inaccurate service rifle (it shoots 60mm groupings at 50 metres) since the Russians started implementing some sort of quality control. And Thales calls it accurate.

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Postby Fischermann » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:55 pm

Itailian Maifias wrote:Or you can just leave the kid alone and let him use what he wants to.

Edit: Instead of judging him for using PMG and automatically trying to get him to use lineart you should be helping him by telling him what he can do on PMG to improve it and then also mention that he has the option to use lineart


He can use shapes.

Though PMG is hated here. I switched to lineart because of that.
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Postby Indeos » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:57 pm

Itailian Maifias wrote:Or you can just leave the kid alone and let him use what he wants to.

Edit: Instead of judging him for using PMG and automatically trying to get him to use lineart you should be helping him by telling him what he can do on PMG to improve it and then also mention that he has the option to use lineart


The effort it takes to make quality PMG isn't worth it because it takes about the same amount of effort to make decent lineart.
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Postby Graditora » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:58 pm

Ya, let me use want i want, and anyway you should be telling me how to improve.
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Bafuria wrote:If I was allowed to carry I would carry a pistol with big, loud muzzle blast, something that says "I JUST SHOT YOU D:<".

Ea90 wrote:Someone knows what they want.

Romberg wrote:You do not mess with the nation with a scorpion on its flag.

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Postby Itailian Maifias » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:00 pm

Indeos wrote:
Itailian Maifias wrote:Or you can just leave the kid alone and let him use what he wants to.

Edit: Instead of judging him for using PMG and automatically trying to get him to use lineart you should be helping him by telling him what he can do on PMG to improve it and then also mention that he has the option to use lineart


The effort it takes to make quality PMG isn't worth it because it takes about the same amount of effort to make decent lineart.

And as I've been saying for almost a year now...

Not everyone can do lineart. Yes, practice can make perfect but it doesn't always. Me for example who has been trying to lineart for the past seven months and it is still pure shit. So, if the kid doesn't feel like linearting and wants to stick to PMG, the least you people can do as you are all nice and honest folk is to help him, despite your difference on what he should be using to make his weapons
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