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Hate crime legislation in your nation

Postby Terra Mariana » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:59 pm

What kind of legislation (if any) does your nation have concerning hate crimes?

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The people of Terra Mariana do not recognize the concept of hate crime itself. They believe hate is an emotion, which in itself cannot cause any harm, and so cannot serve as an aggravating circumstance in conviction. Marians believe that only the actions that have caused harm can be punished, not emotions leading to those actions.

Since every able-bodied adult is expected to be able to defend oneself both verbally and physically, government doesn't deem necessary to intervene in personal quarrels between citizens, as long as they don't end in murder or debilitating injury.

Lastly, there is no need for a hate crime legislation, since Terra Mariana has no minorities to suffer from hate crimes (and even if there were, Marians would most likely be more than content with abusing them). Outsiders and their ideologies are held in universal contempt, and not permitted to settle in Terra Mariana outside compounds specially reserved for foreigners residing for business and diplomatic affairs. Marians defend this practice vigorously by stating that limiting interaction between different peoples to purely diplomatic and mercantile affairs mutually excludes the very possibility of discrimination or ethnic/racial hatred.

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Postby Neraan » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:01 pm

Hate crime legislation exists insofar as a general crime for repeated harassment, "bullying", etc. that is done over time. Hate crime does not exist insofar as restricting free speech.

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Postby Saurisisia » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:03 pm

None. Any Hate Crime Legislation Bill would be brutally mocked by members of the Senate, the government, as well as the common people, as that sort of thing is considered an infringement on free speech.

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Postby Eeri » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:03 pm

We do not have any hate crime legislation. Cynics say it's because the religious and racial majority don't want to protect minorities but that isn't true. Crime is crime whether it's directed at someone who is Gay, Straight, White, Black or Asian and the crime should be treated with equal gravity regardless of whatever the person practices or whatever their race is.

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Postby Wazkyraque » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:05 pm

If it breaks any other law, then yes they will be punished
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Postby The BranRiech » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:27 pm

as with all other crimes = execution
hate crimes are frowned upon in the Branriech as the government believes that everyone is equal

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Postby Helghast empire » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:40 pm

anti - hate crime is embedded into our society so we have many laws to enforce it

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Postby Parhe » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:41 pm

You already said hate CRIMES, so I'm saying yes, hate crimes are crimes, but I assume you mean what qualifies. Any type of hate speeches, comments(including message boards and websites), or types of posters and news ads(or anything in the news, and any type of ad) towards the minorities(for race) are okay, but are illegal towards the Korean, Russians or Manchus majority, and also to Protestant or Orthodox Christians(Legal when towards Catholics) and Muslims. Also legal to other religions. Anything else, such as vandalism, is illegal towards anyone.
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Postby Central Slavia » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:48 pm

None , though much of what is referenced as hate crime fits under either "inciting public unrest", and similar crimes.
That said , inciting hatred or outrage against public officials or against the citizens of allied nations (such as Solyhnia, URS or Chernobyl-Pripyat) are also criminal acts.
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Postby Green something » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:00 pm

Just because the wrongdoer didn't like his victim for whatever reasons does not make the crime more serious. Everybody has a basic right to whatever strange, offensive and false opinions and to say stupid things in loud voice is basic human right. Public discussion is the only way to bring up valid reasoning against stupid opinions. Silencing wrong opinions is nothing less than censorship.

Still, a murder is still a murder and a bettery is still just a battery no matter how deeply you hate or dislike the victim. Doing crimes against someone is always illegal and just because you did your crime against someone who is the same color or has the same opinions as you does not make your crime less serious.

No hate crime. Everyone's life, rights, health and property are equally important.
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Postby Maraque » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:01 pm

While the motivation behind every crime is taken into account during trial, motivation for crimes isn't codified into the laws of our nation. An assault on a person of a particular ethnicity, for example, isn't charged as a hate crime, it is charged as assault - as it is. The fact that the attack was motivated by the perpetrators prejudice against said individuals ethnic origin will be taken into account as to determine the best course of action in the particular case.

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Postby KludgeMUSH » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:33 pm

The concept of "hate crimes" baffles us, mostly because we are uncertain why there would be someone you DON'T hate.

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Postby Arkinesia » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:50 pm

The Confederate States are not so barbaric as to make speech of any kind a crime.

However, unlike certain other states, speech is well-defined so that when someone commits a terror attack in the name of hatred, it is not protected.
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Postby BrightonBurg » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:54 pm

None,in Brightonburg,crime is crime,you break a law,you are punished.
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Postby Aurora-Nova » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:56 pm

Neraan wrote:Hate crime legislation exists insofar as a general crime for repeated harassment, "bullying", etc. that is done over time. Hate crime does not exist insofar as restricting free speech.

Pretty much this. We have no hate crime legislation; if you commit a crime against someone because they are [insert identifiable group here], it's a crime like any other, and there's not going to be harsher sentences because it was against a member of that identifiable group. While we have numerous laws curtailing free speech, many of them are directed at promoting public harmony and state security, rather than the protection of any particular group or groups.
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Postby Galla- » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:00 pm

Galla recognises hate crime insofar as crimes against property or individuals motivated by prejudice against religion, ethnicity, political beliefs, or sexual orientation. Hate speech is not illegal in Galla, because that restricts freedom of speech. You're free to go to your KKK and Volksfront rallies without fear of retribution, and likewise free to speak at the rallies with a similar lack of fear.

In practice, hate crime is just another charge to be added to list the charges of offenders in an attempt to pin them with more prison time.
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Postby Naurobia » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:00 pm

Hate crime does NOT exist on a federal level in naurobia and out of our 14 states, 2 territories, and one capital district only the state of North Hampton has hate crime laws however there is increasing opposition to them and they would likely be repealed soon.
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Postby Stolitland » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:32 pm

In Stolitland, all "hate crimes" are prosecuted as normal offenses. An aggravated battery or attempted murder charge is no less serious if it was motivated by a jilted lover than if it was motivated by racial beliefs.

There is no such thing as "hate speech" in Stolitland.

A lack of remorse, which can be shown by having the crime motivated by a particular philosophy which has not been changed, may be taken into account come sentencing time.
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Postby Maroza » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:35 pm

We treat it as any other crime. You break the law you get charged. Crime is very very small in the country, we are always watching.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:48 pm

Hate crimes as other states would see it are aggravating circumstances.

For example:

If attempted homicide was committed under ordinary circumstances, the penalty is two degrees lower than that for homicide. If that same crime was committed because the offender was motivated by prejudice against ethnicity, the penalty would be that for regular frustrated homicide.
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Postby Camerania » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:04 pm

Hate crimes in the commonwealth are strictly forbidden. We have a zero-tolerance policy. According to the Coexistence Act of 2010, subsection C paragraph 2, "...A hate crime, defined as any offense against a person based off of race, religion, sexua orientation, or political opinionation, is illegal and punishable by 1200 hours community service and 2 years probation, a second offense is subject to up to 3000 hours community service and 6 years probation, after the second offense the consequence will be no less than 5000 hours community service and 9 years probation and no more than 10000 hours community service and 15 years probation." As you can see, Such things are NOT acceptable. To help prevent such a problem, we have very comprehensive education programs early in childhood.

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Postby Rusikstan » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:25 pm

There is no such classification as "hate crime" all crimes are equally criminal if violating a law. The closest one could get to a hate crime is the crime of griefing, or consistantly, repeated and/or continually causing grief to other citizens. Grief is defined intentionally causing harm either mentally or physically to an individual and/or group of individuals. Harm being defined as damage, either or mental or physical, done to the individual or group of individuals. Damage is defined by the trial-attending physician/psychiatrist along with the judge. Greifing charges are rare as many charges can overlap into the griefing definition and are chosen instead of a charge of griefing.

Charges of griefing are handled by the Department of Standards & Equality (DSE) a sub-divison of the Federal Security Directorate (FSD), which has delegated the duty to the Rusich National Police (RNP).
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:33 pm

Hate crime legislation? Seriously? No, we do not have thought police in our nation.
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Postby Zellatia » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:37 pm

punishment by degree of the crime
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Postby ArghNeedAName » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:18 am

It's unconstitutional to punish someone for what they say. They can be punished for Beahviour that Incites Disruption of the Peace if they're causing something to happeb.
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